Flight instruction out of own aircraft

[Bede]

There are no grey areas of the CARs

The CARs say what you cannot do.

If you are doing something which is not specifically
Prohibited by the CARs it is therefore legal
Modulo CAR 602.01.

That is really bad advice. Courts and administrative tribunals give very broad interpretation to regulations designed to protect the public interest, which the CAR's are. In addition, courts frown upon regulatory avoidance schemes and generally shut them down. Even though some schemes meets the letter of the law, it does not meet the spirit of the law.

I could provide a plethora of case law on this, but I don't have time. For a quick example off the top of my head, think of the recent case before the SCC on the charitable trust scheme where you got a tax return which was greater than charitable contribution.

Stopbar - when was the last time you personally tried
To obtain an FTU OC?

It took me SIX F__KING YEARS to get an MCM approved
For an FTU that did NOT have an AMO and thus did NO
MAINTENANCE.

I hate to be a jerk, but it could be because of your understanding about the CAR's and how they're applied. I applied for an FTU OC once and had the OC in hand 4-6 weeks after my application. If there's nothing wrong with your MCM, it should only take your PMI a few weeks to approve. BTW, we had a PMI with a reputation for being a jerk.

For the OP: What you are proposing has been tried before and has been held to contravene the CAR's. What you could do though is not be part of the ownership group.

[Shiny Side Up]

I hate to be a jerk, but it could be because of your understanding about the CAR's and how they're applied. I applied for an FTU OC once and had the OC in hand 4-6 weeks after my application.

You would be the exception then rather than the rule. Our MCM's approval (again without an AMO) was tied up for at least 3 years. Because of the insanity I have I've been considering the process again, and was recently quoted a minimum of 6 months to get approval for a FTUOC under the assumption that I had every duck in a row. Oddly enough I've been told, though I don't know how much truth there is to it, that its eaier to get your MCM approved if you do have an AMO than if you don't, small consolation it may be to the Colonel.

[Airtids]

Personal experience: FTU/702/703 OC 3 months with MCM. AMO 2 months. You have to work WITH these people...

For the OP- Bede has it right. You could try it, but good luck.

[Colonel Sanders]

Bede - I wished I lived in your world where everyone at TC was a hard-working sweetheart and the government only did good things. A wonderful world of lollipops, rainbows and unicorns.

Over a decade ago TC decided I was a Bad Boy - right or wrong - and I'm afraid that no amount of sunshine that I blow up their @sses will ever change that.

So be it.

[Cat Driver]

I'm with the colonel.

Fu.k em, life is to short to bend over to unacountable government thugs.

I guess like the colonel I'm a bad boy also.

[robertsailor1]

You guys are too old to be bad boys

[Shiny Side Up]

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[Colonel Sanders]

Vindication for all you proud @ss kissers out there:

http://life.nationalpost.com/2012/03/10 ... okers-hut/

The paper itself is a statistical nightmare, filled with survey and sample data of dubious value, but the professors were confident they had reached solid conclusions: “Findings show that top managers who engage in ingratiating behaviour toward their CEO, with ingratiation comprising flattery, opinion conformity and favour rendering, will be more likely to receive board appointments at other firms where the CEO serves as a director.”

So much for corporate governance theories. Buttering up the CEO, acting as a yes-man, doing favours — all apparently succeed. Ingratiation, said the study, is especially effective for white men who lack educational and social credentials and for female and ethic minorities.

So all you @ss-kissers - I'm not saying you're wrong. I just admire your ability to get
used to the taste. Heck, maybe you like it!

No brown tongue here,

[Bede]

It's not that I have never seen laziness from our regulator, but I know how to play the game. I've set up two FTU's and got IFR on a 703 OC and have had far less hassle than some of the posters on this board.

Why is is that an airline can be set up in 1-2 years and an FTU takes the same amount of time? It is because airline folks know how the process works.

[Airtids]

So all you @ss-kissers - I'm not saying you're wrong. I just admire your ability to get
used to the taste. Heck, maybe you like it!

No brown tongue here,

Sorry your experience was so bad. You don't have to kiss a$$ to be successful in this industry, you just have to know the rules, and play the game within those rules. Pretty simple, really...