Strike vote

[a2btrail]

Just in Canada's Minister of Labour, Steven MacKinnon has directed the CIRB to order CN and CPKC resumption or work activities, binding Arbitration and extending the collective agreement. We do not live in a democratic country. Sadly I am convinced the same will happen with AC Pilots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Z_xoW2D2o

[rookiepilot]

Just in Canada's Minister of Labour, Steven MacKinnon has directed the CIRB to order CN and CPKC resumption or work activities, binding Arbitration and extending the collective agreement. We do not live in a democratic country. Sadly I am convinced the same will happen with AC Pilots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Z_xoW2D2o

LOL.

Thought this wasn’t supposed to happen with Sellout Singh having your backs.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cn-rai ... -1.7301419

[CaptDukeNukem]

Just in Canada's Minister of Labour, Steven MacKinnon has directed the CIRB to order CN and CPKC resumption or work activities, binding Arbitration and extending the collective agreement. We do not live in a democratic country. Sadly I am convinced the same will happen with AC Pilots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Z_xoW2D2o

Ya I knew some form of government intervention was coming. They say they won’t, but then they realize shit hittin the fan. And then they shit on everyone who just wants a livable wage.

I shall be sending a strongly worded email to my MP. For the little good that it will do.

[TCAS II]

Government more concerned with money and the economy than over rail workers safety concerns. MacKinnon has directed the board to extend the current collective agreement until a new agreement signed.

Does that mean strike is forbidden?

[cjp]

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6488171

Singh seems to be standing firm as of today a short while ago, speaking to reporters on the teamsters picket line

Wouldn’t trust that guy for a second. Mr Rolex.

Don’t necessarily disagree with you on this BUT for now seems to be holding the line..

It's a fine line, with both ops out of business, it's putting a massive squeeze on transportation and GDP. Seeing as there are no other rail options in Canada, this is the one time they might break the line if this drags out. Had it been one or the other, it would have been OK.

[a2btrail]

I hope AC pilots aren't in the same position come Sept 18th....

Lets not forget.... about this video...from 12 years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hmKPBPI5Cg

[rookiepilot]

Wouldn’t trust that guy for a second. Mr Rolex.

Don’t necessarily disagree with you on this BUT for now seems to be holding the line..

It's a fine line, with both ops out of business, it's putting a massive squeeze on transportation and GDP. Seeing as there are no other rail options in Canada, this is the one time they might break the line if this drags out. Had it been one or the other, it would have been OK.

So what? I hope the Teamsters tell them to stick it, like the WJ AME’s did. Burn it down.

It’s interesting to me, as an aside, the government quickly is quasi ordering the teamsters back to work, private sector, but showers cash and plays nothing but nice with public employees, vastly overpaid by comparison to railway workers, and while they are raving antisemites to boot. (Cupe leadership)

Singh rolled over.

Told you. Wonder how much it took. $$$$$

https://x.com/theJagmeetSingh/status/18 ... 3877889250

[TCAS II]

I hope AC pilots aren't in the same position come Sept 18th....

Lets not forget.... about this video...from 12 years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hmKPBPI5Cg

Government used excuse of “health and safety”. Well, COVID sure proved that it can’t be an excuse.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Wouldn’t trust that guy for a second. Mr Rolex.

Don’t necessarily disagree with you on this BUT for now seems to be holding the line..

It's a fine line, with both ops out of business, it's putting a massive squeeze on transportation and GDP. Seeing as there are no other rail options in Canada, this is the one time they might break the line if this drags out. Had it been one or the other, it would have been OK.

Okay. So if airline contracts align like the stars once every 467 years, it’s okay to force them to arbitration? The companies and the unions knew this ages ago, and so did the government.

I’m just saying, provincial governments and now the feds are playing with fire by forcing back to work legislation and/or binding arbitration. This rail strike is 16 hours old. There has been SOME economic repercussions but this has been a prompt response to strikes from the liberals. True colours are being shown here.

98% strike vote from 98% of members…
Watch: feds definitely gonna intervene

[rookiepilot]

Don’t necessarily disagree with you on this BUT for now seems to be holding the line..

It's a fine line, with both ops out of business, it's putting a massive squeeze on transportation and GDP. Seeing as there are no other rail options in Canada, this is the one time they might break the line if this drags out. Had it been one or the other, it would have been OK.

Okay. So if airline contracts align like the stars once every 467 years, it’s okay to force them to arbitration? The companies and the unions knew this ages ago, and so did the government.

I’m just saying, provincial governments and now the feds are playing with fire by forcing back to work legislation and/or binding arbitration. This rail strike is 16 hours old. There has been SOME economic repercussions but this has been a prompt response to strikes from the liberals. True colours are being shown here.

98% strike vote from 98% of members…
Watch: feds definitely gonna intervene

Yup. You guys are cooked. Been trying to tell you.

Old boys club.

Montreal based CP told Quebec politicians what to do.

Montreal based AC…………

You fools seriously think this is a democracy?

Its five or ten families.

Same as Central America.

WJ — Calgary based. They DGAF!

[CaptDukeNukem]

It's a fine line, with both ops out of business, it's putting a massive squeeze on transportation and GDP. Seeing as there are no other rail options in Canada, this is the one time they might break the line if this drags out. Had it been one or the other, it would have been OK.

Okay. So if airline contracts align like the stars once every 467 years, it’s okay to force them to arbitration? The companies and the unions knew this ages ago, and so did the government.

I’m just saying, provincial governments and now the feds are playing with fire by forcing back to work legislation and/or binding arbitration. This rail strike is 16 hours old. There has been SOME economic repercussions but this has been a prompt response to strikes from the liberals. True colours are being shown here.

98% strike vote from 98% of members…
Watch: feds definitely gonna intervene

Yup. You guys are cooked. Been trying to tell you.

Old boys club.

Montreal based CP told Quebec politicians what to do.

Montreal based AC…………

You fools seriously think this is a democracy?

Its five or ten families.

Same as Central America.

WJ — Calgary based. They DGAF!

Im not aligning myself with you at all. Central America? What? You’re not even part of the discussion.

[digits_]

Just in Canada's Minister of Labour, Steven MacKinnon has directed the CIRB to order CN and CPKC resumption or work activities, binding Arbitration and extending the collective agreement. We do not live in a democratic country. Sadly I am convinced the same will happen with AC Pilots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Z_xoW2D2o

Too bad they can't take those trains to parliament hill. Ridiculous. Disgusting.

But remember, legislation won't drive those trains. Binding arbitration doesn't make those planes fly!

Good luck all!

[a2btrail]

Just in Canada's Minister of Labour, Steven MacKinnon has directed the CIRB to order CN and CPKC resumption or work activities, binding Arbitration and extending the collective agreement. We do not live in a democratic country. Sadly I am convinced the same will happen with AC Pilots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Z_xoW2D2o

Too bad they can't take those trains to parliament hill. Ridiculous. Disgusting.

But remember, legislation won't drive those trains. Binding arbitration doesn't make those planes fly!

Good luck all!

I hope I am wrong. I am confused why the board at AC seems to not see there can be a world where if AC steps up and invest in their various working groups they could see great ROI and productivity... routing for the AC group to secure a contract regardless.

[a2btrail]

Just in Canada's Minister of Labour, Steven MacKinnon has directed the CIRB to order CN and CPKC resumption or work activities, binding Arbitration and extending the collective agreement. We do not live in a democratic country. Sadly I am convinced the same will happen with AC Pilots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Z_xoW2D2o

Too bad they can't take those trains to parliament hill. Ridiculous. Disgusting.

But remember, legislation won't drive those trains. Binding arbitration doesn't make those planes fly!

Good luck all!

I hope I am wrong. I am confused why the board at AC seems to not see there can be a world where if AC steps up and invest in their various working groups they could see great ROI and productivity... routing for the AC group to secure a contract regardless.

[altiplano]

This is the Lieberals caving to the corporations. They couldn't even last 1 day. Cowards.

I can't believe that they say that they support collecting bargaining and then say that they are suspending it in the same sentence. The hypocrisy is so fuckin rank.

Injunction will be inbound.

I wouldn't be surprised if the CIRB kicks it back at the Minister anyway.

Go get a law passed in Parliament, invoke the notwithstanding clause if you want to suspend the charter and SCOC precedence.

[Daniel Cooper]

Are we even sure this isn't journalists jumping the gun again? They said WestJet mechanics were under binding arbitration too when they weren't.

[rookiepilot]

This is the Lieberals caving to the corporations. They couldn't even last 1 day. Cowards.

I can't believe that they say that they support collecting bargaining and then say that they are suspending it in the same sentence. The hypocrisy is so fuckin rank.

Injunction will be inbound.

I wouldn't be surprised if the CIRB kicks it back at the Minister anyway.

Go get a law passed in Parliament, invoke the notwithstanding clause if you want to suspend the charter and SCOC precedence.

That would require a second bag of cash to Mr Rolex.

[rookiepilot]

Got a question for you guys?

I just read AC Fa’s belong to CUPE. Didn’t know that.

Which means they support and are under the leadership of one of the most vile human beings I can think of in Canada — Fred Hahn.

Means they sign their names to every word out of his filthy Jew hating mouth.

Seriously?

Not a good look fellas.

[a2btrail]

Are we even sure this isn't journalists jumping the gun again? They said WestJet mechanics were under binding arbitration too when they weren't.

Objectively, you're right we could be. I guess we will find out what the CiRB decides over the next day or so.

[PostmasterGeneral]

Got a question for you guys?

I just read AC Fa’s belong to CUPE. Didn’t know that.

Which means they support and are under the leadership of one of the most vile human beings I can think of in Canada — Fred Hahn.

Means they sign their names to every word out of his filthy Jew hating mouth.

Seriously?

Not a good look fellas.

Being part of a union does not mean you “support” the views of some random guy in charge of your union.

Connect the dots must have been impossible for you as a kid. Quoted for posterity.

[rookiepilot]

Got a question for you guys?

I just read AC Fa’s belong to CUPE. Didn’t know that.

Which means they support and are under the leadership of one of the most vile human beings I can think of in Canada — Fred Hahn.

Means they sign their names to every word out of his filthy Jew hating mouth.

Seriously?

Not a good look fellas.

Being part of a union does not mean you “support” the views of some random guy in charge of your union.

Connect the dots must have been impossible for you as a kid.

I say it does, and so will millions of other people. Read twitter today. I hope CUPE gets sued up the ass (they are already, by a bunch of their own members)

One is Either on the good side or stands with the terrorists, as Bush once said. Black or white.

[Daniel Cooper]

I guess we will find out what the CiRB decides over the next day or so.

People like Trudeau tend to be blame shifters. Maybe he already knows the CIRB will say no and he only wants to not be the one responsible.

[Old fella]

Got a question for you guys?

I just read AC Fa’s belong to CUPE. Didn’t know that.

Which means they support and are under the leadership of one of the most vile human beings I can think of in Canada — Fred Hahn.

Means they sign their names to every word out of his filthy Jew hating mouth.

Seriously?

Not a good look fellas.

Careful old sock, the Mod probably got his/her fingers close to the “ locked” function if this thread strays into unpredictability.

[Arnie Pye]

I have emailed my MP, the minister of labour and the minister of employment. Did up a second letter for the Conservative shadow cabinet. Also emailed the NDP and told them that I can't support a party who props up a government willing to trample on worker rights.

Everyone here should do the same. When Air Canada Pilots win, everyone wins. When they get legislated back to work we all lose.

Good luck everyone. You have our support.

[TCAS II]

Lisa Raitt, who served as labour minister in the government of former prime minister Stephen Harper, said referring the dispute to the CIRB won't instantly end the work stoppage. She said the companies and the union first have to agree to binding arbitration.

"You can try to get the parties to agree to binding arbitration. Maybe you can write to the CIRB and ask them to impose binding arbitration… but there's no way a minister can write a letter and say that everyone goes back to work and I'm sending you to binding arbitration," she said.

"If you find a lawyer who can tell you that it's possible [for the minister to order the parties into arbitration], then I wish I had their advice 15 years ago. But as far as I'm concerned, you aren't able to do that."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/what-c ... -1.7302215