Ice Pilots - Season 3

[linecrew]

Bit of trivia. I found a pic of that DC-4 they were bringing to Red Deer, C-GBNV, in Episode 3 that was taken in 1962 in Berlin when it was operated by the USAF.

Link to airliners.net page

[Northern Flyer]

Haven't you ever watched a DC-3 takeoff?

I fly tail wheel aircraft. I just don't understand why you wouldn't think Vr is a valid number in a tail wheel aircraft.

[Lost in Saigon]

Well maybe I am way off base, but when watching large tail-wheel aircraft takeoff, it does look like they accelerate in a level attitude and then "rotate" at flying speed. Is that not the case?

[Northern Flyer]

Well maybe I am way off base, but when watching large tail-wheel aircraft takeoff, it does look like they accelerate in a level attitude and then "rotate" at flying speed. Is that not the case?

Yes, that is the case. I misunderstood your post. During acceleration the tail wheel comes up, slight forward pressure is applied to keep the mains on the ground until Vr is reached than you gently relax the slight forward pressure and rotate.

[Cat Driver]

During acceleration the tail wheel comes up, slight forward pressure is applied to keep the mains on the ground until Vr is reached than you gently relax the slight forward pressure and rotate.

I learn something new every day, does it matter where the pitch trim is set before this method works?

[Northern Flyer]

During acceleration the tail wheel comes up, slight forward pressure is applied to keep the mains on the ground until Vr is reached than you gently relax the slight forward pressure and rotate.

I learn something new every day, does it matter where the pitch trim is set before this method works?

Depends on your load. I have not flown a DC 3, just single turbo otters. I set the trim in relation to the load I am hauling. With the Barron stol kit you have to hold slight forward pressure or she will fly before you want her too. If I am doing stol work than its a little different, no need to hold her on, once the tail starts flying she will go. With the Garrett that is usually around 35kts.

[Colonel Sanders]

I thought this was how you did it:

[Northern Flyer]

nice video, they flew the bag off that thing.

[Adiabatic]

Bit of trivia. I found a pic of that DC-4 they were bringing to Red Deer, C-GBNV, in Episode 3 that was taken in 1962 in Berlin when it was operated by the USAF.

Link to airliners.net page

Awesome! I think i had forgotten that piece of trivia. I hope BNV flys again. Currently removing/removed tank to put on an Electra. I think our Blue Bird DC-4 is ex-Berlin Airlift. C-FBAM.

GLBA, an Electra used to be painted black with a moon on it, cn 1145
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled ... 2000646d2d

[Go Juice]

Anybody notice in the video how the f-16 looks like the nose wheel collapsed just after the roll at about 0:25 sec??

[flyby17]

anybody else crack up at joes emotional goodbye to audrey?

[down north]

I kinda felt bad for Audrey. She put in a lot of time with Buffalo and she seemed to be a damn hard worker.

A person like her has the potential to do well in this industry (Straight from Joe's mouth). She's always smiling and almost always in a good mood no matter what kind of sh*t they throw her way.

Buffalo is a dying company, the Electra's sit on the ground for weeks at a time, everything else is falling apart. They should take better care of the people who are willing to put up with working there.

Sure Mikey seems to think its one big happy family. But if that were true they would take care of each other, especially when things were not going well for any one of its members, sort of like a real family.

Those who are foolish enough to goto Buffalo for a start in this industry I do feel for you and in a way respect you folks. Elsewhere you would not have to put up with half the crap you guys do at Buffalo. Elsewhere you could actually stand up for yourself without the fear of verbal abuse, or loosing your job.

Good for you Audrey for having the balls to move on....

[straightpilot]

I'm afraid to watch the Nov 9 episode

[Hornblower]

Ya, Joe and Mikey really rolled over on the kid. Clearly they had no intent to ever see her flying and were stringing her along in the hopes that she stay there and drive the truck for lower wages than they woud actually pay a truck driver. I have no problem with ramp jobs leading to flying jobs, hell it's a good idea to get your feet wet as a newbie by doing something related to ops, but to string someone along for two years, and then just dump them with "don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out" attitude, is very telling.

No morals at all.

[wan2fly99]

I'm not sorry at all to see her go. I remember the first few shows they highlighted her. Cannot remember the comments now but she didn't care if others were there first and she got to fly ahead of them while they had put in there hard wok end effort. Remeber the big guy who eventually left.

[FlyGy]

Agreed, good riddance to her. I suspect it was mostly editing, but in previous seasons Audrey was portrayed as a selfish little _____ who didn't give a damn about anyone else in the company and she wouldn't hesitate to take advantage of Joe's sexist policies to leap frog over anyone to get where she wanted, then, she leaves for a few months for personal reasons and expects the company to just stop everything and wait for her? Welcome to the real world chickie poo, you aren't the centre of the Buffalo universe.

It is confusing though, because everyone in the company talks about what a great person she is and how she brightened up the company with her smile.

The only people who know the real Audrey are those who worked and played with her. I couldn't stand her on the show, but I'll keep an open mind if I ever see her on a WJ flight.

[Northern Flyer]

I wounder if WJ has a Flight attendant to right seat program going? I give her 18 months than she will be out trying to be a pilot again, and she will just be 18 months further behind.

[robertsailor1]

Well one thing for sure, she won't be like she is in the movies, LOL. This stuff is scripted and the actors are cheap, welcome to reality shows that aren't real.

[att + pwr = perf]

I'm not sorry at all to see her go. I remember the first few shows they highlighted her. Cannot remember the comments now but she didn't care if others were there first and she got to fly ahead of them while they had put in there hard wok end effort. Remeber the big guy who eventually left.

I agree, when she arrived she didn't care who she walked on to get to be Joe's favorite. Good to she her gone.

[oldtimer]

As of 2011/10/17, C-GBNV was sitting in Red Deer with all 4 props feathered, the tank is on the airplane and it looks like there is some sort of spray gear mounter above the wings. It looks like they are still working on the airplane. It had a tug hooked up to it.
Does anyone know what ever happened to the big guy, Jerimey Dow? I sure hope he found a good flying job somewhere.

[North Shore]

LAst I heard, 'the big rampie' had moved across the ramp to one of the other companies in the 'Knife. That was two years ago, so it would be a safe assumption that he is in a seat of something by now...

WRT the Audrey situation, did she really trample on other people to get 'her' seat in the -3, or was she just edited that way? Likewise, her departure? Face it, running an airline isn't that exciting..a bit of judicious editing, however, and you've got yourself some compelling TV. (to pilot geeks, anyway! )

[Lowjack]

I could have sworn that Jeremy posted here on AvCanada during the show last season and filled us in on some more details regarding his scenario.

[Indanao]

I could have sworn that Jeremy posted here on AvCanada during the show last season and filled us in on some more details regarding his scenario.

Quite right. BUT, that was last year......at that time it was like North Shore said.

He got screwed, Audrey got screwed, and McBryant's, " Universe " got more cheap overqualified labour. Buffalo Airway's future is directly related to how long Duane Hicks stays around.

[BingBong]

Anyone notice that no one is wearing seatbelts in the gear up/down episode....lol

[N2]

Just goes to show how much value Joe puts in his people....zero.