Employee with PPL flying for the Company

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photofly wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:28 pm Sometimes one hears about claims that should have been paid, that have been denied. That's not a good thing.
No. It isn't. Being a human being I have dealt with insurance companies before. Personally its my suspicion that a calculation is simply made whether it is worth paying out the claim and the insuree's ability to fight any denial of pay out. Aviation insurers seem to make a different calculation than say automobile insurers. That's just my perception from my dealings with them.
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photofly wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:38 pm I also know a respected pilot who does a decent sideline in being an expert witness for (and against) insurance companies who are trying not to payout on claims. So yes, insurance companies trying to get out of paying out is a thing.
I also know of a respected dog trainer, amongst the top in her field, who makes the odd buck being an expert witness in canine attack lawsuits for (and against) the the insurance companies. It's not just an aviation thing.
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Why throw good money after bad? If all you're doing is taking pictures (which, with your experience level is all you should be doing) just get a drone. Considerably more cost effective and better suited/purpose built for the task.
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RedAndWhiteBaron wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:54 pm
photofly wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:38 pm I also know a respected pilot who does a decent sideline in being an expert witness for (and against) insurance companies who are trying not to payout on claims. So yes, insurance companies trying to get out of paying out is a thing.
I also know of a respected dog trainer, amongst the top in her field, who makes the odd buck being an expert witness in canine attack lawsuits for (and against) the the insurance companies. It's not just an aviation thing.
If there is ever a lawsuit due to a dog attacking an airplane, they'll get to meet :smt049

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shimmydampner wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:42 am Why throw good money after bad? If all you're doing is taking pictures (which, with your experience level is all you should be doing) just get a drone. Considerably more cost effective and better suited/purpose built for the task.
Only for short distances. It will be a while until civilian drones can do long distance non line of sight work.
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If a guy has low experience, I suggest that someone else takes the pictures. Concentrate on flying.
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Oops.
In another thread photofly wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:08 pm
Photography: If you want to carry a photographer on board, it looks like you need an OC. If the pilot is taking the pictures, you don't.

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Bede wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:24 am Only for short distances. It will be a while until civilian drones can do long distance non line of sight work.
It's photos of job sites. Drones do this all the time.
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There's legality and then there's mortality. A few years ago a Commercial pilot flying a pipeline inspection crashed while in a low level turn taking pictures of a problem.

Some friends wanted pictures of their house in the country. They took the pictures and I stayed above 700'.

A company or business owner can use its own aircraft for its own business. Guests can be flown for free.

Insurance has been mentioned. You do need to make sure your insurance policy covers what you are doing. Flying high net worth guests and employees is a liability exposure.
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A company or business owner can use its own aircraft for its own business. Guests can be flown for free.
I think there's a TATC case where a lodge got dinged for flying guests in. They said it was a "free" service offered to paying guests, and TC said otherwise. TC won.
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photofly wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:04 pm
A company or business owner can use its own aircraft for its own business. Guests can be flown for free.
I think there's a TATC case where a lodge got dinged for flying guests in. They said it was a "free" service offered to paying guests, and TC said otherwise. TC won.
That is correct.

Flyibg clients is an indirect benefit and therefore is considered "for hire or reward". If you didn't fly them for free they likely wouldn't be your clients.

A lodge owner can't even fly their bags but can fly supplies and do camp checks with a private airplane.
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