Superior Airways Ramp Job

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Re: Superior Airways Ramp Job

Post by flyinthebug »

Gorgons...Its obvious you feel very passionately about this, so anything i say isnt likely going to change your mind. I will just say this... Ive been a senior manager for 2 top 10 Canadian Airlines, and CP and Ops Mgr at 2 other smaller air services in a 17 yr career thus far. In the two larger ones, we used ramp positions to see who was suited for our op and who wasnt. Being a ramp attendant is an opportunity for the employee to check out the employer and visa versa. The ramp isnt for everyone, but it is a solid and definate way to the cockpit. At one larger airline we always had 3 rampies at our one base. If they did their job and didnt whine (too much) about it, they were always put in line for the next seat available. If they whine and complain about it, they likely arent going to make it to my team.

Its safe to assume you do not like Ice Pilots NWT, as they use poor helpless kids to do all their grunt work for little pay and use the "carrot" to keep it all rolling. Those bastards! The bottom line is if you work hard as a rampie, you WILL make it to the cockpit. If you whine and complain through the whole process, you`ll likely be stuck on the ramp until you learn how it works(Jeremy Ice Pilots NWT is a prime example). Many of todays airlines use the ramp as a place to assess new hires and see where their heart is. No, we dont promise a seat, but we feel you guys and gals are smart enough to figure out that if you give us a strong commitment on the ground, we will return the commitment to you in the air. Ive NEVER seen a ramp worker be left behind, because he or she worked too hard. For me personally, if someone has worked the ramp for me for 3 months and done a good job, i`ll have no hesitation in promoting him or her to the cockpit. That then opens a new spot on the ramp for the next pilot in line. The whole process works well and thats why its still used to this day by so many ops.

Ill be sure to chastize MM for his poorly worded ad and ensure he doesnt do it again. :rolleyes:

I sincerely hope you are past this stage of your career..because you wont stand much of a chance with this type of attitude. We ALL pay our dues..and I paid mine in YRL and a few other less then choice places to be based. My 1st position was a flying position-dock hand position. When I wasnt flying, I was building outhouses, docks, loading the -3 and whatever other menial tasks they asked of me. I left with 350 hours experience on floats, a good understanding of how to load a DC3, and a DHC3, a letter of recommendation, and some lifelong friends. All on .26 cents per SM and NO base. 3 yrs later I got my 1st Chief Pilot position and onward and upward from there. Im speaking from experience when I say that paying your dues on the ramp is an honourable way to make it to the flight deck.

Fly safe all.
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Re: Superior Airways Ramp Job

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I have never stated pilots should be hired for ramp jobs. Quite the opposite. In the same breath, I don't get all the pissing and moaning about this particular job posting? It quite clearly states "ramp worker", but the need for an IFR and a multi rating are, at least a little, misleading. Most of you can read the King's English. If you want to work a ramp, apply. If not, don't. This is not that tough to understand children.
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