
He changed his views on truckers over the past while......
Emergency law already enacted in Nova Scotia to stop traffic blockers.Inverted2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:27 pmI see your point but other truckers would get pissed off and likely join in and stop driving into the city and then watch the food and gas run out in a few days and then it will get nasty.pelmet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:11 pm No problem with protesters and freedom of speech but I have a major problem with people trying to jam up a city.
The convoy should be stopped outside Ottawa and they can leave their trucks parked at the side of the highway. School busses would be given permission to pick up the truckers to drop them off at parliament hill. All paid out of the go fund me account.
An emergency law allowing this action would be that for a time period, no trucks go into the city unless it can be proven that there is a business reason to be on the city.
That is what I would have attempted to do if I were mayor or premier. Maybe I should be.
I'm sure he didn't. I'm sure he still supports truckers who are doing the right thing and vaccinating, masking, and getting sh*t done. What he's against is the Flu Trux Klan spreading further misinformation and stupidity across the country. I mean really, we have AvCanada for that...
So protests should be illegal. At all times for any reason.
Did you read the media links i posted?Old fella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:36 amNo,we all support peaceful and lawful protest against Government action/inaction, it’s enshrined in our Constitution. This particular Ottawa caper with US and Confederate flags on display, plenty of f—- Trudeau placards kinda reminds of what happened this time last year. Pray tell it doesn’t go in that direction.rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:07 amSo protests should be illegal. At all times for any reason.
Permanent Martial law.
Just say it. Don’t be afraid.
100%rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 am If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.
That is all.
Wrong.altiplano wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:51 am100%rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 am If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.
That is all.
I see what you're saying. You're right that you don't have to be a cheerleader, but if you don't believe that people have a right to peaceful protest than you don't support democracy.‘Bob’ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:59 amWrong.altiplano wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:51 am100%rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 am If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.
That is all.
That is thought control.
That is what they say in N Korea when people aren’t crying for their dead leader enough.
It’s enough to implicitly support it.
And that is the biggest problem with all sides of society today. Anything less than overt and vehement support is treated as criticism or contempt.
So….like our PM / NDP / media experts are doing by labelling this convoy “dangerous, violent, insurrectionist, misogynistic, racist and homophobic”, all before one speech has been given on parliament hill?‘Bob’ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:59 amWrong.altiplano wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:51 am100%rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 am If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.
That is all.
That is thought control.
My vocal chords, my choice. You can’t tell me what to say. I can just think it silently if I want. This kind of mind control is COMMUNISM!!!! It’s just un-Canadian and against our charter.rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 am If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.
That is all.
Trudeau essentially revealed himself to be a proponent of this when he publicly decried unacceptable beliefs, the implication being that a belief that does not align with what is sanctioned by his government is unacceptable. That statement alone is worthy of vehement protest, especially considering that the issue at hand is how much control the government should have over your body, specifically what you must put in your body.
The two scenarios don't seem very similar. The protests are for very different reasons and the violence and civil disobedience last year was fueled and encouraged from the very top of government. In this scenario, while our "leader" has done his very best to sow the seeds of division with nasty rhetoric (before retreating into hiding), the legitimate organizers continue to reiterate the need for peaceful protest. I don't doubt Trudeau would be not at all disappointed if this turned violent as it would de-legitimize it and clean up what will otherwise become a serious political problem for him. Hopefully no bad actors spoil the moment, because this has caught the attention of the world, and they are watching with great interest.
I was refering to the Karen convoy looking for attention.rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:07 amSo protests should be illegal. At all times for any reason.
Permanent Martial law.
Just say it. Don’t be afraid.
No, that's horseshit and you know it Rookie.rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 am If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.
That is all.
Some of the “convoy” stuff floating about the twittersphere as of late aka swastikas has given me pause. No, not interesting in your links and I will remove myself from this thread.rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:40 amDid you read the media links i posted?Old fella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:36 amNo,we all support peaceful and lawful protest against Government action/inaction, it’s enshrined in our Constitution. This particular Ottawa caper with US and Confederate flags on display, plenty of f—- Trudeau placards kinda reminds of what happened this time last year. Pray tell it doesn’t go in that direction.rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:07 am
So protests should be illegal. At all times for any reason.
Permanent Martial law.
Just say it. Don’t be afraid.
No, everyone doesn’t support lawful protest. That’s the point.