TC to suspend license over unpaid $55 fee

[AirFrame]

[Condorito]

If nobody paid them, what are they gonna do? Suspend everyone? Think about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution

[TG]

If nobody paid them, what are they gonna do? Suspend everyone? Think about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution

You should worry more about temporary worker's ponzi scheme.
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 4&t=103904
If let go, that thing will have a little bit more impact on your career (in Canada that is) than shelling a mere 55$ every six months or so.

A 55$ that should be paid by your employer anyway.

[trey kule]

Here is the thing. They are using the full might of the federal government to collect this money and are prepared to destroy someones careeer to collect it.
And they are taking us on, one at a time.
They know that no one is going to stand up and question the legality of the fee, their enforcement collection tactics, or even the ethics of it, for $55.00

And once they get us all in line, they will raise the fee and continue to fleece the sheep. The only thing keeping this fee down now is that if they raise it the backlash will be even bigger. But once they eliminate that problem......

No consideration whatsoever to just spending less and so not needing this money...

What needs to happen is for someone to set up a fund to challange the whole thing in court...lets see....55.00 from 3000 pilots would be a darn good start. They can only succeed if they do not have to deal with a group.

[AuxBatOn]

Tin foil needed...

Dude, if anybody is destroying his career, it's you by not paying the fee.

[HiFlyChick]

Said it before, will say it again

Been paying it for years, will continue to do so

Been paying my car and bike registration, too

Also pay my driver licence fee every few years

Is it right - maybe not, but there are greater injustices in this world to worry about than a lousy $55 processing fee

[single_swine_herder]

Why stop with advocating to form a group to show the government who is boss by just refusing to pay the fee .... why not actually overthrow the government through use of force?

I'm sure you'd be just as successful doing that as you would by following your personal version of a tax revolt.

If you came to me and told me your licence was suspended, you sure as shootin' wouldn't be dispatched due to your twisted sense of priorities. You'd be on immediate administrative leave and sent home.

[trey kule]

Tin foil needed...

Dude, if anybody is destroying his career, it's you by not paying the fee

Well "Dude", I have absolutely no dog in this fight when it comes to TC medicals.
I was advocating what is right. And, when the fee gets to $100 in a year or so try and remember how all the sheep let it happen.

As to the twisted priorities. The draconian enforcement reminds me of a school yard bully. I guess my priorities are twisted if I advocate standing up to them.

This "fee" was sold to us based on consideration of delivering a good or service, TC stopped doing that.
Yet the fee remains. That is not OK with me as I can see the path it will go down once they have everyone in line.

It is not about refusing to pay. It is forcing them to legally justify in court what they are doing.

And, as I have been advised, there is an ombudsman who will look into this. A lower cost avenue if enough people stop rolling over and contact them.

Lastly, SSH, as you chose to conclude my priorities were twisted, reread my post. Then quotevme the part where I said I would refuse to pay, or suggested anyone else should....
Maybe ask Auxbat for help, as he came to exactly the same conclusion it seems...

[FOD_Vacuum]

The annual 55 buck fee pisses me off, and I didn't pay it yet this year. Our company pays for our medical which by the way has gone up in cost again, meaning I pay the last $20 out of pocket. And another $55??? Eff off TC lol, were not exactly rich here as pilots. Whats next, a $10 additional fee for online payments? End iof rant..

[HiFlyChick]

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As to the twisted priorities. The draconian enforcement reminds me of a school yard bully. I guess my priorities are twisted if I advocate standing up to them.

This "fee" was sold to us based on consideration of delivering a good or service, TC stopped doing that.
Yet the fee remains. That is not OK with me as I can see the path it will go down once they have everyone in line.
...

Draconian? You owe a fee, you don't pay it, the item your fee pays for gets taken away... seems pretty basic to me. And quite frankly, speaking as someone who has been paying the fee all along, I am somewhat annoyed that there are others that have been just not paying. You want something (a medical/licence) and you know what the fee costs, then whether you agree or not, you pay the fee. Sure, go ahead and protest, but pay what your debts.

OK, so the used to say the fee was for the AIM - there's still manpower required to process the medical paperwork and to produce the amendments to the AIM and put them online. Worth $55? Probably not, but no different than car registration or drivers licence fee

[fleet16b]

Well at least one part of this issue will be corrected eventually
The FAA recognizes a valid US drivers license as the medical for the new Sport Pilot Permit
US legislation is in the works to do the same with the US PPL .
This will eventually force TC to adopt the same thing in Canada = no $55 fee
If TC does not adapt , there will be no more US PPL allowed to fly in Canada as the US pilots will not have the Medical required. (currently the situation for Sport Pilots )
The US legislation is going to really open up a can of worms at the Canadian UPL RPP and PPL levels.

[JasonE]

$55....Grrr....Wrote a cheque today for passing my PPL.

[photofly]

If TC does not adapt , there will be no more US PPL allowed to fly in Canada as the US pilots will not have the Medical required. (currently the situation for Sport Pilots ).

I must be missing something. Why should TC be bothered if US PPLs are or aren't allowed to fly in Canada? Most US PPLs don't know where Canada is, and the few that do want to fly here can simply be told they will just have to get a Class III medical first.

The US legislation is going to really open up a can of worms at the Canadian UPL RPP and PPL levels.

I don't see why it should make any difference to TC.

[AuxBatOn]

$55....Grrr....Wrote a cheque today for passing my PPL.

Well, it should have been before your solo.

[howard40]

I just wish it was easier to do online, it's got more security than online banking I think. And because most of us use it so seldom, we can't remember how we got in last time.

[BE20 Driver]

This thread got me to pay my bill. It's only a month or two out so not so huge to warrant a suspension. Managed to do it over the phone. Only had to press 1 for English, 4 aviation, 3 for something, 6 for something else, 1 for English again, 2 to get into another menu, 2 for some other sub menu, 1 for English once again, 3 for God knows what, 1 just to confirm I still speak English and finally mash the 0 a few times to reach a human who is likely in Bangladesh and likely wouldn't speak English anyway.

True story.

[cdnpilot77]

If you go on the TC website under the regional offices, the Toronto office has a separate phone number that says "Fee Payment" and it is a direct line to a cashier to pay for medical fees, type ratings, IFR etc.