Occupy Wall Street? Nutbars.

[Colonel Sanders]

I have no problem with greed - it motivates people to be productive.

However I do have a problem with fraud, theft and extortion.

[The Old Fogducker]

Here's another interesting interview with a dork that thinks he should have his college tuition paid .... because after all, those billionaires have lots of money.


http://www.breitbart.tv/occupywallstree ... at-i-want/

[Nark]

The US Govt is paying my tuition and a little extra for books.

Mind you, some might say I paid for it though...

[. ._]

Here's another interesting interview with a dork that thinks he should have his college tuition paid .... because after all, those billionaires have lots of money.


http://www.breitbart.tv/occupywallstree ... at-i-want/

I think all tuition should be free. I mean, we have it until the end of high school. What makes grade 12 the arbitrary cutoff grade?

Of course, they'd have to tighten up the curriculum a lot. Google has taught me more than all of the university and college courses I took.

Hey, the kid is on the right track, IMHO, even though he doesn't know where he is.

I also like how he's exercising his right to free speech. If you don't use it, you lose it.

[short bus]

grade school isn't free. come on man you know better then that

[Colonel Sanders]

istp is asserting that his parents never paid any tax, and neither has he. Impressive!

[The Old Fogducker]

More info on these mobsters ...

http://www.breitbart.tv/ann-coulter-wal ... tarianism/

That slob Michael Moore's take on all this ..... I have to compliment the protestor who craps on the police car .... quite a talent to be able to crap standing up and more or less aim where the projectile goes ... http://www.breitbart.tv/defecate-wall-s ... -nypd-car/

Just in case Rockie thinks I never listen to the other side of matters like this, lets explore the world of MSNBC and the Rachel Madcow show where "she" interviews comedian Bill Maher http://www.breitbart.tv/maddow-maher-ad ... -violence/

Then another comedy series participant, Roseanne Barr demonstrates her ability to get things done ... http://youtu.be/X5Zyz8njQb8

[Rockie]

Your hatred and prejudice completely shuts down the critical thinking part of your brain Foggy. You're doomed to spend the rest of your life out beyond the far right fringe with your extremist friends at Fox News and SunTV.

[The Old Fogducker]

Thanks Rockie .... I always like to start the day with a good belly laugh.

Here's another one .... Roseanne vs Ted Nugent .... more "hate speech" Rockie?

"The 99%" are 99% stunned and if they were wildlife, would end up as first season roadkill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BomWbtXW ... re=related


Oscar Fox Delta

[Rockie]

"The 99%" are 99% stunned and if they were wildlife, would end up as first season roadkill.

Which group do you belong to? The 99 or the 1?

[The Old Fogducker]

I'd be driving Rockie .... also, something I've been menaing to mention ... the word "hate" is starting to creep into more and more of your posts as if you're fully indoctrinated into the "PC Speak" methods of communication .... for the record, I hate no person.

Foggy

[Colonel Sanders]

But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're going through

[Sulako]

OFD, why hasn't a single banker gone to jail for the massive fraud perpetuated by Wall Street? That's the real question that people are asking here. By ignoring their points and calling them names, you seek to divert attention from the real issue. Why is that?

[Rockie]

for the record, I hate no person.

My turn to belly laugh Foggy. You have hate spilling out your ears and vomiting out your mouth everytime you post here. You wake up every morning filled with bile.

If you can calm your rage long enough to gain some insight into why people are dissatisfied you should give this a read. And don't worry, I promise reading something from a university sociology department won't turn you into a raving mad socialist.

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesameri ... ealth.html

[Nark]

OFD, why hasn't a single banker gone to jail for the massive fraud perpetuated by Wall Street? That's the real question that people are asking here. By ignoring their points and calling them names, you seek to divert attention from the real issue. Why is that?

Who was Bernie Madoff?

The SEC has prosecuted many.

[sky's the limit]

OFD, why hasn't a single banker gone to jail for the massive fraud perpetuated by Wall Street? That's the real question that people are asking here. By ignoring their points and calling them names, you seek to divert attention from the real issue. Why is that?

Who was Bernie Madoff?

The SEC has prosecuted many.

And who were Bernie's main victims? Goes to follow...

The "system" is WAY broke, no gettting around it.

stl

[bmc]

"A man hears what he wants to hear, and disrtegards the rest"

- Art Garfunkel (The Boxer)

[Beefitarian]

Roseanne vs Ted Nugent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BomWbtXW ... re=related

It was refreshing to see Ted being rational again. His stage banter during shows the last few years has been way over the top. It's nice to see it's mostly to wind up the crowd.

Roseanne was well spoken also, especially considering how opposed they were.

[Nark]

Insider trading gets 11 years


As a once fond, former member of this site used to say:

Sympathy is a word between Shit and Syphilis in my dictionary.

[niss]

Thursday sentenced Galleon hedge fund founder Raj Rajaratnam to 11 years in prison.

It was the stiffest sentence ever given for trading in the stock market using confidential corporate information.

The worst anyone has gotten for that kind of crime is now 11 years, most get far less, if at all.

[Sulako]

https://plus.google.com/107196172964000 ... 5VwYW92oqn

Why 'Occupy Wall Street' Is Intensely Pro-Capitalist and Pro-American

Over the last several days, there has been a lot of talk about OWS being socialist, un-American and about 're-distribution of wealth'. Nothing could be further from the truth.

In a capitalist system, if you make a product or service the world finds of value, you are rewarded. Sometimes, you are even rewarded with an obscene amount of money. As you should be: this is what God intended when he invented capitalism and opened the stock market on the 8th day. If you are Steve Jobs and you make insanely great products, everyone runs out and buys every newer, smaller, more awesome version.

However.

If you suck, or you operate your business like a fool, or you're just plain unlucky timing-wise, you are rewarded with going out of business. Every single Internet entrepreneur knows this. In fact, we personally all know people who've lost companies or sold them for crappy valuations: I lost a company myself back in the crash of 2000.

Again, God looked down, and lo! He saw even this was good. All Internet entrepreneurs would also (eventually) say this is a good thing: you get your head snapped back, you learn about business and yourself. You come back twice as smart. The market benefits eventually with renewed strength: everyone actually prospers in the end.

But in 2008, when the banks failed, this did not happen.

The banks -- who either ran their businesses like fools, or who intentionally created a bubble (and if this is true, I would go so far as to suggest this may be labelled Financial Treason, since they hurt America on an epic scale with full knowledge of what they were doing -- and didn't care) -- the banks should have gone down in bankruptcy. Their assets should have been sold in auction, and a thousand new creative business opportunities would have been created. Startup people from the Internet world would have descended on the carcass of Wall Street with insanely amazing ideas.

In a proper capitalist system, this is what would have happened. And we all would have benefitted! Even the idiots at Goldman Sachs, etc. who got us here: some self-reflection would have done them good.

However.

The state stepped in. The state funded the banks with our money, yours and mine. A full 20% of the valuation of the United States of America was annihilated by these morons, and we simply funded them back up from the Treasury (actually worse: from the non-federal Federal Reserve -- which I won't even get into here).

You know what that's called?

Socialism. The fusion of the state and corporation is called Socialism. And this is what OWS objects to. That's what they are angry about.

(One of the best comments I read on this is 'Capitalism without the possible consequence of bankruptcy is like Christianity without Hell.')

Some argue that the banks were 'too big to fail'. I say that's bullshit, but let's let that stand for now. When an Internet company is on its last legs, and is almost dead, they do generally have at least some options. They can raise additional capital, but usually at egregious terms: the new investors want to wipe out the old investors percentage-wise, they want 2-5x liquidation preferences, they want control of the Board, etc.

And the almost-dead company has to accept these terms: they have their hat in their hand and have no choice.

This is where the banks were in 2008. Except: we never forced terms like this on them. We should have. That's what you do in Capitalism.

As American Citizens, and bailers-out-of-the-banks, you and I should have had pro rata stock shares in every bailed out bank. You and I should have pro rata dividends that come to us quarterly, it should not go into the pockets of the bankers as immense bonuses. And you and I should have pro rata voting rights on Board issues.

You want to be too big to fail? Fine: here's the term sheet from the American People, who are now forced to be venture capitalists and should at least reap the rewards of investment.

Yes, our terms are egregious. But We, The People are saving your stupid asses from bankruptcy.

That is called Capitalism. We didn't see that happen with the banks. Instead: we saw socialism happen, we saw redistribution of wealth alright: we saw the bankers get our money! (And for those of you who argue the banks paid it all back you're wrong; and even if they did, the Fed printing more money in massive quantities creates inflation which effectively robs us as well).

The State did not do its job. The State did not protect We, The People. Instead, it protected the corporations at the expense of the people.

And we know it happened, and we're pissed off. And we don't believe that anything has actually changed, and we seem to be powerless through our existing political system to do anything about it: both Democrats and Republicans are on their side, not ours, so even voting doesn't matter like it should in a real democracy. We can't vote on who runs the Federal Reserve (hint: he's ex Goldman Sachs, so who do you think he sides with?)

That is what OWS is really all about. It's about true democracy, true capitalism, and America.

[Shiny Side Up]

[Canuck223]

So protesting is only a good thing if you are an oppressed Arab, or a Tea Partier.....got it..

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. I don't begrudge anyone making a reasoned stand.

However, I can't help but note that if these people put the same amount of effort and fervour into working, they might find thier list of grievances was considerably shorter.

[Rockie]

However, I can't help but note that if these people put the same amount of effort and fervour into working, they might find thier list of grievances was considerably shorter.

What makes you think they don't put the same amount of effort and fervour into working?

[The Old Fogducker]

Now here's a litte advice from the brain trust that is promoting this rabble..... "Occupy Wall Street Needs a Kent State Moment."

MSNBC is the home of the loons .... it is after all, migratory bird season and the Central Flyway is loaded.

OFD


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... oment.html