Lie about race???

[Les Habitants]

Lol, besides, it's Wasaya. I'd lie in order NOT to work there. They're a losing money company right now, soon to be bought out by EIC

[P180]

P180: My son got the same responce when he applied for a job with Canada Border Services...White..Male...Canadian...piss off we're only hiring female immigrants!

You got that right born and rised in Canada but we hirer only immigrants, but Canada is going to pay someday and the government will blame Canadians..

[AUGER9]

You guys make it sound like white males have it so hard in this country...

[P180]

You guys make it sound like white males have it so hard in this country...

White males in this country come scond.Can,t you read

[spartacus]

ugh. can't you spell? it's no wonder the RCMP wanted nothing to do with the fruit of your loins if he is as awesome at spelling as his old man. lol.

and yes, the poor poor white male.
so hard done by.

[Doc]

Lol, besides, it's Wasaya. I'd lie in order NOT to work there. They're a losing money company right now, soon to be bought out by EIC

Come ON! They're an "essential service"! Just ask their union. If they shut down, all the folks living on the reserves would roll over and die!

[System Message]

No worries, they discriminate against black people too.

The dispute stems from the fact that some wealthy Cherokee owned black slaves who worked on their plantations in the South. By the 1830s, most of the tribe was forced to relocate to present-day Oklahoma, and many took their slaves with them. The so-called Freedmen are descendants of those slaves.

After the Civil War, in which the Cherokee fought for the South, a treaty was signed in 1866 guaranteeing tribal citizenship for the freed slaves.

The U.S. government said that the 1866 treaty between the Cherokee tribe and the U.S. government guaranteed that the slaves were tribal citizens, whether or not they had a Cherokee blood relation.

.The African Americans lost their citizenship last month when the Cherokee Supreme Court voted to support the right of tribal members to change the tribe's constitution on citizenship matters.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44516027/ns ... nCthk_VRSc

[AaronP]

I wonder what kind of reaction an ad would get if it said 'white applicants are preferred'?

[Les Habitants]

I wonder what kind of reaction an ad would get if it said 'white applicants are preferred'?

Well THATS racist! It discriminates against Oompa Loompas and Orangutans. As a proud member of the former, I object!

[Carrier]

Quote: "I would rather work for a company that was upfront with any preferential hiring practices......"

How can anyone know the discrimination will be limited to only hiring practices? This is a company that openly discriminates on the basis of race and is not ashamed to admit it. Will they also be using race to discriminate on pay, promotions, layoffs, duties, etc? Once they start down the slippery slope of institutionalised racism there is no knowing how far it will go. What else do they also discriminate on? eg gender, sexual orientation, age, home language, country of origin, various physical attributes, etc.

Canada complained loudly about this in South Africa. It is hypocritical and two-faced of Canada to now engage in the same. All Canadian citizens should be treated equally as CANADIANS with the same rights, duties, responsibilities, taxes and benefits as all others and with these applied on an INDIVIDUAL basis and not as part of some sort of group, particularly a race. So-called affirmative action is no excuse as anybody with a decent upbringing would have learned by about age four that two wrongs do not make a right.

Please join me in saying "NO!" to racism by letting your political representatives know that Canada's version of apartheid is no more acceptable than anyone else's. Actions such as those by the company concerned should be banned and companies who persist with them should be shut down and the responsible officers and directors suitably punished.

[trey kule]

I have to agree with you Carrier, though my meaning was not quite what your post would seem... Having worked for companies and seen qualified pilots not get hired because there was a hidden...."we only hire Plus 30 year old pilots who are unilingual...."How many unilingual english pilots is Air Canada hiring these days.
I just felt that this was at least right upfront.
But on giving it some thought you are right.....It should not be allowed.
I see pretty much every new government job going to minorities and it is a bit hard to believe that only they are qualified. Particualrily when the person at the post office cannot communicate with me in either of the official languages.

[flying4dollars]

I don't know if I'd call their ad discriminatory. If they had said "Accepting resumes from First Nations people only", then I would agree. They are just preferring to hire locals. There are companies that advertise preference given to those from the province, and I haven't heard anyone complain about that. This isn't much different is it?

I've always understood that being a member of a visible minority scores higher on the AC/WJ matrix. If this is infact true, it's no different than Wasaya advertising preference to members of their own community. It still states they want to hire the best person qualified, so assuming they do, then don't worry too much about the rest.

[SuperchargedRS]

Quote: "I would rather work for a company that was upfront with any preferential hiring practices......"

How can anyone know the discrimination will be limited to only hiring practices? This is a company that openly discriminates on the basis of race and is not ashamed to admit it. Will they also be using race to discriminate on pay, promotions, layoffs, duties, etc? Once they start down the slippery slope of institutionalised racism there is no knowing how far it will go. What else do they also discriminate on? eg gender, sexual orientation, age, home language, country of origin, various physical attributes, etc.

Canada complained loudly about this in South Africa. It is hypocritical and two-faced of Canada to now engage in the same. All Canadian citizens should be treated equally as CANADIANS with the same rights, duties, responsibilities, taxes and benefits as all others and with these applied on an INDIVIDUAL basis and not as part of some sort of group, particularly a race. So-called affirmative action is no excuse as anybody with a decent upbringing would have learned by about age four that two wrongs do not make a right.

Please join me in saying "NO!" to racism by letting your political representatives know that Canada's version of apartheid is no more acceptable than anyone else's. Actions such as those by the company concerned should be banned and companies who persist with them should be shut down and the responsible officers and directors suitably punished.

+1

……I've always understood that being a member of a visible minority scores higher on the AC/WJ matrix. If this is infact true, it's no different than Wasaya advertising preference to members of their own community..

So AC & WJ dictate to society what is right and wrong?

[bandaid]

I would tend to agree with JC here, it is likely a government grant funding thing they have for training. We see things like this in a lot of industries for instance hiring a recent university grad under a grant. My wife's company has done this numerous times. So right in there advertisement for hiring is the "must be a recent university grad". Does that make it as bad as what we are talking about here? Seems similar, just the race card is not there.
Be very careful not to let this thread turn into a racial hate thing. There are a few comments here that a walking a very fine line.
As to the topic of the thread. The main trouble with lying at any time is that you have to remember whom you lied to and about what. It will come back to bite you in the ass and it will not look good on your employment record. Your next interview, "why were you let go at the last job?" what do you do here, lie again?

[flying4dollars]

……I've always understood that being a member of a visible minority scores higher on the AC/WJ matrix. If this is infact true, it's no different than Wasaya advertising preference to members of their own community..

So AC & WJ dictate to society what is right and wrong?

I never said that. My point was, nobody seems to be making noise about that, or that certain companies (nameless) have advertised their preference to hire provincial locals. So why make a stink about this? What's the difference? They aren't advertising that they will only consider a certain group.

[SuperchargedRS]

Be very careful not to let this thread turn into a racial hate thing. There are a few comments here that a walking a very fine line.

Huh? I must have missed those posts,

I thought we are talking about racist hiring practices in Canada, where one race is excluded/hired for no other reason then their race, by talking about this I believe everyone on this thread is trying bring focus to this problem and would like to REMOVE racial preference, racial hate, racial etc. from Canada

I never said that. My point was, nobody seems to be making noise about that, or that certain companies (nameless) have advertised their preference to hire provincial locals. So why make a stink about this? What's the difference? They aren't advertising that they will only consider a certain group.

I was pointing the finger at any and ALL companies have these practices, I just mentioned Wasaya first because I stumbled on that employment add first.

[flying4dollars]

Be very careful not to let this thread turn into a racial hate thing. There are a few comments here that a walking a very fine line.

Huh? I must have missed those posts,

I thought we are talking about racist hiring practices in Canada, where one race is excluded/hired for no other reason then their race, by talking about this I believe everyone on this thread is trying bring focus to this problem and would like to REMOVE racial preference, racial hate, racial etc. from Canada

I never said that. My point was, nobody seems to be making noise about that, or that certain companies (nameless) have advertised their preference to hire provincial locals. So why make a stink about this? What's the difference? They aren't advertising that they will only consider a certain group.

I was pointing the finger at any and ALL companies have these practices, I just mentioned Wasaya first because I stumbled on that employment add first.

Sry, when I said "so why make a stink about this", I meant in general. I wasn't solely directing that at you.

[+TSRAGR]

Navcanada has the same policy posted on their website.

[AUGER9]

Navcanada has the same policy posted on their website.

Bearskin has something similar as well. People here only like to pick on Wasaya though...

[2R]

Racism has been enshrined in the Canadian constitution so get used to it.
Read it and weep

[Grey_Wolf]

Navcanada has the same policy posted on their website. Bearskin has something similar as well. People here only like to pick on Wasaya though...

Yup to the tune of:

"Bearskin Airlines is an equal opportunity employer that encourages applications from designated group members (women, visible minorities, persons with disabilities, aboriginal people). All hiring is done in accordance with our Employment Equity goals."

&

"NAV CANADA is committed to building an inclusive, barrier-free workplace, and encourages women, members of a visible minority group, Aboriginal persons, and persons with disabilities to apply."

[Sea2Sky]

White males in this country come scond.Can,t you read

...ennnd unuthr siinngg.... lhiccup]

[human garbage]

and yes, the poor poor white male.
so hard done by.

I recommend 'The Redneck Manifesto' by Jim Goad as a read. Not all whiteys come from privilege or power as the photo you posted seems to suggest.

Many Europeans arrived in the New World as 'indentured servants' (which is just a slave for a set period of time). There was a funny quote in the Manifesto from a book written in the 1800s. The writer asked a Steamboat Captain why the Irish were doing all the dangerous jobs instead of the Black slaves. His reply was 'the blacks cost money, but no one cares if an Irishman dies'. Knowing an indentured servant would eventually leave meant that there was less motivation to keep them alive. They would be gone either way...

Back on topic, I would never lie about race on an application. Then again I would never apply for a job that specifically made race a criteria either.

[x15]

I worked for a company that was Natively owned. Whenever a spot came up they looked for a qualified person from the native community. 95 percent if not more of that company was NOT native. Because they simply do not have the required skill set (No license cannot fly airplanes) That did not stop the company from doing what it was told to do by the owners. Which was look for native people.

Sometimes companies are required to advertise that way for a reason other than what is obvious. That doesn't mean that they are not going to take the most qualified person regardless of race.