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Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:42 pm
by V2plus10
Curious now that Encore has been around for a bit, how are the FO's managing to survive in YYC? I certainly don't imagine any of them have time to hold second jobs and if you have student loan payments/kids it must be impossible.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:15 am
by sstaurus
They're living the high life now compared to the new hires schlepping for jazz.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:58 am
by rudder
sstaurus wrote:They're living the high life now compared to the new hires schlepping for jazz.
Jazz has no training bond.

Take the course. Get the endorsement. Apply elsewhere.

At least at Jazz the resignation is free of charge.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:44 am
by Flyboycanada80
V2plus10 wrote:Curious now that Encore has been around for a bit, how are the FO's managing to survive in YYC? I certainly don't imagine any of them have time to hold second jobs and if you have student loan payments/kids it must be impossible.
They mostly dont, the guys I know that went there are young single guys, renting basement suites.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:18 pm
by loopa
rudder wrote:
sstaurus wrote:They're living the high life now compared to the new hires schlepping for jazz.
Jazz has no training bond.

Take the course. Get the endorsement. Apply elsewhere.

At least at Jazz the resignation is free of charge.
Does Encore have a training bond for the Q400?

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:51 pm
by Bede
There is no training bond at Encore.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:32 pm
by loopa
Bede wrote:There is no training bond at Encore.
That's what I thought. Thanks Bede.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:55 pm
by rudder
Bede wrote:There is no training bond at Encore.
True.

But GGN and Porter have bonds. Not sure about SKY.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:16 pm
by Heisenberg666
No bond at Porter. Im pretty sure there isn't one at Sky either.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:28 pm
by Maxpwr
No bond at Sky Regional.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:55 pm
by sstaurus
rudder wrote:
sstaurus wrote:They're living the high life now compared to the new hires schlepping for jazz.
Jazz has no training bond.

Take the course. Get the endorsement. Apply elsewhere.

At least at Jazz the resignation is free of charge.
While I wouldn't feel bad for jazz given their current compensation, if you can call it that, that strikes me as a good way to burn bridges and give yourself a bad name in a small industry.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:56 pm
by rudder
Heisenberg666 wrote:No bond at Porter. Im pretty sure there isn't one at Sky either.
That is good news.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:34 pm
by V2plus10
Isn't all this bond talk irrelevant? Are you going to get a Dash type rating then jump ship from jazz for big bucks at encore, encore to sky, sky to jazz? Any way you look at it you'll be making poverty wages in any of the bases those companies operate.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:40 am
by dhc#
V2plus10 wrote:Isn't all this bond talk irrelevant? Are you going to get a Dash type rating then jump ship from jazz for big bucks at encore, encore to sky, sky to jazz? Any way you look at it you'll be making poverty wages in any of the bases those companies operate.
Sad and very true, regional job = poverty, and no amount of spin can put a shine on that turd.

Re: Jazz or Encore?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:01 pm
by KK7
V2plus10 wrote:Curious now that Encore has been around for a bit, how are the FO's managing to survive in YYC? I certainly don't imagine any of them have time to hold second jobs and if you have student loan payments/kids it must be impossible.
Most are not FOs for that long.