Truckers convoy

[WellThatAgedWell]

Your understanding of N95 certification is wrong. Respirators are measured and performance certified by the filtering protection they provide for the user, not others in the environment. Many respirators have exhalation valves.

Wear N95 for yourself if that's your thing.

They may not be rated for that purpose, yet they are still effective at doing so as long as they don't have exhalation valves. My masks do not have valves.

I will continue to wear my mask when I feel there is a risk to others. If there is not a serious amount of COVID or flu in the community, I will not be wearing a mask.

I will not ask you to do the same. This is my personal choice to take responsibility for the health of those around me.

Feelings aren’t science.

Do you not wear a seatbelt if you feel like you won’t get in an accident? You should seriously consider masking more often to stop Covid and not make feelings based judgments.

[Bingo Fuel]

Your understanding of N95 certification is wrong. Respirators are measured and performance certified by the filtering protection they provide for the user, not others in the environment. Many respirators have exhalation valves.

Wear N95 for yourself if that's your thing.

They may not be rated for that purpose, yet they are still effective at doing so as long as they don't have exhalation valves. My masks do not have valves.

I will continue to wear my mask when I feel there is a risk to others. If there is not a serious amount of COVID or flu in the community, I will not be wearing a mask.

I will not ask you to do the same. This is my personal choice to take responsibility for the health of those around me.

Feelings aren’t science.

Do you not wear a seatbelt if you feel like you won’t get in an accident? You should seriously consider masking more often to stop Covid and not make feelings based judgments.

My body my choice. It has no effect on you. I support getting rid of mandates.

Why shame me for my personal choices?

[WellThatAgedWell]

They may not be rated for that purpose, yet they are still effective at doing so as long as they don't have exhalation valves. My masks do not have valves.

I will continue to wear my mask when I feel there is a risk to others. If there is not a serious amount of COVID or flu in the community, I will not be wearing a mask.

I will not ask you to do the same. This is my personal choice to take responsibility for the health of those around me.

Feelings aren’t science.

Do you not wear a seatbelt if you feel like you won’t get in an accident? You should seriously consider masking more often to stop Covid and not make feelings based judgments.

My body my choice. It has no effect on you.

Why shame me for my personal choices?

Whhhaaaatttt? Are you kidding me? Wear a mask, you need to do that to protect other people! Your rights end where others begin and you aren't allowed to just spread disease and kill people!

Everyone I know is just following the "SOPs", I see very few people who don't mask. Even when flying I have only ran into a handful of pilots who don't want to wear a mask while flying. Usually its just a trump voter when you hear someone say "you don't care if I take off my mask do you". I instantly know that they have a MAGA hat in their bag and support trump.

You don't get a personal choice. Nice try. Also its so simple to wear a mask, I don't know why people even care. It keeps my face warm and hides my acne... I actually love wearing my mask.

[Bingo Fuel]

Even Dr. Tam, and many of her provincial counterparts says it's time to remove mandates. You win.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada ... -1.6339609

For the record, I remove my mask in the flight deck.

[WellThatAgedWell]

Even Dr. Tam, and many of her provincial counterparts says it's time to remove mandates. You win.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada ... -1.6339609

For the record, I remove my mask in the flight deck.

Nah, Wearing masks is easy, Tam has been wrong before so I don't see why we should trust a cbc article. CBC is not science. MSK4LYF is my new license plate. That way I can let everyone know how much I care about them and protecting them from the deadly pandemic.

Look at all those who agree with me!

I don't know (or frankly care) how effective people think they are. You presented evidence that they're effective. So you can stop arguing, and put on a mask, because now you know all those people who claimed that masks aren't effective, are wrong.

Thank you for doing your part.

"Mandating indoor masks nationwide in early July could have reduced the weekly number of new cases in Canada by 25 to 40 percent in mid-August, which translates into 700 to 1,100 fewer cases per week."

https://www.nber.org/system/files/worki ... w27891.pdf

Either way, all of them know more than you do. See the previous graph.

This is why it becomes a Risk Management decision, for those of use who are non-scientists.

And all of them know more than you. There are also laws made for people like you because you think it’s a risk management decision for you to make. It is not. You can’t be trusted with that decision so you have to be told. When you’re by yourself in the woods nobody cares what you do. When you’re around other people you do what the law tells you to do. It’s how society protects itself from you.

Seems pretty clear to me you should keep masking. Omicron is spreading fast and we need to keep mitigating that risk. Its unfortunate you don't wear a mask when you fly. Glad at least some people here have a head on their shoulders as you see in the above quotes.

[RoAF-Mig21]

... Its unfortunate you don't wear a mask when you fly. Glad at least some people here have a head on their shoulders as you see in the above quotes.

Sorry, what? You mean wear a mask while flying the aircraft?

We haven't done that since the pandemic started. We shut the flight deck door and remove our masks. Of course, as a courtesy you always ask the other guy or gal to see if he or she is okay with it. I've had one pilot said "You can do as you please, but I'm keeping my mask on". As a courtesy I kept it on as well, but it was very uncomfortable flying with it; though not unsafe (from an operational point of view). I used to do it flying medevacs (TB patients) and let me tell you, it wasn't fun either. Also as a side note, those masks were given to us after PROPER FITTING by the Aeromedical Flight Nurse Manager, not some cheap cloth you buy at Winners.

[Just another canuck]

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[Bingo Fuel]

... Its unfortunate you don't wear a mask when you fly. Glad at least some people here have a head on their shoulders as you see in the above quotes.

Sorry, what? You mean wear a mask while flying the aircraft?

We haven't done that since the pandemic started. We shut the flight deck door and remove our masks. Of course, as a courtesy you always ask the other guy or gal to see if he or she is okay with it. I've had one pilot said "You can do as you please, but I'm keeping my mask on". As a courtesy I kept it on as well, but it was very uncomfortable flying with it; though not unsafe (from an operational point of view). I used to do it flying medevacs (TB patients) and let me tell you, it wasn't fun either. Also as a side note, those masks were given to us after PROPER FITTING by the Aeromedical Flight Nurse Manager, not some cheap cloth you buy at Winners.

I think you missed the sarcasm in his posts.

He's been doing that ever since he was called Montado, or CYER Captain Pooping. Wonder how long this account will last.

[DanWEC]

Bingo Fuel, while we have differing personal opinions, an underlying commonality we share is that I strongly agree that it's your choice to govern YOURSELF the way you see fit based on your own values and criteria.

It's a shame and bafflingly ironic that people are jumping down your throat for advocating the very thing that they're trying to promote- individual freedom and choices.

All the best, I'll have your back anytime.

[Bingo Fuel]

Bingo Fuel, while we have differing personal opinions, an underlying commonality we share is that I strongly agree that it's your choice to govern YOURSELF the way you see fit based on your own values and criteria.

It's a shame and bafflingly ironic that people are jumping down your throat for advocating the very thing that they're trying to promote- individual freedom and choices.

All the best, I'll have your back anytime.

Thanks, I appreciate that! Same to you.

[TG]

They have their freeeeedom in Sweden no?
https://mobile.twitter.com/DFsuzgun/st ... 9_PJYFsAtM

50% of the trains canceled because of sickness
https://t.co/wdEnuvxliX

20% of all truck drivers out sick
https://mobile.twitter.com/DFsuzgun/sta ... 8077054978

Large grocery stores forced to shut down parts of their store because of staff shortages
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/tving ... ll-orsaken

Mail, fire, and sanitation services cancelled for entire towns because staff shortages
https://www.mitti.se/nyheter/sa-paverk ... BJmRx6TfA/

Regular people asked to fill in public service jobs
https://t.co/X3u2qrCRmf

60% loss of business for hotels
25% of prison staff out sick
10% of the police staff out sick
Schools force to shutdown because too many out sick
25% students out sick, 23% teachers out sick
Doctor and nurses asked to come back from quarantine because of staff shortages
70% of the nursing homes without basic oxygen resources
33% of the court cases delayed
Mental health services on hold while depression and suicide increase

Got tired linking all the associated articles. You can use Goggle translate to read them if interested.


Just a “little bump” for Sweden to pass I guess.

[WellThatAgedWell]

It’s absolute chaos in Sweden right now.

Population 10 million and they have 110 people in ICU with Covid. That’s like 100 to many if you ask me. Thank god everything is shutting down and people are staying home sick. Anything to keep stop this thing!

Probably all due to their lack of rules and low vaccine rate of only 72 percent.

These truckers are insane. All you have to do is look at Sweden to know we want to look nothing like them. And now people are asking to go maskless. Omg people are nuts! We need our masks now more than ever!

[pelmet]

The convoy should be stopped outside Ottawa and they can leave their trucks parked at the side of the highway. School busses would be given permission to pick up the truckers to drop them off at parliament hill. All paid out of the go fund me account.

An emergency law allowing this action would be that for a time period, no trucks go into the city unless it can be proven that there is a business reason to be on the city.

That is what I would have attempted to do if I were mayor or premier. Maybe I should be.

Guess they should have listened to me last week when I stated the above.

Now.....

"Incoming vehicles will be directed to designated parking zones outside the downtown core, and vehicles parked illegally will be ticketed and towed. Police said they may close highways, interprovincial bridges and major roadways to keep vehicles out of downtown."

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-police ... -1.5767296

[Just another canuck]

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[Aviatard]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews ... moved/amp/

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[Just another canuck]

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[hamstandard]

This vaccine is basically experimental.......

Not any more:

Full approval now by the CDC.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/sma ... d=msedgntp

Waiting for the next excuse.

[Aviatard]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews ... moved/amp/

Oops

Saw this already. Meanwhile, support for BLM is just fine according to our lawmakers and politicians. GoFundMe did not make this decision all by themselves. Rather than address the issue, our corrupt government will do anything they can to make it go away.

Doesn't matter though. This will only strengthen the core and volunteers and demonstrators will help directly at the site. Whatever it takes.

Looks like ordinary people are rising up and are now organizing to go after the truckers insurance companies. And health care workers in Toronto organizing a counter- protest. And a class action lawsuit has been filed against the Ottawa trucker protesters. Things are going badly.

[rookiepilot]

I’m downtown TO this weekend.

Maybe I’ll bring the protestors a load of food and groceries. I suspect I won’t be alone.

I vehemently support the right to peaceful protest which this government is trying every which way to shame, demonize and take away.

Don’t dare tell me I don’t have the right to do so. We will have words.

Call me a homophobic racist terrorist white supremacist for doing so? I dare you. Open your chequebook. Come on. These repeated, unfounded smears by the media of ALL truckers in this protest — really anger me. The cowardly media won’t name specific names.

All of these endless reports of “violent, threatening protestors” in Ottawa? Unsubstantiated? Without any police charges filed?

Bulls—- innuendo by media, abetting governments suppression of the right to free speech.

Heres how you can support our hard working truckers. Their site has crashed so many are trying to logon.

https://www.givesendgo.com/SupportTruckersConvoys

[Aviatard]

Don’t dare tell me I don’t have the right to do so. We will have words.

You don’t have the right to take away my freedom of speech.

[Vaticinator]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews ... moved/amp/

Oops

Saw this already. Meanwhile, support for BLM is just fine according to our lawmakers and politicians. GoFundMe did not make this decision all by themselves. Rather than address the issue, our corrupt government will do anything they can to make it go away.

Doesn't matter though. This will only strengthen the core and volunteers and demonstrators will help directly at the site. Whatever it takes.

Exactly. I'll get my refund from GoFundMe and then double down on the amount I donate directly through whatever channel gets it in to the right hands.

[rookiepilot]

I’ve written both my MP and my Mayor days ago.

I’ve been ignored so far — perhaps because I didn’t vote Liberal?

I don’t like being ignored as a constituent. I don’t write my MP lightly. I expect a response.

Do I need to join the protest tomorrow in Toronto if my own representative ignores me?

[‘Bob’]

Did they ask for your voter registration? Being critical of one’s government does not mean you didn’t vote for them.

I think a high profile protest is one of the poorest ways to get the government to do what you want it to. Nothing good would have ever come from this protest.. I could have told you that weeks ago.

In fact.. I bet it prolongs restrictions just for the sheer fact the government doesn’t want to embolden protestors into thinking their methods work.

The way to get the government’s attention is to vote. With how much rent-free space Trudeau is taking up in peoples heads.. I half-wonder if many of them voted for him by accident?

[‘Bob’]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews ... moved/amp/

Oops

Saw this already. Meanwhile, support for BLM is just fine according to our lawmakers and politicians. GoFundMe did not make this decision all by themselves. Rather than address the issue, our corrupt government will do anything they can to make it go away.

Doesn't matter though. This will only strengthen the core and volunteers and demonstrators will help directly at the site. Whatever it takes.

Exactly. I'll get my refund from GoFundMe and then double down on the amount I donate directly through whatever channel gets it in to the right hands.

Yes.. but most of the donors are under fake accounts from overseas. Somehow I doubt they will care.. as the sowing of dissent is already paying dividends.

I don’t think you will see the same type of support in an accountable and grass-roots fundraiser.

[Vaticinator]

Who cares if the money comes from overseas? It's not going to a political party that could assume power and be beholden to foreign interests. It's covering the expenses of the protestors.

Sowing of dissent? We don't need foreign actors to do that. Our own prime minister and his NDP lap dog seem be doing that just fine on their own.