Air Bravo

Grey_Wolf · Post by **Grey_Wolf** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:15 pm

Did anybody who applied get a response yet?

Tui · Post by **Tui** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:23 am

While everything may seem great there now, be forewarned that Rick WILL sell his grandmother (and anyone else he can get) for a buck. The term "complete lack of morals" applies here. He was always a good guy when everything was rosy (when I knew him) but as soon as the opportunity presented itself he took advantage of everything he could and stabbed some of his greatest suporters in the back. As soon as staff gets scarce, you'll find yourself sleeping on the stretchers so he can pretend your duty day is over on your way back from Windsor. <---[FACT!!!] He is not above pulling a "B. Mackie" (when Air Med and Samaritan parted ways). You can trust him about as far as you can throw him. I could go on but I'm running out of time. Someone should start a thread outing all the most untrustworthy people in the industry. Be careful!!!

quickflight · Post by **quickflight** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:26 pm

That's a total pile of crap. I have been here for a year and have never had pressure to conduct a flight in any way other than what I saw fit. I have have been a chief pilot before and would never accept that kind of operating. This company has been operated in the utmost professional manner considering how fluid medevac is. Even with the drastic change that has occured ie ACP medics he has done everything possible to not lay off anyone unlike some other operators. Bravo is well regarded with respect to ORNGE and we have a good working relationship with fellow employees and with management. Not too many bosses out there who will come into town to conduct business and take a bunch of the staff out for dinner just because. Sounds to me to be a sour medic on a rant, go back to working land, air is obviously too tough for you.

code red · Post by **code red** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:18 pm

Hey Tui,

I couldn't have said it better myself!

People have NO idea what they're getting involved with!!!

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:21 am

Tui wrote:While everything may seem great there now, be forewarned that Rick WILL sell his grandmother (and anyone else he can get) for a buck. The term "complete lack of morals" applies here. He was always a good guy when everything was rosy (when I knew him) but as soon as the opportunity presented itself he took advantage of everything he could and stabbed some of his greatest suporters in the back. As soon as staff gets scarce, you'll find yourself sleeping on the stretchers so he can pretend your duty day is over on your way back from Windsor. <---[FACT!!!] He is not above pulling a "B. Mackie" (when Air Med and Samaritan parted ways). You can trust him about as far as you can throw him. I could go on but I'm running out of time. Someone should start a thread outing all the most untrustworthy people in the industry. Be careful!!!

ALL TRUE.
I have seen first hand the 'sleeping in the back, duty rest' bullshit.
If he is behaving now, it's just an act. That guy is ruthless.

TopRudder · Post by **TopRudder** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:47 am

Hey QuickFLight

You dont know shit! Trust me when I say YEL base is way different than YQT and Captains get it worst than FO's.

He has lost alot of great guys cause he doesnt know when to stop pushing and lying. Stick around long enough and youle see too.

TR

001 · Post by **001** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:39 pm

Easy TR, you and I both know, you posting about Air Bravo is hypocritical. Just ask shimmydamener.

EatSleepFly · Post by **EatSleepFly** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:03 pm

For as LONG as I can remember for many years now, air bravo has had the reputation "Get there or DIE trying" and a lot of you know you can not disagree with that!

quickflight · Post by **quickflight** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:03 pm

Well TR, sooo passionate, great speech. Spoken like someone who really does know s***. I on the other hand have never really wanted a degree in manure. I have been here for a while, a pretty good while and have had a great experience, and been treated really well. I'm sorry that you don't feel that way. Perhaps you were unable to rise to the challenge and therefore had to be pushed. As for the die tryin' thing; well I can't speak for other captains but as I said earlier, I have never been asked or expected to fly in any other way than I saw fit. Remember with medevac you and the company get paid whether you miss or not. So sad for you guys that you couldn't make it work, I'm having a great time with good people on my favorite plane to date.

EatSleepFly · Post by **EatSleepFly** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:38 pm

you getting paid to represemnt the company man? my gosh didn't know a pc12, or a light twin can be so amazing! come fly a g5 and let me know

motionsickness69 · Post by **motionsickness69** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:58 am

WOW only thing I ever heard was how good it was there......visited the hangar in T-Bay on more than one occassion...all the folks there seemed very happy. I've been trying to get in for a while now. One thing i do know for sure is that you are required to fly plenty of hours each month, but is that not what we want? Maybe working for a living is beyond some people? Anyway just my .02

code red · Post by **code red** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:39 am

Working hard for a living is fine - its the constant lying, cheating, stealing, and scamming that wears most out.

You'll see.

Tui · Post by **Tui** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:28 pm

When everything is going well, everything will be fine. The true measure of a person's character comes when the chips are down and the pressure's on. I don't doubt that most of the current and recent staff have had good experiences and that they all enjoy working there. Hopefully, the industry continues as is and you'll never have to see the side of Rick that myself and others have witnessed. I'm honestly glad that everything is going well for the current staff. If you give it some time and you're there long enough, I suspect you'll see him for what he is eventually.

Also, I'm not a sour medic. I've been flying for over 15 years.

El Comat · Post by **El Comat** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:01 pm

One YQT FO that lives in the same apartment building as me gave Rick two weeks notice, and Rick pretty much tried threatening him by saying "you're burning bridges" and all that good crap. Said FO checked the next schedule and say that he was not on it for his last two weeks

. They tried to BS him and tell him that they didn't need him (ya right, what NW ON company has too many pilots??) and that if wanted to earn his two weeks he could come in and wash airplanes.

I am friends with numerous Bravo pilots (past and present) and from what I gather, Rick is great until you go against the flow; very two-sided. This is just outside speculation, I know some people like him just fine.

EC

YTS_jock · Post by **YTS_jock** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:10 pm

Well quickflight, you had better call for back up on this one because I think you are outnumbered. People can say what they want about unions, but they came about for a reason. It is so operators cant push pilots around. Flying is a small industry, and medevac is even smaller. I hope the stories i ehar arent true. You hear it once, u forget bout it, twice ...well prob a coincidence..... 3 times.... where there is smoke theres fire. But to be fair .... i dont care if there is a union or not, anybody can say NO when being pushed. We might have an exodus from our company.... but our guys arent goin sdieways. You are right, medevac flyin isnt foreveryone. Yeah you guys may make more money, but u certainly do work for it. So you know what, you can have your abv avg pay and fill yer saddle bag cowboy.

oldncold · Post by **oldncold** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:16 pm

talked to a senior 12 pee lot there last week

in total 11 or 12 pilots have left since jan between the 2 bases yel and yqt

5 from yel to jazz and georgian
6 from yqt to "the bear" airsprint and georgian
most of the yqt folks that left were co pilots from southern ont
had wives and homes there so made sense 1 capt has a newborn baby so he needed a predictable schedule .

there are 8 captains in yqt and 6 have bought homes or are in the process of buying a house. so the movement is going to slow down quick.

So the training has ramped up to meet the turnover alot of training he says. but overall a great crew working hard those that leave have there own agenda career wise or family commitments which can be hard to fulfill in medivac flying.

well from the frozen north and yk this week have fun and don't fur-get the engine tent winter is not over just yet

shimmydampner · Post by **shimmydampner** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:35 pm

PM me 001. Karma is a funny thing eh?

RFN · Post by **RFN** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:22 pm

oldncold: wait, aren't you the guy that got fired from Wasaya? After like 3 months? Oh maybe not. It might be you that flew all day with the engine plug in. Hard to say. You sure are credible though...

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