Ice Pilots of NWT Series on History Channel this Fall!

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NovaBoy wrote:All you folks worried about CAR's and WCB rules need to sit back and take a chill pill. Enjoy the show for what it is...entertainment.
You'll never survive working up north if you don't bend or break some CAR's or WCB rules. That's life, get over it. If any of you think you can go up north to work, and follow the rules to the letter.....well you won't last long. I'm not saying compromise on safety, just sometimes you need to get the job done.

I worked the north for years. I know oh to well what you have to do to get it the job done when your in the middle of no were. Doing this on your own main base at major airport is another thing. Its not like the resources aren't available. So for all you guys working down south you must play the rules.Only because you really don't know what it takes to get the job done. All because you are not flying in the mighty north.

I am not complaining about sweeping wings on some lake in the middle of no were along with all the other bs. Regardless i no longer intend on discussing this. Just keep in mind what's good for 1 should be good for all.
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godsrcrazy wrote:
302sc wrote:now let's just get back to the show and enjoy the riff raff so well distilled by omni production for the plebeian masses , another 9 episodes to go and with luck I might see what I look like on the tube!!

i guess we all now know why are defending this with your blah blah blah boo hoo hoo comments. Speaking of icing i wonder what CARs say's about flying an aircraft with no deicing into know icing hmmmm.

What's "Known"? IFR in a 172, I ran into it. Wasn't forecast. I got out of it. Nothing illegal there. How do you know that it was forecast for that day? In really cold temperatures it doesn't usually form... only ice crystals. So he could have be perfectly legal.

"Known" is the operative word, just like "ice adhering to the wing". Makes the difference in being legal or illegal.
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Anytime you're above the freezing level in visible moisture, it is forecast nil-light rime.
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What are they paying the Rampie's and the F/O's? Is the pay different depending on what machine you start on?
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I'm not saying compromise on safety, just sometimes you need to get the job done.
...by compromising safety :roll:
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I personally like the quote by the DC4 Captain..."Dont bother sweeping off the wing. The snow will all blow off on take off anyway"?!?!?!?!....what? That kinda thinking can get someone killed. Not every time the snow blowes off...Clean wing concept....BEFORE TAKEOFF
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I personally like the quote by the DC4 Captain..."Dont bother sweeping off the wing. The snow will all blow off on take off anyway"?!?!?!?!....what? That kinda thinking can get someone killed. Not every time the snow blowes off...Clean wing concept....BEFORE TAKEOFF
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AuxBatOn wrote:Anytime you're above the freezing level in visible moisture, it is forecast nil-light rime.
Not sure exactly what you mean by this.
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ilovelamp wrote:
AuxBatOn wrote:Anytime you're above the freezing level in visible moisture, it is forecast nil-light rime.
Not sure exactly what you mean by this.
Snagmaster E wrote:


What's "Known"? IFR in a 172, I ran into it. Wasn't forecast. I got out of it. Nothing illegal there. How do you know that it was forecast for that day? In really cold temperatures it doesn't usually form... only ice crystals. So he could have be perfectly legal.
If you read the fine prints on the Icing, turbulence and freezing level GFA, in the comments section. "NIL-LGT ICGIC ABV FZLV UNLS OTWZ NOTED."
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Anyone know who got the contract to fly the generator? Tindi?
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matt777 wrote:Anyone know who got the contract to fly the generator? Tindi?
I was thinking it might have been First Air's Herc
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Watching this program should be a pre-requisite before beginning a commercial licence.

It should also be manditory for anyone considering a College of Professional Pilots.

I think it shows how far people are willing to go and who they are willing to step over for the "privilege" of flying.
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Gawd! I feel sorry for that Indian Rampie pushing and shoving 600 lbs to get it to fit in. It hurts to watch because I know of many rampies and dock hands that got permanent back injuries because they were not handling baggage correctly. Makes me glad I decided not to go up north to pursue a career in aviation there.
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Avi, you certainly don't need to go up North to sustain an injury, and going up North is not a guarantee to get one either.

The reason he was pushing and pulling the heavy piece is because:

#1. He wasn't used to operating the forklift, and placed it wrong.

#2. He was too lazy to get back on the forklift and fix it.

#3. It makes better tv if he grunts and groans for a bit.

Best line of that episode came from Audrey: "I may not be able to lift all the heavy stuff, but I will find a way to do it."

That's the right attitude.
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nevermind...
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Captain X wrote:
matt777 wrote:Anyone know who got the contract to fly the generator? Tindi?
I was thinking it might have been First Air's Herc
I would guess either the herc or Arctic Sunwest's Buffalo. If it didn't fit in the DC-4, there's no way it would fit in the dash-7.
Donald wrote:Avi, you certainly don't need to go up North to sustain an injury, and going up North is not a guarantee to get one either.

The reason he was pushing and pulling the heavy piece is because:

#1. He wasn't used to operating the forklift, and placed it wrong.

#2. He was too lazy to get back on the forklift and fix it.

#3. It makes better tv if he grunts and groans for a bit.

Best line of that episode came from Audrey: "I may not be able to lift all the heavy stuff, but I will find a way to do it."

That's the right attitude.
I couldn't believe how long they went on with him trying to get that door closed. I mean come on, just go get the forklift again! And to top it off with his dance and saying he's a true rampie now because he manged to load the thing....give me a break!! :roll:
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Come on he is a dancing machine.
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Captain X wrote:
matt777 wrote:
Anyone know who got the contract to fly the generator? Tindi?


I was thinking it might have been First Air's Herc


I would guess either the herc or Arctic Sunwest's Buffalo. If it didn't fit in the DC-4, there's no way it would fit in the dash-7.





It was the Herc, from Winnipeg to Rankin.
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I love the part where Mikey says he doesn't know why rampies do what they do.... right after he says what he expects from a rampie (to think about nothing but work, for forget about being a pilot).

The show reminds me somewhat of my Flightcraft days with the antics of keeping ancient hardware airborne. Except at Buffalo the planes are slightly older, the temperature a lot colder, and the drama and language are pretty tame in comparison... :smt040
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iflyforpie wrote: language are pretty tame in comparison... :smt040
I have a feeling that they are trying really hard to use as little profanity as possible and keeping the ranting and freaking out to a minimum on camera
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What's "Known"? IFR in a 172, I ran into it. Wasn't forecast. I got out of it. Nothing illegal there. How do you know that it was forecast for that day? In really cold temperatures it doesn't usually form... only ice crystals. So he could have be perfectly legal.

"Known" is the operative word, just like "ice adhering to the wing". Makes the difference in being legal or illegal.[/quote]

I thought "known" icing was known due to the fact that someone had actually picked up ice and reported it. Forecast icing differs in the fact that the weather office is speculating that icing is likely to occur. I remember being told not to report light icing as then the FSS guys would change the forecast to "known" and end up grounding a lot of other aircraft that had boots and hot props but were not certified for "known" icing.
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There can't be to many day's in the fall when that big lake is freezing that there isn't "Known" icing in the forecast.

Are these aircraft certified for known icing. If not that would ground them a lot of day's. The Dc3 most be if they do a daily sched.
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godsrcrazy wrote:There can't be to many day's in the fall when that big lake is freezing that there isn't "Known" icing in the forecast.

Are these aircraft certified for known icing. If not that would ground them a lot of day's. The Dc3 most be if they do a daily sched.
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yep dc3 wil handle ice, i have spent hours in ice in it in previous years
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I believe it will handle ice. Is it certified for known icing. I imagine they would have boots and hot props to be certified.
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canwhitewolf wrote:
yep dc3 wil handle ice, i have spent hours in ice in it in previous years
How do you get rid of the ice when you need to get rid of it?
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