Canjet

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:26 pm

Im with Green B! My money is on Canjet running into real issues with a pilot shortage. The numbers are already there to prove it. The upgrade pool is going to be extremely low very shortly, and I know that the CP will not upgrade just to keep planes in the air. That is his ass on the line, and he will park 'em if he can't find the talent for the left seat!

hifly · Post by **hifly** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:29 pm

GB,Josh, when you look at your numbers and add commuting and higher housing costs CJ is a good job for both seats and most of the gang I have spoken to are also glad to be back and like working at CJ. I understand you are also trying to get back so good luck. Some of the posts appear to want CJ to fold so it will be interesting to hear the summer work program during the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the advice but I will wait and see and give management a chance to see what they come up with for the summer as they told us at the Dec. lunch.

eastdude · Post by **eastdude** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:22 pm

hifly wrote:GB,Josh, when you look at your numbers and add commuting and higher housing costs CJ is a good job for both seats and most of the gang I have spoken to are also glad to be back and like working at CJ. I understand you are also trying to get back so good luck. Some of the posts appear to want CJ to fold so it will be interesting to hear the summer work program during the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the advice but I will wait and see and give management a chance to see what they come up with for the summer as they told us at the Dec. lunch.

I beg to differ, do you forget that 92% of the pilots at CJ signed the cards. They didn't do that because they were happy. CJ was a good place to work because of lots of great people there. You have to admit there were and still are issues at CJ.
Of course people are glad to be back, it beats pogey. Not everyone is ready to pack up and move on so it makes sense that most are happy to be back. If you want a different opinion ask some of the great people that left. So do like you're doing and wait until the summer sked, good on ya man, and when you take your kid to the dentist and get hit with a nice bill because they got their first cavity, sit back and say to yourself, man this is a great place to work.
Also sir goto http://www.mls.ca and look at what 150 000 grand gets you in the Halifax area and tell me that it's still a cheap place to live. gimme a break.
To the people who left and the ones who are staying good luck to all and hopefully it works out for everyone.

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:33 pm

hifly wrote: Thanks for the advice but I will wait and see and give management a chance to see what they come up with for the summer as they told us at the Dec. lunch.

I am stiff with laughter...Ummm, does credibility mean anything to you?

green bastard · Post by **green bastard** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:53 pm

Hifly (Frank), just for the record Josh has nothing to do with the GB. He has more class than that. So lets leave his name out of this, out of respect. Goodluck with your confidence in CJ, I hope it works out for you.
GB

really green · Post by **really green** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:47 am

I guess that no one realizes that working for KR is a dead end street. Some where it's gonna end. how do I know you may ask. How about 2 layoffs in 1 1/2 years. history repeats itself.
Think about it
Signed Very Happily
Greg Hatt

Kandoo · Post by **Kandoo** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:17 am

Hi Greg,
Hope things are going well. Don’t worry, the guys in maintenance are starting to leave. Did you know there is a posting for two mechanic positions? The call backs based on seniority was a joke. All we are getting is lip service on summer flying. You know how it goes paint a pretty picture until the pink slip goes in the mail slot. Good Luck and take care.

rotate · Post by **rotate** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:40 am

Hifly,
Any job out there right now is better than CJ. CJ is offering nothing beyond a paycheque for a few months. They have taken any reason to stay away. You get a paycheque and that's it!! Pension gone, years of service gone, travel benefits gone, vacation reduced, can't bid on a sched. Living season to season......really why bother.
You can't believe a word they tell you, don't listen! I hear they are already telling guys 11 aircraft for the fall. Even if they did get 11 aircraft they'd have to park 7 of them due to lack of pilots. (9 Captains leaving in the next few months)They're just trying to suck people into staying till the contracts run out. DONT LISTEN!!
While you waste your time at CJ other pilots with a lot less time will be paying their dues at AC and WJ. By the time you wake up and decide to move (or have to) you'll be right seat to pilots half your age.
Go get your number at WJ or AC and sit tight.
The offices at CJ are like a morgue, just as chilly but the heat is set a little higher and it's a lot more depressing.

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:26 pm

Pretty sad to hear about all of this for C6.

I really enjoyed working with CanJet and all of their staff the last couple of years, and look forward to it during the charter season. Hopefully someone can breathe life into CanJet it's the only Atlantic Canadian operator, it would be sad to see them go. I often wonder if diversifying their fleet for domestic operation would help out any, but with that comes higher costs as well.

Anyway C6'ers salutations from Moncton, welcome back anytime:

CantStandYa · Post by **CantStandYa** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:55 pm

First post.

Sorry to see that its all going to crap at cj. I, like others spent some very good times flying there. I have great respect for all the people that I worked with, aside from the liars in upper management.

My advice to all of you is to get out while the times are good. Treat cj as a pay check till you find something else. The world is a large and exciting place and there are many fantastic flying opportunities out there. Don't waist another day of your life at a place that is just using and abusing you and your valuable skills. You are highly trained professionals and deserve to be treated as such. If I can land a dream job, so can you.

Hifly (Frank) if thats you. Give your head a shake. I never understood your weird and cultlike devotion to cj, but you have a wife and child to think about. For their sake at least admit that your flogging a dead horse and move on. Tough as it may be on your ego to sit as an F/O, it can be done, and you will more than likely make a lot more in the long run ( or right off the bat as I am ) and could be given the chance to operate much larger and newer aircraft. But then again, maybe you're just not ready to 'take a step back in your career', as I did.

To all the rest of you past and present cj1, cj2 and cj2.5ers I salute you. Best of luck to you all and I hope we will meet again.

rickenbacker · Post by **rickenbacker** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:04 pm

The massive exodus has begun.....

captain thicknjuicy · Post by **captain thicknjuicy** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:32 pm

I'm surprised it took this long!

Kandoo · Post by **Kandoo** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:58 pm

What do you mean by massive?

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:47 pm

Anyone else up for a "Rocky Mountain High?"

"Frank" · Post by **"Frank"** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:46 am

green bastard wrote:Hifly (Frank), just for the record Josh has nothing to do with the GB. He has more class than that. So lets leave his name out of this, out of respect. Goodluck with your confidence in CJ, I hope it works out for you.
GB

Well GB, I am not Hifly and you lack a lot of class dragging people’s names on here, especially when you are guessing at their identities. I don’t appreciate you putting words in my mouth.

Frank

"Frank" · Post by **"Frank"** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:49 am

CantStandYa wrote:First post.

Sorry to see that its all going to crap at cj. I, like others spent some very good times flying there. I have great respect for all the people that I worked with, aside from the liars in upper management.

My advice to all of you is to get out while the times are good. Treat cj as a pay check till you find something else. The world is a large and exciting place and there are many fantastic flying opportunities out there. Don't waist another day of your life at a place that is just using and abusing you and your valuable skills. You are highly trained professionals and deserve to be treated as such. If I can land a dream job, so can you.

Hifly (Frank) if thats you. Give your head a shake. I never understood your weird and cultlike devotion to cj, but you have a wife and child to think about. For their sake at least admit that your flogging a dead horse and move on. Tough as it may be on your ego to sit as an F/O, it can be done, and you will more than likely make a lot more in the long run ( or right off the bat as I am ) and could be given the chance to operate much larger and newer aircraft. But then again, maybe you're just not ready to 'take a step back in your career', as I did.

To all the rest of you past and present cj1, cj2 and cj2.5ers I salute you. Best of luck to you all and I hope we will meet again.

CSY,
Well buddy that is really classy……taking a run at me on a public forum. Very sad, I would have thought you would be more tactful with what was on your mind. Next time you shoot your mouth off about me why don’t you just say it to my face?

Furthermore, you have no idea of my future plans. My wife and I are always planning way ahead.

Frank

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:41 am

Maybe it was a good guess, maybe not. If it wasn't you, then I was fooled too. Many former CJ'ers (Act 1 & Act 2) have heard a few diehards speak to the same tone as Hifly posted. It’s nothing new to have people guess at identities here. Whether HIFLY was you or not, I still think this is your approach to CJ's third resurrection.

My advice, make like the Marlboro man and get a sniff of that cool mountain air...Whoever you are, I do wish you the best of luck.

rotate · Post by **rotate** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:52 am

Hey we're getting off topic here....the bitching should be kept to the topic at hand....CANJET. We all have different opinions so lets leave the names out and just share gripes, rumor, and predictions. It's a lot more fun. CJ's open door policy is just to keep tabs on the trouble makers so this forum is a valuable place to trade and share info.
I'm personally waiting for the new AC recruits to put in their notice. Class starts on the 29th I heard. They're already run out of F/A's and are starting cattle calls. A perk they're offering is a free uniform.
They'll soon run out of pilots...more going to WJ in march.

green bastard · Post by **green bastard** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:15 am

Nice try Frank/Hifli, instead of being offended by the GB. You should be looking for job while the going is still good.

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:41 am

Where is Hifly, has he gone running to the nearest phonebooth? Its a bird, its a plane, no its....

Kandoo · Post by **Kandoo** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:20 am

So how does everyone think they (Canjet management / KR) will deal with a shortage of Pilots and F/A’s?

uwillpay · Post by **uwillpay** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:25 am

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that maybe they'll shut it down.

no SERIOUSLY! They've been known to do it before I heard!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

C'mon now everyone say it with me: "Miami One Departure! Miami One departure!"

rotate · Post by **rotate** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:53 am

CJ Management responses
1..Problem? what problem?
2.. There's plenty of unemployeed abused pilots that will work for us!!
3.. They won't quit, they want to live on the east coast.
4..We've never had a problem before so one doesnt exist now, it's all rumor
5.. Till we actually have no pilots left there's no problem.
6.. They're like battered women (no offence)...they'll never leave.
7.. We haven't had to ground a plane yet so there's obviously no problem.

Kandoo · Post by **Kandoo** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:43 pm

rotate
That sounds right! Should be interesting!

Stick-Shaker · Post by **Stick-Shaker** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:39 am

The word is that KR is buzzing around telling everyone that the charter market is screaming for increased lift. He is suggesting that if he still had 10 planes, he could easily keep them busy with charter demand. If that’s the case, he shouldn't have closed the doors in September. He wouldn't have pilot shortage issues now or ever. Most were happy there and would have put up with his other crap just to stay in Maritimes (poor excuse, but a common one). Even the most devote Rowe loyalists are fed up. He created his own problem.

11 aircraft in the fall? Bahahaa! Thats a lot of dangling carrots, Rowe should open a Farmer Clem's too!