Filing a lawsuit against Transport Canada Inspector

[CD]

Keep on laying on the whitewash for your department, CD. It looks real purty from a distance.

No whitewash from me. I've seen "vindictive *ssholes" in a lot of places - government, company, hangar floor and on the flight deck. But if one of these characters gets into the public service and breaks the faith, then string 'em up.

It seems to me that the requirements and obligations of the job are clearly identified and everyone should know what those are. If an individual chooses to ignore those obligations, then there should be no protection for them.

Of course, that's just my opinion...

[snaproll20]

Yes, the Civil Service Oath is "in Place" but only came in on September 2003. Was it signed by people already employed? I have talked to a couple of Inspectors, only recently, who say they never signed any such oath. Where is the control? Incidentally, if you happen to be with TC, I hope you are as upright as many TC I have known. Personally, my own experience here allows me no more trust and morally, if you sit back and ignore this, you only have yourself to blame if you feel diminished in this regard.

[FSS]

The demise of Spur Aviation, Great Bear Aviation and Air 2000 were based on the vindictivness of one TC inspector whose sole purpose was to "bring him down". To bad that 5 million lawsuit was never carried out due to the chief witness's death. The ruination of one man's livelihood due to "one bad apple".

[hz2p]

9 out of 10 Inspector are either ok guys, or merely deadwood marking the days until retirement. I have no problem with either. I count many retired Inspectors amongst my friends.

However, 1 in 10 Inspectors can be really nasty characters, and abuse their office to pursue personal vendettas.

The problem with Transport is that the reaction to this "bad apple" behaviour is to stonewall and deny, deny, deny. Transport can't ever admit it's made a mistake, and it's got more resources than anyone who might oppose it, so it always wins on a case-by-case basis.

However, this behaviour has resulted in the animosity that we see today.

[Wilbur]

Regarding the oath of office, you can be sure the person signed it. Most people in government don't necessarily remember signing it, but you can be sure it's in his personnel file. Even if by chance he didn't, it's still law and he's still required to comply with it regardless of whether or not he signed a document.

Something you may also want to do straight away is make an application under freedom of information. Request a copy of all documents, notes, memorandums, and e-mails containing your name or making reference to you in any way. Especially ask for e-mails and documents deleted from that inspector's computer. I don't know how their computer network functions, but if it's like the one at my government worksite files he deletes from his personal drive will be stored on the network server for a considerable amount of time. If so, their information technology people should be able to retrieve them.

If it's a long distance phone call to any of the people you allege he spoke with about you, likewise, make an FOI application for that individual's phone records. The government has it's own LD system, but it still tracks the numbers called and duration of the call.

People who abuse their authority are, in my experience, stupid. They rarely cover their tracks in more than a superficial manner because their arrogance causes them to believe they are untouchable. As a result, they can be easily caught with a bit of digging. Just don't count on anyone but yourself to do that digging unless the "political heat" gets bad enough that the "system" needs a fall guy.

[snaproll20]

You are absolutely correct. TC is unable to admit it is wrong. However, they are morally wrong in not acting. Years ago, the CFI at the Edmonton Flying Club phoned TC and told them a certain bad -attitude Inspector was not welcome on the premises....even in the coffee bar. He was sent to Calgary. Despite protests from individuals and companies, there is one current individual who seems bulletproof in this regard (he makes the above guy look like a saint!) and it is always the same.....they ignore you, or tell you you are "making it up." Case-by-case, they get away with it which is why I suggested people have to stand up and be counted.
"Normal" TC employees need have no fear of an Industry response to what has been going on. My information is also that many of them want to see this person removed.

[tailgunner]

after reading the above posts I can only say that perhaps TC was acting in the good faith when they removed the offending companies OC. Perhaps there was enough reasonable justification to do just that. I am NOT a fan of TC, but I do know that a single TC inspector cannot , on his own, remove an OC. There must be reasonable grounds to do that. There must be agreement by MORE THAN ONE inspector. If the people involved had perhaps abided by the rules that other companies in the Western region were doing, then this might not have happened in the first place. This woe is me attitude gets a little old. Abide by the CARS and you will have fewer problems , try and skirt the REGS, ie. Training , line indoc etc. and you will probabley have trouble.

[Doctor MCDU]

after reading the above posts I can only say that perhaps TC was acting in the good faith when they removed the offending companies OC. Perhaps there was enough reasonable justification to do just that. I am NOT a fan of TC, but I do know that a single TC inspector cannot , on his own, remove an OC. There must be reasonable grounds to do that. There must be agreement by MORE THAN ONE inspector. If the people involved had perhaps abided by the rules that other companies in the Western region were doing, then this might not have happened in the first place. This woe is me attitude gets a little old. Abide by the CARS and you will have fewer problems , try and skirt the REGS, ie. Training , line indoc etc. and you will probabley have trouble.

This has nothing to do with a companys AOC. This is about one Inspector who is grossly abusing his authority, and causing career threatening damage to at least one person. In short, this is about Slander and Defamation. Lets not loose track of the issue.

[snaproll20]

Yes, until my own experience in this regard, I would have usually agreed with you. Many people with TC problems brought it upon themselves, either deliberately or by inadvertent omission. Still, even the 'scofflaws' are entitled to be treated with the proper process. Most TC inspectors will coach, cajole, threaten or otherwise work with a company to rectify problems. There is even a recognized process for this.
The person highlighted here is vindictive and out to get people. Period.
If you still feel the same way, ask yourself one question: "Why do so many people, who repeatedly stress their good relations with other TC personnel, have so many problems with this one?"

[CD]

Yes, the Civil Service Oath is "in Place" but only came in on September 2003. Was it signed by people already employed? I have talked to a couple of Inspectors, only recently, who say they never signed any such oath.

I can't speak about those Inspectors or what they may, or may not, have signed. Once upon a time in a previous life, I was required to complete a "Security Screening Certificate and Briefing Form" for my employment. Part of that form contained a briefing summary that the individual was required to read and sign as having understood:

The individual named herein is authorized access to the level of information/assets indicated above when there is a work related need.

If an individual fails to safegaurd, releases without appropriate authority or uses information/assets for unauthorized purposes, such action may constitute a contravention of the Official Secrets Act, the Access to Information Act, the Privacy Act or other Acts of Parliament, a breach of the Governement Security Policy of the Oath of Secrecy. These provisions apply both during and after service to the Government of Canada. Specific safeguards are identified in the Governement Security Policy and Standards and in corresponding departmental or organizational policies which apply to classified and designated information/assets. These safeguards must be applied. Classified or designated information/assets must be returned immediately to the appropriate institutional authority when notification is given that the person named herein no longer requires access to such information/assets.

...

I understand and agree to comply with the above statutory and administrative requirements. [individual's signature]

This was the form as it existed back in 1992. I see that it has been updated recently but it appears to contain essentially the same Briefing Summary:

Government of Canada - Security Screening Certificate and Briefing Form

Sooooo... I would agree with Wilbur - they may not remember signing it but it will most likely be in their personnel file. I also agree with Wilbur about submitting a request through Access to Information - if this hasn't already been done:

Using the Access to Information Act and Privacy Act

[Doctor MCDU]

Just to satisfy everyones curiosity. I have recieved 56 emails. Each one has guessed the correct Transport Canada Inspector.

Does anyone other than me think that there is a serious problem at TC with this guy?

[Doctor MCDU]

after reading the above posts I can only say that perhaps TC was acting in the good faith when they removed the offending companies OC. Perhaps there was enough reasonable justification to do just that. I am NOT a fan of TC, but I do know that a single TC inspector cannot , on his own, remove an OC. There must be reasonable grounds to do that. There must be agreement by MORE THAN ONE inspector. If the people involved had perhaps abided by the rules that other companies in the Western region were doing, then this might not have happened in the first place. This woe is me attitude gets a little old. Abide by the CARS and you will have fewer problems , try and skirt the REGS, ie. Training , line indoc etc. and you will probabley have trouble.

No OC was removed in this matter.

[Cat Driver]

Hi gang:

The Cat is still prowling around Holland, I will be returning to Canada on July 15, and then will be leaving for Greece or Italy for a short movie shoot that needs a Catalina in it.

I am very concerned about the allegations that have been put forward in this thread, my concern is that if true, the person making them does not get ground up in the gears of the regulator by not understanding the workings of the system.

Do not waste your money with lawyers at this early stage of your complaint as TC has more lawyers and money than all of us put together.

You all must clearly understand that people like CD are not our enemy, they are only doing what they preceive they are allowed to do to help us without getting their nuts ground up in the same machine that is used to grind us into dust.

If your complaint is sincere and justified it might be in your favour to reveal who you are, that at least will add credibility to your position.....BUT..... you must be prepared to take the risk that you will be in grave danger of retribution from the regulator, they cannot in their closely guarded group of top level managers admit to wrongdoing as it is just not done....period.

When I return to Canada you can contact me directly and I will give you my advice of what I think you should do.

Remember that your chance of sucess when taking on TC is very, very limited as they will stonewall, weasel, lie, threaten, punish and deny you due process until you are either dead or destroyed and lack the will to continue the struggle. They have found that I am one tough SOB to put down and it is truly satisfying for me to continue to grind away with my own machinne to even the playing field.

The bottom line is that there is corruption within the body of the regulator and we have very little chance of doing anything to change it individually.....but in numbers there is strength and some of our allies are within TC already.

CAUTION:

We must not bury our heads in the sand with comments such as if we abide by the CAR's and the policies of the regulator we will be safe, that is utter rubbish, I personally have made abiding by the rules a religion and have learned that all you need is to get involved with one of the sickos that use their position to bully you and you can have your life ruined if you are preceived to be a danger to their upper management...I know, I am in that category already and can beyond any doubt identify some of their more dishonest and corrupt members............it is very disturbing to know just how high up the ladder of authority these parasites have slithered.

And I can stand up in public and name them, and will.

Now I must get back to the world of constructive effort to make some headway with the mechanical problems with this Catalina so we can get it flying.

Cat.

[Doctor MCDU]

Cat,
I agree with you. And, I will NOT back down from this. This TC inspector will not scare or intimidate me. He has already threatened "Enforcment action" and I simply don't care. I will feel much better standing up to this guy, than simply backing down in fear.

I have been offered a position with a previous employer (Foriegn Carrier) and am currently undergoing recurrent training with them.

Once that has been completed (July 18th) I will make my name, and all the details regarding this problem public. However, I have been warned that if I do, this forum will be removed (See above). I respect the wishes of this sites moderators, so I will not post those details here. I will advise everyone where those details will be posted.

Please contact me at your earliest. I believe that with enough support, we can beat this sort of TC behaviour.

Best Regards

BOP

[Cat Driver]

BOP :

I may be returning to Canada in a week from now as the machine that I am going to fly is still not ready due to various difficulties.

It is comforting for me to know that there may be others that are willing to stand up regardless of the short term consequences involved, in the long term we can make changes for the betterment of our industry and that is my desire.

Document everything that you can remember, it is the only way to keep your complaints in factual order.

Just remember the individual with whom you are dissatisfied is merly a symptom of the virus that has infected the upper level of TC management.

To cure the disease we must remove the sourse of the infection, and that will be found at the upper level of management......I can show documentation to identify the root cause and it will take public exposure to rid ourself 's of these people.


For the record I have not found the same level of dissatisfaction with the system in any of the other countries that I fly in, and believe me I discuss these problems with many people world wide and the general consensus is that TC is in a class by its self for this insidious cancer.

Cat

[CD]

For the record I have not found the same level of dissatisfaction with the system in any of the other countries that I fly in, and believe me I discuss these problems with many people world wide and the general consensus is that TC is in a class by its self for this insidious cancer.

Cat

I know of another example - a very PUBLIC example - of a regulatory authority flexing its muscle:

FAA vs. Airman: Be Very Afraid!

EDITORIAL. If you think the FAA and NTSB learned their lessons after the public relations catastrophe surrounding the Bob Hoover affair, you'd be wrong. As recent FAA persecutions of designated examiner Howard Fried and flight instructor Mike Taylor prove, when a FSDO inspector decides to go after your certificates, don't count on much justice from the system. We think these cases are disgraceful, and that changes are needed to prevent such abuses in the future.

By Mike Busch
AVweb Editor-in-Chief

FAA vs. Airman: Be Very Afraid (full article)

The FAA's Anthony J. Broderick Talks About the Bob Hoover Affair

Bob Hoover Interview on AOPA

Some Thoughts About FAA Safety Enforcement

[Cat Driver]

Hi CD :

Boy oh boy did you ever get me there.

I have to agree that TC is no worse than the FAA for abuse of power.

The examples that you posted are eclipsed by the fate that befell that guy that died in a jet crash and it was shown that a FAA inspector had driven him to a breakdown that was tied to his death in the crash, I bet you can find it and post it for everyone to read.

The stunning part is the government guy was promotted up the ladder just as if nothing had happened.

Is there an answer for us?

If we try and keep on good terms with the regulator and follow the rules we can still run afoul of the system and lose big time if we decide to refuse to be screwed by an Inspector when we have done nothing wrong.

If we on the other hand defy all the rules that is even worse...so tell me what is the answer?

Cat Driver:

[Doctor MCDU]

I too have discussed TC with respected members of foriegn Transportation Departments.

The general opinion is that, in the Transport Authority game of ball, TC is a bunch of Bench Warmers.

Funny, the Inspector that I am having my issues with, has slandered me to the Director of Civil Aviation for a country on the other side of the world. And, I was not operating with my Canadian License when I worked there.

It has just been brought to my attention, that this particular TC inspector has some skeletons in his closet, including a criminal problem that has since been pardoned. Also, a US certified air carrier has provided some interesting information about him that was discovered whilst he was working with them in the USA.

Finally, I have been in contact with several news media. Cat, I need some help from you regarding what I should share with them. Nevertheless, they (News) are interested in the type of "government corruption".

[Duke Elegant]

Hey Cat Man ... how are you doin'?

Is Penny with you over there? When I phone your house it seems the fax is stuck on or something. I was worried because you had not been posting.

Anyhow , as you are aware I never get involved in the "down and dirty" with transport on this forum mainly because Dukes don't do that.

I have had my squabbles with Transport people too but I have also received tremendous help on occasion especially back a few years when there were some excellent people working there. I still have a lot of friends there especially the ones I used to instruct with.

TC is a place where you are bound to find unscrupulous people because it is a place where power can be so easily mishandled. These people should be rooted out for sure.

What about their other problems?

Now you be the judge. FOUR months ago I exposed a phoney pilot who did not have a pilot's licence (or a medical) but he had a student permit way back in '96 or so and he was renting an airplane from a mutual friend and flying people into a short gravel strip with apower line at one end and all over BC.
Now don't be too hasty on crucifying my friend who let him have the airplane because these crooks are VERY smooth and since my buddy grew up with the phoney one he trusted that he had "three thousand hours and flew a Pitts Special in the movies" as he claimed.
This phoney idiot even had the nerve to fill in the logbook and sign it.
A TC inspector came out and interviewed us and we gave thm the logbook , a list of names of the passengers , and witnesses , and his place of employment ....and so on. I did a lot of work for them.

Then my mate , the aircraft owner , and I started to look stupid. Nothing was done. NOTHING! Four freekin' months.... NOTHING!

So I stayed off morphine that day just to make me ornery and I phoned TC and I ripped into the Superintendant , threatened him with a deadline and made some demands.

His one feeble excuse was that the inspector assigned to the case had holidays to deal with and get this......"he was busy with a move to a new house" ........ "SCUSE ME!!!!!!! I actually thought that they were like the rest of us and move on their OWN time.

So the phoney one STILL doesn't have a letter from TC.... NOTHING> and my friend STILL doesn't have his log book.

The Super was kind enough to phone back and tell us he has assigned another inspector. I am going to phone back on Monday and tell them I want BOTH inspectors on this otherwise I am going to Ottawa with this.

It should be a cakewalk.

I have nothing to lose. (BY the way , the Super did seem to be a nice guy and all that was needed was a tune-up from the Duke.)

PM me Cat Humper

[Duke Elegant]

And to Based on Principle...

Best of luck in this matter. I have a VERY good contact in Ottawa and will help if I can.

Even if you were a complete ars*hole they cannot do this to you.

[CD]

If we try and keep on good terms with the regulator and follow the rules we can still run afoul of the system and lose big time if we decide to refuse to be screwed by an Inspector when we have done nothing wrong.

If we on the other hand defy all the rules that is even worse...so tell me what is the answer?

I'm not certain that anyone has found the answer yet... The information that has been posted on AVweb about the FAA reads like yours and B.O.P.'s situations -- so much so that it's scary.

I would like to believe that we could rely upon honesty, integrity and a sense of morality on the part of the regulator - after all, their job is to serve the Canadian public and these people should be held to a higher level of accountability as they are in positions of trust. Unfortunately, people are human. People make mistakes. People misinterpret. People screw things up. These things we can forgive, or at least understand, because we are people too.

What is inexcusable and what cannot and must not be forgiven is when a person in a position of authority intentionally abuses that authority - for whatever reason - and is not held accountable for their actions.

Of course, that's just my own opinion...

As you read through the excerpts and complete articles from the links below, you can replace FAA with TC and it's like reading your own stories:

An Open Letter to Administrator Jane Garvey: The FAA's Top Lawyers Are Out of Control!

EDITORIAL. A month-long investigation by AVweb has uncovered extremely disturbing evidence of misconduct bordering on abuse of power by at least three of the highest-ranking attorneys in the FAA. Specifically, AVweb has obtained an internal FAA staff report which reveals that these three top FAA lawyers continued to prosecute an enforcement action against an innocent aviation businessman for nearly a year after being informed that the FAA's own technical expert in Flight Standards had investigated the alleged violation and concluded that the complaint was entirely without merit and that no violation in fact occurred.

...

Who will protect us from the FAA lawyers?

Sadly, I fear it may be impossible to totally eradicate this sort of attitude on the part of FAA lawyers. Most of the other key decision makers in the FAA came up through the aviation ranks as pilots, mechanics, controllers or aviation businesspeople, so they can identify with the people whom they are tasked to regulate. On the other hand, most FAA lawyers aren't ex-airmen, and so perhaps it shouldn't be surprising that they have far more allegiance to the Regulations than they do to the people being regulated.

It's a sad fact that criminals in this country have far more rights and protections from persecution and abuse than do the targets of FAA enforcement actions. While this may be perfectly legal, it is morally indefensible.

Complete article on AVweb

What can we all learn from the misfortunes of Bob Hoover, Howard Fried and Mike Taylor? There are several lessons here:

* If an FAA Inspector decides to go after your certificate, he's probably going to succeed no matter how valiantly you fight for Truth, Justice and the American Way. So it's best to keep a low profile and not get any FSDO folks mad at you in the first place. They don't fight fair, and they have a lot more money to spend on lawyers than you do.
* Join a legal plan like the AOPA Legal Services Plan. Defending yourself against an FAA certificate action can easily cost many tens of thousands of dollars.
* Never rely on anything an FAA Inspector tells you unless you get it in writing or on tape. The next Inspector you talk to may hold a diametrically opposite interpretation, and he may be the one going after your ticket.
* If you are involved in an accident or incident or receive a letter from the FAA saying that they're investigating a possible violation, don't say anything to anybody until you've contacted an experienced aviation lawyer. Even then, don't say anything (or let your lawyer say anything) unless you have a tape recorder running or a court reporter transcribing the conversation. If it's your word against theirs, the judge will believe them. And you sure don't want to give the FAA Inspector any more information to use against you than he already has.
* If you're a Flight Instructor, document every detail of the instruction you give your students in triplicate. Staple one signed copy in your student's logbook, keep the second copy in your own logbook...and send the third to your lawyer, just in case!

Gosh, I hate to come across paranoid. My own personal experience with the FAA in some thirty years of flying has been very positive. The great majority of FAA folks are honorable, dedicated and fair. The American airspace system offers more safety and freedom than any other in the world.

But you never can tell when you'll come to the attention of a Bad Apple Inspector. Unfortunately, they're out there. So until the system is changed, until the Bad Apples are weeded out of the FSDOs, until an airman's appeal process becomes something more than just a series of rubber-stamp affirmations of the Inspector's original charges, and until a Bad Apple Inspector can be held accountable for malicious prosecution of an airman, I'm afraid we'd all better keep our heads down and our powder dry.

FAA vs. Airman: 10 Tips to Avoid Becoming a Victim

Understanding the not-so-legal process of an FAA violation

Laws were crafted which gave the FAA the power to suspend or revoke a pilot's license. All familiar know that suspensions and revocations can totally ruin a pilot's career and life. It's no accident that the term, "punishment" isn't mentioned in any associated text. The term is avoided with nefarious methodology; make no mistake about it. Any judicial recourse has been made so detail-intensive, time consuming and prohibitively expensive that the pilots are effectively locked out of the judicial system.

For the FAA to resort to felonies in the process of a violation is not uncommon. When they knowingly lie (extremely common) that qualifies as fraud and a felony under a variety of federal laws.

Guess what -

1. They never get seriously investigated.

2. If they did 'get caught,' they would have the benefit of 'due process' and a jury trial.

3. They continue with impunity; amplifying their own power.

Full article here...

[Cat Driver]

CD :

Maybe someday we will meet, I can give you a look inside the regulator that you in all likelyhood have never ventured into.

Like you I believe that there has to be integrity and morality within our regulator, remember it is our regulator and thus our link to control and oversight of our industry.

When we drift into the dangerous waters of a regulator controlled by people with only self serving intrests that corrupt the very framework of the regulating body we are sliding down the slippery slope of anarchy within the system. I guess in all fairness I am a mercenary at heart and thus well suited to the roll of taking on a difficult cause for reward.....my reward will be having done something positive for all the grunts out there in industry and within the regulator that are just to busy surving to expend the needed energy to rid the system of dishonest parasites that have moved into positions of power within the regulator.

It is noteworthy that finally after several years of relating my experiences with several unethical TC managers people are finally joining me in relating the same concerns in their own association with the regulator.

There are only a few at the top that are responsible for this sad state of affairs.

It is my intention to finish what I started, get rid of them.

That can only be done through a joint effort and by forcing the political side of Government to interceed and bring fairness and honesty back into the offices of TC, we must start at Tower C.

If enough people within the industry step foward and demand that our MP's interceed we will then make headway.

I am sitting in a Holiday Inn in Holland and this internet surf is costing me 12.50 euros for 24 hours...that is $20.00 Canadian!!

But what the hell I have to spend my money somewhere.

Cat

[hz2p]

CD: I'm glad you're finally realizing that not everything is roses in the land of bureaucrats. From what we see on both sides of the border, it would appear to a pathological, systemic problem that bureaucrats like to vindictively abuse their power against tax-paying citizens.

What's most disappointing is that the bureaucracy appears to do nothing about these abuses, except to circle the wagon train, say nothing, deny there's a problem, and hope the abused tax-paying citizen goes away.

This would appear to completely opposite to what the regulator wants pilots to do, which is to spill the beans and tears on the carpet. Perhaps pilots would be best off to emulate the behaviour of the regulator, hm?

I might add that there are cases of abuse north of the border that are just as bad as what has happened south of the border.

[snaproll20]

A big "Hear! Hear!" on the urge for action.
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Personally, I have had enough of the abuse and lies. One solid dose after almost 40 years in aviation has been enough for me. As CD said earlier "String 'em up!"
Count me in.

[Cat Driver]

Snaproll and gang:

I am up early here in Amsterdam ( 5 am ) getting some use of this internet connection at the hotel before going to the airport.

There have been more delays in the preperation of this Cat for the annual sign off and they are sending me home for about a week to give me some time to attend to my own life, I have mixed feelings about flying back home and then after about a week flying all the way back here and going through the jet lag crap twice just to spend a week at home.

Maybe, just maybe I am getting somewhere with my TC problem, which in the final analysis is everyones problem because if they can get away with doing it to me they will do it to anyone they want to.

I will be communicating directly with the Regional Director General Transport Canada, Pacific Region on my return.

For those of you not familiar with the structure of TC the RDG has oversite of all branches of TC within his region of which Civil Aviation is only one branch.

From my several years of dealing with this office it is my personal opinion based on the actions and lack thereof with the office of the RDG that there is zero probability of receiving fair and honest handling of my complaints under the present management of the office of the RDG.

I am considering a new approach to the dissemination of facts in my ongoing struggle with the individuals that I have been dealing with in these issues, the key to sucess in my opinion is broad exposure of each individual and identifying them by position and their names, thereby allowing the industry to get to know the quality of people that we have managing our affairs.

When I get back home I will have a chat with the owner of Avcanada and see if he will allow me to post my next letter to the RDG here on Avcanada, I hope that that will be possible as I can see no legal reason why I cannot write a letter to the RDG and the public in general and maybe Avcanada would agree to allow me to post it, if not I will post it on the Underground site.

If I get my money back from these theives I will throw a real celebration party for the gang here and will ask the Duke to be the guest speaker.

You have my solem promise that if I get my money back from TC I will spend ten thousand dollars on a celebration party for anyone who wishes to attend, that you all can count on, I unlike some that work for the regulator have enough integrity to stand by my word.

Cat