University of Western? or Seneca?

[Slappy the Squirrel]

I think Lurch is indicating that you claim to be in Grade 12, but are 20 years old. Which I guess is not entirely impossible, however unlikely.

But back to the topic I had a friend who went to UWO, but since the flight training didn't start til 2nd year he found himself not very motivated doing courses that had nothing to do with what he wanted to do for a living, he ended up quitting, went to college, and loved it. Not saying UWO is a bad way to go, but something to consider.

Plus remember their school colour is purple.

[Hedley]

Grade 12, but are 20 years old

Grade 12 is clearly the best 4 years (so far and counting) of his life!

[BoostedNihilist]

Your giving those of us with an education a bad name man, so just stop it now!

[SuperchargedRS]

No it's not a isolated incident, allot of people thinking getting a BS in BS = a better life, NOT REALLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDqboEt1tx0

[Ahonenty]

I suggest you go visit senneca and UWO and decide with campus and flight school feels right for you. After all you are going to drop about 400k after tuition, living, flying and opportunity cost of not working or getting a trade that pays you once you graduate.

UWO is a great experience. I loved my classes in which attendance isn't mandatory. The campus is great. The city London itself offers an incredible night life (richmond row is crazy).

The work load as far as the degree goes is really easy. Its the flying that challenges you. The best part about the CAM program is how strong the peer support is. My graduating class had 11 students. We all helped each other with notes and ... test tips. The faculty support is really strong too. I met with Dean Joan Finegan several times and she has got to be one of the sweetest nicest ladies. The faculty in charge of the program REALLY want you and the program to succeed

Picture this:
in a lecture room of about 500 students- Second year geography course the prof was asking the different students of different programs to stand up so he could survey the variety of students in his class.
He asked the students in psych to stand up. There were lots scattered throughout the room. Then he asked about math; again they stood up and there were quite a few. He ask the sciences, the geo students, the regular BMOS students; all scattered. Then, he asked the aviation students to stand up. We were all sitting in localized group because we all knew each other. When we stood up, we erupted in self applaud!
All the other faculty students were obviously thinking- man I wish I picked the CAM program - either that or - those students are a bunch of Ya(w)who's.
In most of our classes there were many people from the program. Always enough for study groups and friends to sit with.

BE WARNED: The flight school is **VERY** serious. You will learn right away to have flying time and work time
and then social time.

anyone thinking about the program can msg me with questions about anything- rez's, clubs, campus or city hot spots, course selection- prof's.

[mcrit]

Western; you are getting the same flight training as you will get at any other FTU. This means that your instructor is most likely going to be a newly minted CPL themselves, or best case scenario they were laid off from a small charter operator and have some time driving a Cheyene. You have to bear in mind that the FTU that Western uses pays their flying instructors as flying instructors; which is to say not very well.
Seneca; Last I checked, had a lot of retired military guys kicking around, along with some very experienced civilian guys. They pay their instructors as college instructors; which is to say quite well, and with benefits. All other things aside, you are going to have better instructors at Seneca.
Confed; Last I checked, they had a lot of old time bush pilots teaching there. I believe that they consider the flying instructors as college staff and pay them accordingly (which explains why they are able to get good staff).
As someone previously mentioned, I've never met a Confed grad that wasn't impressive.

[Ahonenty]

Flight instructors at DFC are not paid as regular flight instructors. They are on salary. The instructor at DFC that taught me flew an RJ in the states before he was laid off.
DFC has several class 1's. But like every flight school should have, there are also several class 4's. This is absolutely crucial for the growth of the industry and progression of entry level pilots. Your point is moot, and erroneous.
"Damnit, why didn't I concure!"

[mcopolo]

If you guys think I am lying..that is alright...

When I get accepted to UWO CAM..hopefully...I will come back here and laugh....

And yes...I was a drop out before...u got a problem with that?

and hedley..are u holding a grudge against me?

Is funny how I am trying to be friendly and just giving a opinion on a question, and I DID apologized for anything I said...yet I still get flamed..what kind of forum is this?

[Slappy the Squirrel]

Avcanada

[mcopolo]

Avcanada

yup..Avcanada....with people having moodswings everyday...

Bottom Line to Ashbringer:

No matter what you do, just get a back up plan. Don't put all your resources into just taking flight lessons. If you are really into planes, then get a degree in Aerospace or something from Ryerson.

If you really think college is an other way out...then go for it....

Hope I can meet u in person next year at UWO CAM...

[mcrit]

Flight instructors at DFC are not paid as regular flight instructors. They are on salary.

That's nice. If the salary that DFC pays these guys is the same one they quoted me, then it is well short of what a professor at the Colleges makes. They just do not have the money to attract the depth of experience that can be found in other instructional staffs.

"Damnit, why didn't I concure!"

If nothing else, UWO seems to produce some creative spellers.

[Ahonenty]

it was a quote the guy must of said it wrong or something...

[Ashbringer]

Some good information for Western. Are there any Seneca students or grads that can share their thoughts and experience in the program?
Regards,
Ashbringer

[MCB]

Just finishing up second year at Seneca now. Academics can be pretty challenging at times, but manageable if you keep on top of things. On the flightline side of things, the program is pretty solid too. Currently a great set of instructors, good fleet, not sure what else to say hahah. If I had to make the choice again, I'd probably still pick Seneca (based on my experience here and what I've heard/seen at other flight schools/colleges)

Any specific questions - shoot me a PM

MCB

[shinysuitman]

Well if you don't want to go to Western, I'd be happy to have your spot.

[Ashbringer]

Any Seneca students out there willing to sell their first year textbooks? I'm entering first year and need them of course.

[Boeing boy]

My impression of the flight colleges is that you'll get an expensive (but well trained) CPL, and some assorted bits of paper that say 'Business Management' on them, but really don't amount to much. If you want to get a business degree, then go to a proper University and get one, and then do your flight training afterwards..

My $.02.

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[ToFlyIsDivine]

its good to see that people are directing hatred in post as opposed to mine....lol....

i believe that every one has their point....

It actually all depends on your ULTIMATE GOAL....as one fellow said...

Let's use some examples....

At CAM we actually had a Lufthansa captain that came to study with us for a term....and who is currently studying at EBS (European Business School) in their aviation management program...now you may ask why a pilot would go and study in a business aviation management program at a university.....well......it turns out the captain has some health concerns and can no longer fly as a pilot....so a university degree is useful in this capacity....because you never know what the future holds for you....touch wood....the degree allows you to move on to other parts of the aviation business....airports, customer service, finance....etc....

Another example would be, as the aviation industry becomes more academically focused....(as you can see pilots requiring degrees to get a job at an airline....)...you may see that the VP's, CP's etc...etc... are going to individuals who have a university degree in aviation....and this is for the flight ops department of course....so if those are your goals....to one day potentially become a chief pilot or a vp of flight ops....then you may want to consider getting a degree.....

of course i haven't been in the industry long....so let the hating on me begin.....