Severe Turbulence + Arctic Airports

[just curious]

Yeah, almost all the alternates for Res... Benthorn, the Mine, Rae Point... they're all gone.

[ScudRunner]

.. you are a classic, once I saw the words "Haines Junction" I just knew you would put a two paragraph response about all things Yukon, and as an added bonus the other resident Yukon expert, Rudder Bug, put his two cents in.
Remind us again, how long did you fly in the YT? 4 or 5 months. or was it TWO whole seasons.
206
P.S. All sarcasm aside, your pictures are awesome.
P.P.S. Dawson, in my humble opinion, has the trickiest winds in the Yukon sub-arctic.

Hi there I spent 3 seasons up there in the Yukon 2004-2006 all about 6 months Tours, previous to that I was in Pemberton and Inuvik. Awesome flying in the yukon, mostly flew the Islander to all the fun strips the Yukon has to offer. I would have stayed but I really wanted to try my hand at the IFR world. Once you get about 1200 hours in a BN2 you get a permanent ring in your ear and you get sick of rolling drums of fuel not to mention drill rod and core samples and pumping out of drums with the wobble pump, you want a change and the offer from Alkan to fly there 206 although more money I really wanted to try something new. I would have to say Rusty Springs or Delores Creek are the most challenging in the Yukon, Eagle plains can be interesting when she is really gusting,
Here's some vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P688Fp9tG1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ph6h2Un41w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJQzHH22xBs

[Cat Driver]

Nice.

[sky's the limit]

Dawson City is almost always a roller coaster with any wind

Agreed, and particularly when coming in for 20 can be interesting rock'n roll with a n/w breeze.

Interesting.

After a number of years living/flying there, I always figured YDA was one of the calmer places in Yukon.... The Jct is 100X worse, as is the Burwash area.

.. mentioned Deloris Cr, it's bad enough in an airplane, but go a little bit further up into the cirque on the right... THEN it's REALLY bad... Of course that's where the drilling always seems to be. Murphy and his damn laws!

stl

[bugspray]

Try Regal Ridge on a windy day

[ScudRunner]

Dawson City is almost always a roller coaster with any wind

Agreed, and particularly when coming in for 20 can be interesting rock'n roll with a n/w breeze.

Interesting.

After a number of years living/flying there, I always figured YDA was one of the calmer places in Yukon.... The Jct is 100X worse, as is the Burwash area.

.. mentioned Deloris Cr, it's bad enough in an airplane, but go a little bit further up into the cirque on the right... THEN it's REALLY bad... Of course that's where the drilling always seems to be. Murphy and his damn laws!

stl

Have to Agree STL, I never really thought YDA was all that bad. And yes When I saw where they planned to drill I couldnt believe it.

follow the ridge you can see the drill site right by the snow.
Here's another Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjn5vWZAmek

[Old Dog Flying]

Great pics Neil! Are you flying side sattle or right seat?

Barney

[ScudRunner]

Direct First Officer on the 727 lots of fun she makes a ton of noise and David Suzuki Cry's when calculating my Carbon "Boot" print, Funny that 2 years ago I had ZERO IFR and ZERO Turbine. Things move fast when you got PIC time out the yin yang.

[Rudder Bug]

and as an added bonus the other resident Yukon expert, Rudder Bug, put his two cents in.

Hello 206,

You're right, I only got the couple seasons you recall but it's better than nothing! I admit I've never been in Burwash, just came close to a trip but it was cancelled last minute. You're the one with the big wheels in Dawson aren't you?

True, I have more time in the Flat Lands and still require lots of planning when I occasinally have to hop a plane through the Rockies or Yukon.

I wish I could learn more about it from you when I'm around. If you're the one I think, I liked the way you handled that tiny tail dragger a couple years ago in Dawson.

Cheers

[C-206]

Rudder Bug, Nope not me.
.. and STL, to each their own, but I stand by my comments. Dawson much trickier then the SW Yukon for winds. As a matter of fact I'm pretty much opposite of you guys, I always found CYDB and the Junction, pretty straight forward, but what do I know.
C-206

[Cat Driver]

As far as winds go I found the Harmattan winds to be far more problem than any winds in Canada.

Not only can you not see anything and your engines will get wrecked by sand ingestion you can't even breath without covering your face with a cloth.

Makes the Yukon look like child's play.

[sky's the limit]

follow the ridge you can see the drill site right by the snow.

You mean this site?








Cat, I'd put the outflow from Klune Park up against almost anything once or twice a year... Dust picked up off the rivers and carried up to 10,000ft.... Not any worse, but comparable to many "bad" places.


stl

[Cat Driver]

yeh STL there can be really bad local conditions in many places that is for sure....but for pure hell the Harmattan is awsome because it comes up so fast and not only covers thousands of square miles of Northern Africa it even can spread dust and sand into Europe and for hundreds of miles out in the Atlantic.

When are you going to be in this area again...give me a call and we can have lunch together...I'll buy.

[scopiton]

..
what company where you working for upnorth ?

[sky's the limit]

He Cat,

I can only imagine what it looks like!

I may be coming through your neck of the woods in the next few weeks, heading out to Bute Inlet for four days tomorrow, but I WILL get there, I promise...!

stl

[Cat Driver]

I can only imagine what it looks like!

It is like an Arctic white out you can't see anything...except it is a light brown out due to the sand and dust.

Looking forward to buying you lunch.....but I'm going to NFLD for the first week of October.

[jamesbay]

Good ol' "VCJ", have a soft spot for that old girl, did my twin rating on that ship.