Transwest Ramp vs Perimeter Ramp

[KenoraPilot]

I'd vote Perimeter whole heartedly!

[SirCanadianBacon]

I'd vote Perimeter whole heartedly!

Thanks for the advice (and for keeping on topic!!). Also, thanks to everyone else that gave advice! Just to let you guys know, I've decided to go with Perimeter. It seems like a good company despite the long wait times. Thanks again to everyone!

[ogc]

As long as the movement stays steady and you are willing to take a thompson flying spot wait time on the ground can be less than a year.

[Jack In The Box]

I don't understand this whole thing of "perimeter is great because you get a number..."

Maybe you people should wake up and smell the coffee. Do you realize the ramp list here is saturated with guys who have been washed out (as many as 60% that go through initial training at times) due in no small part to this attitude of "ill do my time and get flight line."

If you want to work at perimeter, it's a fine starting job. If you expect to just come here and wait till your number comes up, turn around and walk the other way. Or better yet, please provide me with your contact info so that I can tell HR NOT to hire you. We have plenty of dead weight on the ramp here just waiting for their turn to fly (imagine their surprise when a lot of them get washed out. "What? But I put in my two years!").

If you want to work hard and earn your spot, come on over. It's not perfect, but there are plenty of good times to go around. Don't expect a flight line position just because you get a ramp seniority number. And I'm not saying that because poor work ethics drive me up the wall, I'm saying that as a warning not to come here expecting a guarenteed flying job because that is just not the way it works here anymore.

[SirCanadianBacon]

I don't understand this whole thing of "perimeter is great because you get a number..."

Maybe you people should wake up and smell the coffee. Do you realize the ramp list here is saturated with guys who have been washed out (as many as 60% that go through initial training at times) due in no small part to this attitude of "ill do my time and get flight line."

If you want to work at perimeter, it's a fine starting job. If you expect to just come here and wait till your number comes up, turn around and walk the other way. Or better yet, please provide me with your contact info so that I can tell HR NOT to hire you. We have plenty of dead weight on the ramp here just waiting for their turn to fly (imagine their surprise when a lot of them get washed out. "What? But I put in my two years!").

If you want to work hard and earn your spot, come on over. It's not perfect, but there are plenty of good times to go around. Don't expect a flight line position just because you get a ramp seniority number. And I'm not saying that because poor work ethics drive me up the wall, I'm saying that as a warning not to come here expecting a guarenteed flying job because that is just not the way it works here anymore.

I don't think anyone was suggesting that because you get a seniority number means that you can slack off on the job. Also, the fact that the sim eval and initial training is very difficult and must therefore be taken seriously has already been discussed here, as well as elsewhere on the forum. All anyone meant was that the seniority list is good because you know where you stand. That way the company can't just keep stringing you along. It also helps to eliminate favouritism. Yes, some people might try to take advantage of the seniority system, but like you said, those people tend to wash out. With all sincerity, I think you might just be reading too much into that statement.

[Jack In The Box]

I don't understand this whole thing of "perimeter is great because you get a number..."

Maybe you people should wake up and smell the coffee. Do you realize the ramp list here is saturated with guys who have been washed out (as many as 60% that go through initial training at times) due in no small part to this attitude of "ill do my time and get flight line."

If you want to work at perimeter, it's a fine starting job. If you expect to just come here and wait till your number comes up, turn around and walk the other way. Or better yet, please provide me with your contact info so that I can tell HR NOT to hire you. We have plenty of dead weight on the ramp here just waiting for their turn to fly (imagine their surprise when a lot of them get washed out. "What? But I put in my two years!").

If you want to work hard and earn your spot, come on over. It's not perfect, but there are plenty of good times to go around. Don't expect a flight line position just because you get a ramp seniority number. And I'm not saying that because poor work ethics drive me up the wall, I'm saying that as a warning not to come here expecting a guarenteed flying job because that is just not the way it works here anymore.

I don't think anyone was suggesting that because you get a seniority number means that you can slack off on the job. Also, the fact that the sim eval and initial training is very difficult and must therefore be taken seriously has already been discussed here, as well as elsewhere on the forum. All anyone meant was that the seniority list is good because you know where you stand. That way the company can't just keep stringing you along. It also helps to eliminate favouritism. Yes, some people might try to take advantage of the seniority system, but like you said, those people tend to wash out. With all sincerity, I think you might just be reading too much into that statement.

Yes you are absolutely correct, the seniority list IS a good system.

Respectfully, I do not agree that I am reading into the comment too much. Perhaps in this particular case the users making the comments may not mean anything by it, but I've personally seen that there is an entitlement attitude to almost everyone that comes through here or tries.

I'm not saying this to discourage you. I'm saying it to warn you, if you're already aware...great! With respect to other discussions that reference what I wrote above, that's great that you've read them. I personally, have not.

[Illya Kuryakin]

I don't understand this whole thing of "perimeter is great because you get a number..."

Maybe you people should wake up and smell the coffee. Do you realize the ramp list here is saturated with guys who have been washed out (as many as 60% that go through initial training at times) due in no small part to this attitude of "ill do my time and get flight line."

If you want to work at perimeter, it's a fine starting job. If you expect to just come here and wait till your number comes up, turn around and walk the other way. Or better yet, please provide me with your contact info so that I can tell HR NOT to hire you. We have plenty of dead weight on the ramp here just waiting for their turn to fly (imagine their surprise when a lot of them get washed out. "What? But I put in my two years!").

If you want to work hard and earn your spot, come on over. It's not perfect, but there are plenty of good times to go around. Don't expect a flight line position just because you get a ramp seniority number. And I'm not saying that because poor work ethics drive me up the wall, I'm saying that as a warning not to come here expecting a guarenteed flying job because that is just not the way it works here anymore.

Thanks for the post. A problem with young folks, is a sense of, for lack of a better term, entitlement. You attitude alone, or your perceived attitude can sink your ship. A ramp rat who doesn't see eye to eye with the wrong person can find themselves a career ramp worker. Keep this in mind. I've seen really nice kids have just this happen to them. You can't begin to imagine the back stabbing, bitch slapping game you've entered into.
Illya