Which US airline would you join if Canada merges with America?

[digits_]

This all assumes we would be seen as equals.

Exactly, and it's highly unlikely that will happen.

What people expect will happen if Canada joins the US:
- We'll be getting a referendum where we can vote for a very detailed plan on how Canada would join the US
- There will be 10 to 13 states joining the US
- Less bureaucracy
- Lower taxes
- Better speed and quality of healthcare
- 100 CAD salaries will turn into 100 USD salaries
- Lower prices on pretty much everything

What will actually happen:
- A referendum with a very broad question 'Do you want to join the US', with no specifics whatsoever Nothing wrong with that
- One state only joining the US Unlikely. More likely 4-6. The prairie provinces will not allow the leftist bastions of Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa to represent them with a permanent democrat senatorship
- An extra layer of bureaucracy gets added There is much less bureaucracy in the US. And the gap is getting wider, look at how many federal employees are getting fired/laid off in the US right now

The US layer might be small, it's still an extra layer. I don't believe for a second the current provincial and federal level of government will just disappear if we were to join the US as a state.

- Taxes won't go down. Initially explained by 'there's a lot of work to do with all these changes' and then it will just get forgotten about By simple virtue of the Federal income tax rate in the US being 7.5%, taxes WILL, indeed, go down

So an additional 7.5% of taxes it will be.

- We'll all need to pay for private healthcare insurance, but there will be some weird construction that only the government is allowed to offer healthcare, resulting in the same level of care at a significantly higher expense for no reason Over 80% of US private insurance plans are covered by the employers. All US airlines have private health insurance plans, therefore moot.

A moot point? Really? Sure, if you're lucky to be healthy, have a job and get sick while you are employed, then sure, perhaps it won't be as horrible for you. The majority of the population will not be so lucky. I don't know a single US employee who's happy with their healthcare system.
Rich people? Perhaps. Working class employees, with healthcare coverage by their employer: none.

- 100 CAD salaries will stay 100 CAD salaries Not under ALPA's watch. And if they actually do, the economies of the former Canadian states will go red hot and over a few years, rebalance because of a reverse brain-drain

The ALPA argument would have been much stronger before the latest AC negotiations.
You're also assuming that ex Canadians would have the right to work anywhere in the US. That's not guaranteed either. It will likely be sold as a big pro by the US, but I'm sure there will be some 'temporary' transitional effects in place that would prevent this.
Look at it this way: if the US wanted Canadian labour, they can have that today by opening the border. The fact that they don't, means they don't want Canadians working in US territory. I don't see why that would change if we became part of the US.

- Prices on everything will go up for no reason other than 'we're charging you in USD now!' That assumes inflationary pressures from reducing bureaucracy and trade barriers, which is universally not the case. The Laffer curve proves that those things are deflationary
- Any funding or government programs originating in the US will be cased on population and not land size, and thus benefit Canada very little US states do receive varying rebalancing payments based on how poor the local economy is, also since Canada is full of leftists (democrats), it's highly likely that the next time democrats take the house and senate, favouritism will favour Canadian states

Do you expect the US to give extra money to a new state, and thus taking money away from their current states?

- Looser regulations on food will result in crappier and unhealthier food but we'll still pay the same high price Fun fact, in the winter, over 50% of Canada's fresh food comes from the US. And you're still eating Froot Loops, seed oils, and donuts as a Canadian, what makes you think suddenly your food choices will change? It's proven that more buying power makes people make healthier choices when it comes to their slop

You won't have a choice, the ingredients in whatever you're buying now might/will just change into worse crap.

[Inverted2]

Carbon tax and other taxes. They don’t do that sh1t south of the border. I saw gas for 2.89 a gallon. That’s a lot cheaper than we pay.

But that's not everywhere. I've seen it also close to $4.00 USD/gallon in places. The thing people are forgetting when they cheer Canada joining the US for lower taxes, is that the individual states impose their own taxation. I would count on if Canada became a state, our taxes would be closer to California's than Texas's. Assuming you still want the snow to be plowed here. On average I find US prices these days to be on par with Canada - on the average - once you do the conversion CAD to USD.

You are correct. Commie states like Kalifornia have very expensive gas. Free states like Texas and Florida it’s much lower. Governor of Kali is like Trudope on steroids with all his climate change enviro BS.

[altiplano]

It all hinges on what happens federally in Canada over the next 6 months. If the Liberal/NDP fools maintain power Alberta will be approached for statehood. They will hold a referendum, if they go, Saskatchewan will go with them. BC will take a hard look too and it will be close, split largely between urban/rural, but they will go and the Yukon and NWT will go with them.

CAD will get pegged to USD, absolutely borders will open including labour, there will be some US Federal support through the transition and things to figure out but the economies in the former Canadian areas will BOOM. Energy, ports, manufacturing, jobs will flow into the regions.

Western Ontario will be chomping at the bit, but Southern Ontario will hold out causing a movement toward separation of that region from the GTA voters. Manitoba will be next merging with Minnesota. Quebecers will suddenly become the Nationalists, trying to hold together what is left of the fiefdom that has supported them so long.

And that is likely where it ends, Newfoundland and Labrador will bail out of Confederation and open up their offshore resources. They may rejoin the UK.

Canada will end up much as it was at Confederation. Upper and Lower Canada.



This is just how bad Trudeau has been for this country. How weak we have become. We are a line of dominoes ready to tip. Trump is just the one to recognize it and push it to fall.

Once that's in place, what's left of Canada will be left to itself, no statehood, but the US leverage over all issues and policies will be enormous. Total dependency for most energy, food, security and more.

[1759]

I was in Dallas TX earlier this month. Gas ranged from 2.57-2.89/gal. When converted the USA was $ 12.00 cheaper.

[Donald]

I was in Dallas TX earlier this month. Gas ranged from 2.57-2.89/gal. When converted the USA was $ 12.00 cheaper.

$2.57USD/gal is approx $1CAD/litre.

Where are you paying $13CAD/litre for gas?

[BigQ]

This all assumes we would be seen as equals.

Exactly, and it's highly unlikely that will happen.

What people expect will happen if Canada joins the US:
- We'll be getting a referendum where we can vote for a very detailed plan on how Canada would join the US
- There will be 10 to 13 states joining the US
- Less bureaucracy
- Lower taxes
- Better speed and quality of healthcare
- 100 CAD salaries will turn into 100 USD salaries
- Lower prices on pretty much everything

What will actually happen:
- A referendum with a very broad question 'Do you want to join the US', with no specifics whatsoever Nothing wrong with that
- One state only joining the US Unlikely. More likely 4-6. The prairie provinces will not allow the leftist bastions of Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa to represent them with a permanent democrat senatorship
- An extra layer of bureaucracy gets added There is much less bureaucracy in the US. And the gap is getting wider, look at how many federal employees are getting fired/laid off in the US right now

The US layer might be small, it's still an extra layer. I don't believe for a second the current provincial and federal level of government will just disappear if we were to join the US as a state.
Wait, you WANT a Canadian federal, a US federal, a Canadian Provincial, a US state, and a municipal goverment? They'll just be transitioned, there is no need for 5 layers of government (but you can have your HOA if you want)

- Taxes won't go down. Initially explained by 'there's a lot of work to do with all these changes' and then it will just get forgotten about By simple virtue of the Federal income tax rate in the US being 7.5%, taxes WILL, indeed, go down

So an additional 7.5% of taxes it will be.
Again, why would our canadian federal income tax remain on top of a new federal income tax.

- We'll all need to pay for private healthcare insurance, but there will be some weird construction that only the government is allowed to offer healthcare, resulting in the same level of care at a significantly higher expense for no reason Over 80% of US private insurance plans are covered by the employers. All US airlines have private health insurance plans, therefore moot.

A moot point? Really? Sure, if you're lucky to be healthy, have a job and get sick while you are employed, then sure, perhaps it won't be as horrible for you. The majority of the population will not be so lucky. I don't know a single US employee who's happy with their healthcare system.
Rich people? Perhaps. Working class employees, with healthcare coverage by their employer: none. Yup, Obamacare ruined it. But you can always get a HSA or use Crowdhealth to get the health "insurance" you need

- 100 CAD salaries will stay 100 CAD salaries Not under ALPA's watch. And if they actually do, the economies of the former Canadian states will go red hot and over a few years, rebalance because of a reverse brain-drain

The ALPA argument would have been much stronger before the latest AC negotiations.
You're also assuming that ex Canadians would have the right to work anywhere in the US. That's not guaranteed either. It will likely be sold as a big pro by the US, but I'm sure there will be some 'temporary' transitional effects in place that would prevent this.
Look at it this way: if the US wanted Canadian labour, they can have that today by opening the border. The fact that they don't, means they don't want Canadians working in US territory. I don't see why that would change if we became part of the US. When a country annexes a country, that new annexed part gets full citizenship rights

- Prices on everything will go up for no reason other than 'we're charging you in USD now!' That assumes inflationary pressures from reducing bureaucracy and trade barriers, which is universally not the case. The Laffer curve proves that those things are deflationary
- Any funding or government programs originating in the US will be cased on population and not land size, and thus benefit Canada very little US states do receive varying rebalancing payments based on how poor the local economy is, also since Canada is full of leftists (democrats), it's highly likely that the next time democrats take the house and senate, favouritism will favour Canadian states

Do you expect the US to give extra money to a new state, and thus taking money away from their current states? They have been doing just that since 1964

- Looser regulations on food will result in crappier and unhealthier food but we'll still pay the same high price Fun fact, in the winter, over 50% of Canada's fresh food comes from the US. And you're still eating Froot Loops, seed oils, and donuts as a Canadian, what makes you think suddenly your food choices will change? It's proven that more buying power makes people make healthier choices when it comes to their slop

You won't have a choice, the ingredients in whatever you're buying now might/will just change into worse crap. Ok, then stop buying the middle of the supermarket aisles

Tonight, I'll pray for you and your TDS, digits. Hope you get better.

[digits_]

Why do you need to misrepresent what I wrote? Why do you have the need to attempt to insult me? What do you hope to gain with that?

If you truly want to join the US, you will need to convince at least another 30% of the Canadian population. I highly doubt I am the only one with the above listed concerns. You can address them in a factual matter, which might convince some readers of your view points. Instead you choose gaslighting and insults. Why?

[newlygrounded]

Exactly, and it's highly unlikely that will happen.

What people expect will happen if Canada joins the US:
- We'll be getting a referendum where we can vote for a very detailed plan on how Canada would join the US
- There will be 10 to 13 states joining the US
- Less bureaucracy
- Lower taxes
- Better speed and quality of healthcare
- 100 CAD salaries will turn into 100 USD salaries
- Lower prices on pretty much everything

What will actually happen:
- A referendum with a very broad question 'Do you want to join the US', with no specifics whatsoever Nothing wrong with that
- One state only joining the US Unlikely. More likely 4-6. The prairie provinces will not allow the leftist bastions of Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa to represent them with a permanent democrat senatorship
- An extra layer of bureaucracy gets added There is much less bureaucracy in the US. And the gap is getting wider, look at how many federal employees are getting fired/laid off in the US right now

The US layer might be small, it's still an extra layer. I don't believe for a second the current provincial and federal level of government will just disappear if we were to join the US as a state.
Wait, you WANT a Canadian federal, a US federal, a Canadian Provincial, a US state, and a municipal goverment? They'll just be transitioned, there is no need for 5 layers of government (but you can have your HOA if you want)

- Taxes won't go down. Initially explained by 'there's a lot of work to do with all these changes' and then it will just get forgotten about By simple virtue of the Federal income tax rate in the US being 7.5%, taxes WILL, indeed, go down

So an additional 7.5% of taxes it will be.
Again, why would our canadian federal income tax remain on top of a new federal income tax.

- We'll all need to pay for private healthcare insurance, but there will be some weird construction that only the government is allowed to offer healthcare, resulting in the same level of care at a significantly higher expense for no reason Over 80% of US private insurance plans are covered by the employers. All US airlines have private health insurance plans, therefore moot.

A moot point? Really? Sure, if you're lucky to be healthy, have a job and get sick while you are employed, then sure, perhaps it won't be as horrible for you. The majority of the population will not be so lucky. I don't know a single US employee who's happy with their healthcare system.
Rich people? Perhaps. Working class employees, with healthcare coverage by their employer: none. Yup, Obamacare ruined it. But you can always get a HSA or use Crowdhealth to get the health "insurance" you need

- 100 CAD salaries will stay 100 CAD salaries Not under ALPA's watch. And if they actually do, the economies of the former Canadian states will go red hot and over a few years, rebalance because of a reverse brain-drain

The ALPA argument would have been much stronger before the latest AC negotiations.
You're also assuming that ex Canadians would have the right to work anywhere in the US. That's not guaranteed either. It will likely be sold as a big pro by the US, but I'm sure there will be some 'temporary' transitional effects in place that would prevent this.
Look at it this way: if the US wanted Canadian labour, they can have that today by opening the border. The fact that they don't, means they don't want Canadians working in US territory. I don't see why that would change if we became part of the US. When a country annexes a country, that new annexed part gets full citizenship rights

- Prices on everything will go up for no reason other than 'we're charging you in USD now!' That assumes inflationary pressures from reducing bureaucracy and trade barriers, which is universally not the case. The Laffer curve proves that those things are deflationary
- Any funding or government programs originating in the US will be cased on population and not land size, and thus benefit Canada very little US states do receive varying rebalancing payments based on how poor the local economy is, also since Canada is full of leftists (democrats), it's highly likely that the next time democrats take the house and senate, favouritism will favour Canadian states

Do you expect the US to give extra money to a new state, and thus taking money away from their current states? They have been doing just that since 1964

- Looser regulations on food will result in crappier and unhealthier food but we'll still pay the same high price Fun fact, in the winter, over 50% of Canada's fresh food comes from the US. And you're still eating Froot Loops, seed oils, and donuts as a Canadian, what makes you think suddenly your food choices will change? It's proven that more buying power makes people make healthier choices when it comes to their slop

You won't have a choice, the ingredients in whatever you're buying now might/will just change into worse crap. Ok, then stop buying the middle of the supermarket aisles

Tonight, I'll pray for you and your TDS, digits. Hope you get better.

Private insurance is horrible because it means your families healthcare is reliant on you not getting fired. Even if pilots would come out ok I wouldn't want something that would be a net negative for the average person.

People complain the government "doesn't work" but think firing millions of staff will fix things? If anything these drastic cuts make the BEST people leave because they can find jobs elsewhere, you lose so much intuitional knowledge.

And TDS? Three years ago, if you told me Roe V wade would be overturned or the supreme court would rule the president is above the law, I'd laugh at you, yet here we are.

[Reinhard]

finna be a florida man

[hsilgnepilot]

AA - MIA, PHX or DFW
B6 - FLL or MCO
UA - IAH or MCO
WN - PHX, LAS, MCO or HOU/DAL
HA - HNL

Basically if it were up to me and I had a choice, just get me out of winter and not in California.

[BigQ]

Private insurance is horrible because it means your families healthcare is reliant on you not getting fired. Even if pilots would come out ok I wouldn't want something that would be a net negative for the average person. Europe works on private insurance. Howcome Europe's health care system works so well? (yes, NHS notwithstanding, they suck worse than the Canadian health care system)

People complain the government "doesn't work" but think firing millions of staff will fix things? If anything these drastic cuts make the BEST people leave because they can find jobs elsewhere, you lose so much intuitional knowledge. Badly working bureaucracy ALWAYS runs off the best employees first. The good ones have come and gone. Only the shit remains. Google Gary Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy

And TDS? Three years ago, if you told me Roe V wade would be overturned or the supreme court would rule the president is above the law, I'd laugh at you, yet here we are. Get ready for change

[newlygrounded]

Private insurance is horrible because it means your families healthcare is reliant on you not getting fired. Even if pilots would come out ok I wouldn't want something that would be a net negative for the average person. Europe works on private insurance. Howcome Europe's health care system works so well? (yes, NHS notwithstanding, they suck worse than the Canadian health care system)

People complain the government "doesn't work" but think firing millions of staff will fix things? If anything these drastic cuts make the BEST people leave because they can find jobs elsewhere, you lose so much intuitional knowledge. Badly working bureaucracy ALWAYS runs off the best employees first. The good ones have come and gone. Only the shit remains. Google Gary Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy

And TDS? Three years ago, if you told me Roe V wade would be overturned or the supreme court would rule the president is above the law, I'd laugh at you, yet here we are. Get ready for change

1. Because unlike the US government, the EU fines companies for breaking rules, and actually believes in regulation instead of "the free market will fix everything"

2. That's a very wrong statement, there are plenty of capable people working there due to the work life benefits and historical stability. The pay and BS does keep some people away but please explain how the current actions aren't going to drive away people? The conservatives/republicans always purposefully break the government and then suggest privatizing.

3. What does that even mean? Imagine if Trudeau banned all guns, and people said prepare for change? Do people here not care because this site is 99.9% men?

[BigQ]

1. And yet, we fine our companies for breaking rules too, but our health care system is shite as well. So, what's the difference?

2. "Very wrong" and yet incredibly accurate. Those who are pro-organization will always take over those who are pro-mission. Look at NAVCAN, bringing a high percentage of candidates to the OJT only to fail them at the very last moment, in order to preserve their overtime.

3. It's ok, not every one gets it.

[Handover]

You think you will have that option ? Obviously you haven't checked out how the folks living in various places the USA has annexed over the years are treated.

All of the states in the US were at one time. Annexed, and today, most of them have a higher GDP per capita (PPP) than Canada.

For reference, Canada’s GDP per capita (PPP) is $55,818 USD. Now compare that to these U.S. acquisitions:

1. Louisiana Purchase (1803):
Colorado ($90,109), Nebraska ($91,633), North Dakota ($97,003), South Dakota ($80,531), Wyoming ($89,016), Minnesota ($84,205)

2. Texas Annexation (1845):
Texas: $84,708

3. Oregon Territory (1846):
Washington: $103,402

4. Mexican Cession (1848):
California ($99,329), Utah ($82,315)

5. Gadsden Purchase (1854):
Arizona: $55,747 (just above Canada)
New Mexico: $52,178 (slightly below Canada)

6. Alaska Purchase (1867):
Alaska: $92,794

7. Hawaii Annexation (1898):
Hawaii: $78,084

The takeaway? The U.S. annexed these lands, and they ended up doing better than Canada economically.

That aside. Not advocating annexation, of course, but it’s clear that a much closer partnership with the U.S.—similar to the EU model or the Australia-New Zealand relationship—could be beneficial for Canada

[newlygrounded]

1. And yet, we fine our companies for breaking rules too, but our health care system is shite as well. So, what's the difference?

2. "Very wrong" and yet incredibly accurate. Those who are pro-organization will always take over those who are pro-mission. Look at NAVCAN, bringing a high percentage of candidates to the OJT only to fail them at the very last moment, in order to preserve their overtime.

3. It's ok, not every one gets it.

1. The fines are nothing in comparison to the EU ones. Theirs are also based on GLOBAL revenue, are you seriously going to say we meaningfully fine companies from breaking the law? I can think of several examples where it was dozens of times less than the profits. Remember the bread price fixing?

2. Did you forget navcanada is a private organization? They are a non profit but aren't a federal department or forced to follow the procedures set out by TBS, but clearly you have no experience or understanding.

3. Are you 12? Why not spill the beans on whatever horrors you're looking forward to

[digits_]

That aside. Not advocating annexation, of course, but it’s clear that a much closer partnership with the U.S.—similar to the EU model or the Australia-New Zealand relationship—could be beneficial for Canada

Possibly, and before these tariff threats most people would likely have welcomed that. Now, not so much. Even if we managed to come to an agreement, it's kind of pointless with a party that's not trustworthy.

[Handover]

That aside. Not advocating annexation, of course, but it’s clear that a much closer partnership with the U.S.—similar to the EU model or the Australia-New Zealand relationship—could be beneficial for Canada

Possibly, and before these tariff threats most people would likely have welcomed that. Now, not so much. Even if we managed to come to an agreement, it's kind of pointless with a party that's not trustworthy.

Think long term. We have been a staunch friend and vice versa with the US far longer than anyone has been alive. No other country comes close to it. The ramblings of one mad man shouldn't effect that in the long term. I can only imagine the bullying that will happen by our other neighbor or China if we are not tight with the US. Guaranteed they will benefit and we will lose in the long term

[8895]

Leave it to Avcan to thread drift immediately on what would be a cool “what if” thread… I’d say anywhere on the west coast and not flying a 37

[goldeneagle]

The takeaway? The U.S. annexed these lands, and they ended up doing better than Canada economically.

That aside. Not advocating annexation, of course, but it’s clear that a much closer partnership with the U.S.—similar to the EU model or the Australia-New Zealand relationship—could be beneficial for Canada

Take a good long look at that list, and ask yourself how the folks living in those places at the time of annexation were treated. Also, the numbers you quote are rather skewed by averages, you should look at the median, it'll tell a whole different story. If you have a hundred folks making 10K, and one making 5 mill, the average will show as 51K, but the median will still be 10K, which is more representative of the normal folks. And that kind of skew is really not that uncommon in the US

As for the close relationship you mention, that's always been there, it only fell apart 8 years ago when a new administration started throwing tariffs on Canadian exports to the US in total voilation of in force treaties and agreements.

The lesson Canadians need to take from this last round, USA is no longer a reliable partner in business or any other endeavor.

[Handover]

The takeaway? The U.S. annexed these lands, and they ended up doing better than Canada economically.

That aside. Not advocating annexation, of course, but it’s clear that a much closer partnership with the U.S.—similar to the EU model or the Australia-New Zealand relationship—could be beneficial for Canada

Take a good long look at that list, and ask yourself how the folks living in those places at the time of annexation were treated. Also, the numbers you quote are rather skewed by averages, you should look at the median, it'll tell a whole different story. If you have a hundred folks making 10K, and one making 5 mill, the average will show as 51K, but the median will still be 10K, which is more representative of the normal folks. And that kind of skew is really not that uncommon in the US

As for the close relationship you mention, that's always been there, it only fell apart 8 years ago when a new administration started throwing tariffs on Canadian exports to the US in total voilation of in force treaties and agreements.

The lesson Canadians need to take from this last round, USA is no longer a reliable partner in business or any other endeavor.

Thanks for the math lesson. I learned a lot.

That aside, who do you propose is going to be Canada's next best friend? Europe? Mexico? China maybe?

You think that we are treated badly by a friend now you wait till we have friends that have no cultural or geographic ties to us at all. News flash bud, no other country gives a toss about Canada

[newlygrounded]

The takeaway? The U.S. annexed these lands, and they ended up doing better than Canada economically.

That aside. Not advocating annexation, of course, but it’s clear that a much closer partnership with the U.S.—similar to the EU model or the Australia-New Zealand relationship—could be beneficial for Canada

Take a good long look at that list, and ask yourself how the folks living in those places at the time of annexation were treated. Also, the numbers you quote are rather skewed by averages, you should look at the median, it'll tell a whole different story. If you have a hundred folks making 10K, and one making 5 mill, the average will show as 51K, but the median will still be 10K, which is more representative of the normal folks. And that kind of skew is really not that uncommon in the US

As for the close relationship you mention, that's always been there, it only fell apart 8 years ago when a new administration started throwing tariffs on Canadian exports to the US in total voilation of in force treaties and agreements.

The lesson Canadians need to take from this last round, USA is no longer a reliable partner in business or any other endeavor.

Thanks for the math lesson. I learned a lot.

That aside, who do you propose is going to be Canada's next best friend? Europe? Mexico? China maybe?

You think that we are treated badly by a friend now you wait till we have friends that have no cultural or geographic ties to us at all. News flash bud, no other country gives a toss about Canada

They have an FDA that's not reporting disease outbreaks, a social security that's likely to disappear, and an administration that got voted in to lower the price of groceries that did a 180 on that (and countless other promises) what do we have to gain by becoming part of that mess?

[Handover]

The FDA doesn't report on disease out breaks. The CDC does. I'll leave it at that instead of answering your ignorant questions educated to you by tiktok

[newlygrounded]

Exactly, and it's highly unlikely that will happen.

What people expect will happen if Canada joins the US:
- We'll be getting a referendum where we can vote for a very detailed plan on how Canada would join the US
- There will be 10 to 13 states joining the US
- Less bureaucracy
- Lower taxes
- Better speed and quality of healthcare
- 100 CAD salaries will turn into 100 USD salaries
- Lower prices on pretty much everything

What will actually happen:
- A referendum with a very broad question 'Do you want to join the US', with no specifics whatsoever Nothing wrong with that
- One state only joining the US Unlikely. More likely 4-6. The prairie provinces will not allow the leftist bastions of Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa to represent them with a permanent democrat senatorship
- An extra layer of bureaucracy gets added There is much less bureaucracy in the US. And the gap is getting wider, look at how many federal employees are getting fired/laid off in the US right now

The US layer might be small, it's still an extra layer. I don't believe for a second the current provincial and federal level of government will just disappear if we were to join the US as a state.
Wait, you WANT a Canadian federal, a US federal, a Canadian Provincial, a US state, and a municipal goverment? They'll just be transitioned, there is no need for 5 layers of government (but you can have your HOA if you want)

- Taxes won't go down. Initially explained by 'there's a lot of work to do with all these changes' and then it will just get forgotten about By simple virtue of the Federal income tax rate in the US being 7.5%, taxes WILL, indeed, go down

So an additional 7.5% of taxes it will be.
Again, why would our canadian federal income tax remain on top of a new federal income tax.

- We'll all need to pay for private healthcare insurance, but there will be some weird construction that only the government is allowed to offer healthcare, resulting in the same level of care at a significantly higher expense for no reason Over 80% of US private insurance plans are covered by the employers. All US airlines have private health insurance plans, therefore moot.

A moot point? Really? Sure, if you're lucky to be healthy, have a job and get sick while you are employed, then sure, perhaps it won't be as horrible for you. The majority of the population will not be so lucky. I don't know a single US employee who's happy with their healthcare system.
Rich people? Perhaps. Working class employees, with healthcare coverage by their employer: none. Yup, Obamacare ruined it. But you can always get a HSA or use Crowdhealth to get the health "insurance" you need

- 100 CAD salaries will stay 100 CAD salaries Not under ALPA's watch. And if they actually do, the economies of the former Canadian states will go red hot and over a few years, rebalance because of a reverse brain-drain

The ALPA argument would have been much stronger before the latest AC negotiations.
You're also assuming that ex Canadians would have the right to work anywhere in the US. That's not guaranteed either. It will likely be sold as a big pro by the US, but I'm sure there will be some 'temporary' transitional effects in place that would prevent this.
Look at it this way: if the US wanted Canadian labour, they can have that today by opening the border. The fact that they don't, means they don't want Canadians working in US territory. I don't see why that would change if we became part of the US. When a country annexes a country, that new annexed part gets full citizenship rights

- Prices on everything will go up for no reason other than 'we're charging you in USD now!' That assumes inflationary pressures from reducing bureaucracy and trade barriers, which is universally not the case. The Laffer curve proves that those things are deflationary
- Any funding or government programs originating in the US will be cased on population and not land size, and thus benefit Canada very little US states do receive varying rebalancing payments based on how poor the local economy is, also since Canada is full of leftists (democrats), it's highly likely that the next time democrats take the house and senate, favouritism will favour Canadian states

Do you expect the US to give extra money to a new state, and thus taking money away from their current states? They have been doing just that since 1964

- Looser regulations on food will result in crappier and unhealthier food but we'll still pay the same high price Fun fact, in the winter, over 50% of Canada's fresh food comes from the US. And you're still eating Froot Loops, seed oils, and donuts as a Canadian, what makes you think suddenly your food choices will change? It's proven that more buying power makes people make healthier choices when it comes to their slop

You won't have a choice, the ingredients in whatever you're buying now might/will just change into worse crap. Ok, then stop buying the middle of the supermarket aisles

Tonight, I'll pray for you and your TDS, digits. Hope you get better.

Funny, all the people screaming TDS had no issue with abortions protections being taken away, and don’t seem to care an UNELECTED billionaire is in the white house and is accessing classified info

Notice how Mr Q is silent when hard facts come up?

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The FDA doesn't report on disease out breaks. The CDC does. I'll leave it at that instead of answering your ignorant questions educated to you by tiktok

They do when it involves food

https://www.fda.gov/food/alerts-advisor ... iry-cattle

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/fda-pa ... nications/

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The FDA doesn't report on disease out breaks. The CDC does. I'll leave it at that instead of answering your ignorant questions educated to you by tiktok

Kind of weird you and Q are suddenly quiet?