Science-Based Alternative to Ease Quarantine Act Restrictions

[mixturerich]

How has this thread not been locked yet?

Because a new one will start and turn into the same thing anyways. Might as well keep this one going lol

Back to the original topic...Science-Based Alternatives...what we have seen is people arguing over the science, referencing multiple doctors who are contradicting each other. Seems we have some “science” claiming that lockdowns/restrictions are pointless, and other “science” claiming even more will be necessary. Who even knows anymore? This shit is exhausting!

[CPT.HarshColdReality]

No but wait. This is a fear I've had for a few months. No matter who ends up winning down there. I am scared for my country, I am scared for my fellow citizens, I am scared for my community, I am scared for my family and I am also terrified. This build up has been going on for a while and I easily see a full on civil war in the USA in the very near future. I am scared because Canada has ZERO capabilities to counter/contain the USA. They are armed to the teeth and outnumber us 10 to 1. This is not good for Canada at all!!!

[Blowin' In The Wind]

“... But we sure owned those libs!”

*rides Rascal scooter into the sunset*

[Inverted2]

No but wait. This is a fear I've had for a few months. No matter who ends up winning down there. I am scared for my country, I am scared for my fellow citizens, I am scared for my community, I am scared for my family and I am also terrified. This build up has been going on for a while and I easily see a full on civil war in the USA in the very near future. I am scared because Canada has ZERO capabilities to counter/contain the USA. They are armed to the teeth and outnumber us 10 to 1. This is not good for Canada at all!!!

I have a few friends and relatives down there. Everyone’s been buying up guns and hoarding ammo for quite a while now. The Antifa/BLM communists had better watch it. Sooner or later it’s gonna be game on! I wouldn’t be worried up here. The gun loving rednecks don’t want to invade snow Mexico.

[Rockie]

I have a few friends and relatives down there. Everyone’s been buying up guns and hoarding ammo for quite a while now. The Antifa/BLM communists had better watch it. Sooner or later it’s gonna be game on! I wouldn’t be worried up here. The gun loving rednecks don’t want to invade snow Mexico.

There’s nothing I or anybody else could say that better illustrates how totally fucked the US is. You are so fucking clueless.

[pelmet]

Folks, time to ignore the real child.....Rockie.

Here he was 4 years ago right after Trump won.....

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Post by Rockie » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:41 am

FOD wrote:
A cell phone and the "nuclear briefcase". That's your argument.

Yeah, that's my argument. A 12 year old has better self control than Trump.

Nuclear weapons FOD. Say it with me:

N-U-C-L-E-A-R W-E-A-P-O-N-S.

Well, after creating millions of jobs, bringing the unemployment rate to record low, creating hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs, building a wall, creating multiple peace agreements, re-equipping the military, taking on China, ending the ISIS caliphate which has resulted in no significant terrorist attacks in a long time, getting out of the stupidity of the Paris accord, and getting THREE supreme court justices to the bench among his many other accomplishments. No nuclear war yet. And now, rebuilding another great economy like he said he would last time after the world was sideswiped by a once in a century virus.

It is time to ignore the whining children and get 4 more years. That way we can 4 more years of entertainment from Rockie.

And then there is the third term.

[Inverted2]

I have a few friends and relatives down there. Everyone’s been buying up guns and hoarding ammo for quite a while now. The Antifa/BLM communists had better watch it. Sooner or later it’s gonna be game on! I wouldn’t be worried up here. The gun loving rednecks don’t want to invade snow Mexico.

There’s nothing I or anybody else could say that better illustrates how totally fucked the US is. You are so fucking clueless.

How am I clueless?

[Inverted2]

Here’s the video of his reaction 4 years ago:

Folks, time to ignore the real child.....Rockie.

Here he was 4 years ago right after Trump won.....

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Post by Rockie » Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:41 am

FOD wrote:
A cell phone and the "nuclear briefcase". That's your argument.

Yeah, that's my argument. A 12 year old has better self control than Trump.

Nuclear weapons FOD. Say it with me:

N-U-C-L-E-A-R W-E-A-P-O-N-S.

Well, after creating millions of jobs, bringing the unemployment rate to record low, creating hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs, building a wall, creating multiple peace agreements, re-equipping the military, taking on China, ending the ISIS caliphate which has resulted in no significant terrorist attacks in a long time, and getting THREE supreme court justices to the bench among his many other accomplishments. No nuclear war yet. And now, rebuilding another great economy like he said he would last time after the world was sideswiped by a once in a century virus.

It is time to ignore the whining children and get 4 more years. That way we can 4 more years of entertainment from Rockie.

And then there is the third term.

[Old fella]

Jesus H Christ..... this site is starting to resemble a Twitter feed of bots/trolls

[pelmet]

Rockie demands responses. He says it is all lies. But watch this video and tell me if there is one lie Rockie and at what point.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FXjY2omWLM

[Rockie]

Seriously Pelmet? It’s a 1:32:04 stream of bullshit and lies just like every time he opens his mouth. And you and millions more are on your knees with your bellies full and faces covered in it begging for more. It’s impossible for a thinking human being with any dignity to watch without being disgusted.

But I’ve stopped trying to convince people they belong to a cult. It can’t be done. Now I just want you to tell me how you think this is going to end given that most Americans do not belong to the cult and are intent on defending their country from it. How do you as a full on deranged member of the cult intend to force Trumps will on the rest of them, and do you think that will happen peacefully?

I’ve asked this question many times and none of you answer it. Does your brain glitch when you think about it? Is it too uncomfortable? Is it above your mental capacity to think beyond the immediate?

Give it a try Pelmet, inverted2, DH8classic and the rest of you. Try and imagine what a civil war looks like and then answer my question.

[JohnnyHotRocks]

It probably looks like the lootin’ and burnin’ we have seen by left wing groups...with the other side actually fighting back for once

[Rockie]

It probably looks like the lootin’ and burnin’ we have seen by left wing groups...with the other side actually fighting back for once

Flippant and thoughtless. Read about a former country named Yugoslavia, that should give you some indication. Take this seriously.

[pelmet]

It probably looks like the lootin’ and burnin’ we have seen by left wing groups...with the other side actually fighting back for once

Flippant and thoughtless. Read about a former country named Yugoslavia, that should give you some indication. Take this seriously.

Actually, he is 100% right. But it looks like when innocent people start defending themselves from the violent protesters destroying their businesses and whatever else the left have in store for them, those on the left will accuse those that you not reacted as the instigators.

No surprise.

We see that in Kenosha where a sex offender and two other violent offenders no doubt, out to destroy businesses(is the brownshirts of the left said to be peaceful) are lionized while a young kid is charged with murder for saving his life after having good intentions to protect a business.

[JohnnyHotRocks]

It probably looks like the lootin’ and burnin’ we have seen by left wing groups...with the other side actually fighting back for once

Flippant and thoughtless. Read about a former country named Yugoslavia, that should give you some indication. Take this seriously.

I am familiar...’tis the land of my parents

[Rockie]

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It probably looks like the lootin’ and burnin’ we have seen by left wing groups...with the other side actually fighting back for once

Flippant and thoughtless. Read about a former country named Yugoslavia, that should give you some indication. Take this seriously.
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I am familiar...’tis the land of my parents
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Then what’s your excuse for being so flippant about civil war? Did they tell you about people disappearing in the night? Destroyed cities? Mass graves filled with boys? Genocide? Do they fondly recount the great times they had running for their lives, filled with dread over missing relatives and wondering if they and their children will live to see tomorrow? This is the stuff Trump is literally promising if he loses the election, and it stands a very good chance of coming true but not for the reason he gives. He’s openly inciting it, and there are millions of fuckwits hanging off of every word. I’ll ask again...how do you see this ending?

Pelmet. Stop being a brainless cow and answer my question.

[AirFrame]

No nuclear war yet.

Why start a nuclear war when nature hands you a global pandemic instead? That was some major horseshoe action for Trump. It doesn't matter how the pandemic ends, he will always claim that he was responsible for making the outcome as good as it could be.

He always wants to be the "best" at everything, now there's even a movement for a second impeachment. He can be the first president in history to be impeached *twice* while in office. Sadly unlikely to get any further than the first attempt, but hey, he'll be the "best" at one more thing.

[pelmet]

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It probably looks like the lootin’ and burnin’ we have seen by left wing groups...with the other side actually fighting back for once

Pelmet. Stop being a brainless cow and answer my question.

Once again, to answer your question.

But it looks like when innocent people start defending themselves from the violent protesters destroying their businesses and whatever else the left have in store for them, those on the left will accuse those that you not reacted as the instigators.

No surprise.

We see that in Kenosha where a sex offender and two other violent offenders no doubt, out to destroy businesses(is the brownshirts of the left said to be peaceful) are lionized while a young kid is charged with murder for saving his life after having good intentions to protect a business.

We know that you think that an insult somehow makes you correct.

Your initiations of mass violence will lead to a civil war.

[JohnnyHotRocks]

I firmly believe that civil war will only happen if Harris-Biden lose. The Democrats have already stated they will not allow another Trump term regardless of whether or not he wins legitimately.

[montado]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoy ... e2adc4bc2d

The Washington Post reported that although the CDC updated its guidance to mention aerosols on Friday, it was not widely noticed until CNN reported on it Sunday.

Before Friday’s update, the CDC said large respiratory droplets (like from coughing or sneezing) at close range transmitted the virus, but now adds “small particles, such as those in aerosols” can infect people.

“There is growing evidence that droplets and airborne particles can remain suspended in the air and be breathed in by others, and travel distances beyond six feet,” the CDC now advises.

Poorly ventilated indoor spaces, like choir practices or fitness classes, can be particularly risky for virus transmission, the CDC’s guidance adds.

Scientists say the new CDC guidance is important because cloth masks aren’t designed to protect the wearer from aerosols.

The World Health Organization publicly addressed the threat of aerosols in July at the urging of hundreds of scientists, and according to the Post, it’s unclear why the CDC is following suit months later.


This is my opinion - > Nor do cloth masks filter aerosols from those who exhale into one
And its based on this research https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... 0pathogens.

But I'm glad all the pro maskers keep pushing the mask agenda. And to auxbats point that the mask protects other people, if aerosols escape your mask, and can move greater than 2 metres away and survive for over 3 hours suspended in the air, and masks also don't protect the person wearing a mask, then my question is how effective is a mask? People focus on droplets... How often does someone sneeze or cough on you when you are at the grocery store? That's probably all a mask is good for... It's about as good as someone coughing into their sleeve... The efficacy of masks is really limited... Good thing you can wear a mask and not social distance and you are "safe"

Edited for auxbaton

[pelmet]

No nuclear war yet.

Why start a nuclear war.......

Just proving the extreme over-reactions that destroy any credibility of the poster and the like.

Please ignore. And defend yourself from the mob out to destroy you because you disagree with them.

[pelmet]

When governments abdicate their responsibility to protect their citizens and their property, whether for political reasons(as has been the case in the US or whatever other reason, people will defend themselves and their fellow citizens.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/departme ... permitting

[AuxBatOn]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoy ... e2adc4bc2d

The Washington Post reported that although the CDC updated its guidance to mention aerosols on Friday, it was not widely noticed until CNN reported on it Sunday.

Before Friday’s update, the CDC said large respiratory droplets (like from coughing or sneezing) at close range transmitted the virus, but now adds “small particles, such as those in aerosols” can infect people.

“There is growing evidence that droplets and airborne particles can remain suspended in the air and be breathed in by others, and travel distances beyond six feet,” the CDC now advises.

Poorly ventilated indoor spaces, like choir practices or fitness classes, can be particularly risky for virus transmission, the CDC’s guidance adds.

Scientists say the new CDC guidance is important because cloth masks aren’t designed to protect the wearer from aerosols.

The World Health Organization publicly addressed the threat of aerosols in July at the urging of hundreds of scientists, and according to the Post, it’s unclear why the CDC is following suit months later.


Nor do cloth masks filter aerosols from those who exhale into one

But I'm glad all the pro maskers keep pushing the mask agenda.

1- Your second bolded quote is not part of the quoted article. It is your unsubstantiated opinion, Nice try at deception.
2- The fact that masks don’t protect the wearers has been known for a while. This is why, initially, governments were against them. But they do protect others from you.

[ayseven]

Just for clarity: the looting and burning is all happening under Trump's watch. Nobody else's.

[JohnnyHotRocks]

Just for clarity: the looting and burning is all happening under Trump's watch. Nobody else's.

And if the democratic governors allowed Trump to send in the Guard, these violent “protests” would likely end fairly quickly. Easy to blame Trump for everything that happens “on his watch” but as in Canada, there are different levels of government with opposing views and policies.