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Re: Which airline offers the least amount of flying?

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Cargojet. 15 days a month total. Maybe 7-8 operating flights. 2-3 day layovers. 20-30 hrs a month flying if you don’t grab OT.
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C-GGGQ wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:59 am Cargojet. 15 days a month total. Maybe 7-8 operating flights. 2-3 day layovers. 20-30 hrs a month flying if you don’t grab OT.
First useful answer lol. Jazz FO's fly very very little too, and Porter YTZ FO's fly only a bit more than that.
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Encore flies very little too, 8 days a month, 250hrs/year
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Me262 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:13 am Encore flies very little too, 8 days a month, 250hrs/year
Ha. That’s a broad generalization to make Me262.

Only 8 days a month you say? That sounds like a cakewalk and a half!

How’s that CPL coming along? :)

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C-GGGQ wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:59 am Cargojet. 15 days a month total. Maybe 7-8 operating flights. 2-3 day layovers. 20-30 hrs a month flying if you don’t grab OT.
wrong side of the clock when you do though!
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newlygrounded wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:53 am
C-GGGQ wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:59 am Cargojet. 15 days a month total. Maybe 7-8 operating flights. 2-3 day layovers. 20-30 hrs a month flying if you don’t grab OT.
wrong side of the clock when you do though!
Only sometimes. There are a few all nights like the yhm-yvr turn the cvg-gdl turn and the mia- bog turn. Most of the time its one leg. Leave 4 am or leave like 10 pm. End 3-5 hours later.
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Re: Which airline offers the least amount of flying?

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DanWEC wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:50 pm
Canadaflyer46 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:14 am
DanWEC wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:16 pm Generally if your airline has pass-down on reserve, as all majors do, if you have decently high seniority you can bid reserve and then rarely fly. You'll actually have to take the occasional flight or go into the sim for recency.
Doesn’t work so well with the ‘best fit’ system that we have at WJ. Very rare you have the chance to pass off as we often only have a couple of captains on reserve per base if that.
I didn't realize Westjet has best fit.

Was that a company sell at some point?
What's done is done, but for others, if It's something that if ever comes up in negotiations, do not ever accept!
WestJet isn’t a pure “best fit” system. There is an element where it can seem that way to some perhaps as luck of the draw, base size, long call/short call assignment can all affect reserve usage.
We have (and have always had since reserve was implemented) the “bucket system” element, which matches up a pilot to a pairing with their days available and the corresponding assignment. A pilot can pass based on seniority if two or more pilots have the same parameters to be assigned a pairing. Now where our contract is more black and white versus other systems is the fact that there is a lot of language around how the system is run. Reading some contracts that just say reserve will be assigned based on “best fit”, that language is so open to interpretation that a potential grievance will always be in favour of crew scheduling and the company. The wja Collective Agreement language makes it easier to audit for the scheduling committee if a pilot feels they’ve been assigned a pairing that should have gone to someone more junior if the pilot wished to pass.
I find talking to other pilots on reserve that they have been able to pass under our system. Maybe not always, but it is a possibility. The call from Crewsked doesn’t 100% mean you’re going flying if you don’t wish to.
While not a pure seniority driven system, there is an element of seniority that drives assignments.
One other point that is relevant to the posters original question, for various reasons which I can only guess on, it seems that reserve utilization is low within our system, with corresponding low actual flying for pilots on reserve. That seems across the board.
I am in a relatively small base and I can say that our reserve folks aren’t flying much.
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