Truckers convoy

[Inverted2]

He changed his views on truckers over the past while......

[pelmet]

No problem with protesters and freedom of speech but I have a major problem with people trying to jam up a city.

The convoy should be stopped outside Ottawa and they can leave their trucks parked at the side of the highway. School busses would be given permission to pick up the truckers to drop them off at parliament hill. All paid out of the go fund me account.

An emergency law allowing this action would be that for a time period, no trucks go into the city unless it can be proven that there is a business reason to be on the city.

That is what I would have attempted to do if I were mayor or premier. Maybe I should be.

I see your point but other truckers would get pissed off and likely join in and stop driving into the city and then watch the food and gas run out in a few days and then it will get nasty.

Emergency law already enacted in Nova Scotia to stop traffic blockers.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8578702/nova ... nb-border/

The truckers can make their point on parliament hill......once back in their trucks they can listen to some music I used to listen to as a kid............
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9BWlGP_DJw

They changed it for the movie......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss

[Posthumane]

Could someone who is following this closely clarify some things about this convoy?

As I understand it, the GoFundMe campaign is organized by Tamara Lich, of the Maverick Party. There is also an MOU brought forward by Canada Unity that's been mentioned a number of times. Are Canada Unity and the Maverick Party related is some way? Also, what is the role of Pat King in the organization of this convoy? It seems at times he has been a partner to Ms Lich, and at other times the group has tried to distance themselves from him.

[7ECA]

Sorry mate, this isn't the forum for asking reasonable questions around motives of those involved in so-called protest movements (which don't have a cohesive message to begin with). This is the sub-forum of blind faith and adherence to a dogma that truckers good, government(s) bad!

Why is it, that the movement is supposedly taking donations to fund the convoy(s) going to Ottawa - but the truckers are apparently self funding their journeys? Which is it; are the truckers self funding, or is the donation fund going to pay the driver's expenses? Or, will some token amount be handed out to those whom claim expenses in what will inevitably turn out to be a draconian bureaucratic process; while the majority of the funds raised disappear into the ether and later reemerge in the coffers of a few (or just one) fringe political party in Alberta?

[AirFrame]

He changed his views on truckers over the past while......

I'm sure he didn't. I'm sure he still supports truckers who are doing the right thing and vaccinating, masking, and getting sh*t done. What he's against is the Flu Trux Klan spreading further misinformation and stupidity across the country. I mean really, we have AvCanada for that...

[Vaticinator]

And also our own health minister, apparently.

[TG]

Roughly 10% of unvaccinated in Canada, Same amount with truckers, maybe a little less with Avcanada's posters as they should be called "Deniers" and not anti-vaxers since they had to get their shots to be able to fly.

Totally in sync with that saying I've heard from a flight attendant:
"It's always 10% of the passengers that are taking 90% of my time"

[rookiepilot]

Totally in sync with that saying I've heard from a flight attendant:
"It's always 10% of the passengers that are taking 90% of my time"

So protests should be illegal. At all times for any reason.

Permanent Martial law.

Just say it. Don’t be afraid.

[Just another canuck]

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[Old fella]

Deleted.

[rookiepilot]

If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.

That is all.

[rookiepilot]

Totally in sync with that saying I've heard from a flight attendant:
"It's always 10% of the passengers that are taking 90% of my time"

So protests should be illegal. At all times for any reason.

Permanent Martial law.

Just say it. Don’t be afraid.

No,we all support peaceful and lawful protest against Government action/inaction, it’s enshrined in our Constitution. This particular Ottawa caper with US and Confederate flags on display, plenty of f—- Trudeau placards kinda reminds of what happened this time last year. Pray tell it doesn’t go in that direction.

Did you read the media links i posted?

No, everyone doesn’t support lawful protest. That’s the point.

[altiplano]

If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.

That is all.

100%

[‘Bob’]

If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.

That is all.

100%

Wrong.

That is thought control.

That is what they say in N Korea when people aren’t crying for their dead leader enough.

It’s enough to implicitly support it.

And that is the biggest problem with all sides of society today. Anything less than overt and vehement support is treated as criticism or contempt.

[altiplano]

If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.

That is all.

100%

Wrong.

That is thought control.

That is what they say in N Korea when people aren’t crying for their dead leader enough.

It’s enough to implicitly support it.

And that is the biggest problem with all sides of society today. Anything less than overt and vehement support is treated as criticism or contempt.

I see what you're saying. You're right that you don't have to be a cheerleader, but if you don't believe that people have a right to peaceful protest than you don't support democracy.

[rookiepilot]

If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.

That is all.

100%

Wrong.

That is thought control.

So….like our PM / NDP / media experts are doing by labelling this convoy “dangerous, violent, insurrectionist, misogynistic, racist and homophobic”, all before one speech has been given on parliament hill?

How’d you like to be labelled that way, Bob, over something you care about?

[Aviatard]

If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.

That is all.

My vocal chords, my choice. You can’t tell me what to say. I can just think it silently if I want. This kind of mind control is COMMUNISM!!!! It’s just un-Canadian and against our charter.

[Vaticinator]

That is thought control.

Trudeau essentially revealed himself to be a proponent of this when he publicly decried unacceptable beliefs, the implication being that a belief that does not align with what is sanctioned by his government is unacceptable. That statement alone is worthy of vehement protest, especially considering that the issue at hand is how much control the government should have over your body, specifically what you must put in your body.

[Vaticinator]

This particular Ottawa caper with US and Confederate flags on display, plenty of f—- Trudeau placards kinda reminds of what happened this time last year. Pray tell it doesn’t go in that direction.

The two scenarios don't seem very similar. The protests are for very different reasons and the violence and civil disobedience last year was fueled and encouraged from the very top of government. In this scenario, while our "leader" has done his very best to sow the seeds of division with nasty rhetoric (before retreating into hiding), the legitimate organizers continue to reiterate the need for peaceful protest. I don't doubt Trudeau would be not at all disappointed if this turned violent as it would de-legitimize it and clean up what will otherwise become a serious political problem for him. Hopefully no bad actors spoil the moment, because this has caught the attention of the world, and they are watching with great interest.

[TG]

Totally in sync with that saying I've heard from a flight attendant:
"It's always 10% of the passengers that are taking 90% of my time"

So protests should be illegal. At all times for any reason.

Permanent Martial law.

Just say it. Don’t be afraid.

I was refering to the Karen convoy looking for attention.
But I’m not surprised to see you drawing extremist conclusions out of a single post.

[Inverted2]

Breaking news: Trudeau holds emergency meeting from his bunker!


https://odysee.com/@FwapUK:1/Justin-Tru ... a-Bunker:2

[dhc#]

[7ECA]

If you don’t explicitly, vocally support the right of these truckers to hold this large, widely supported, (so far) completely peaceful protest, regardless of your own opinions, you don’t support democracy.

That is all.

No, that's horseshit and you know it Rookie.

You can absolutely hold views that are completely antithetical to those held by participants in this particular protest (although, the views of the organizers and views of individual participants and other groups latched on to this "movement" vary widely) and still recognize that their disruptive antics - that cannot change the mandate put in place by the US Government prior to our own Federal Government; are still a valid form of protest under the Charter.

This all or nothing approach, is nothing short of Fascist or conversely Communist, and certainly harkens back (in my mind anyway) to those heady early days post 9/11 when G.W. Bush declared that those whom weren't with "us" were against "us" (speaking as I recall, about support for an illegal war in Iraq).

[Old fella]

So protests should be illegal. At all times for any reason.

Permanent Martial law.

Just say it. Don’t be afraid.

No,we all support peaceful and lawful protest against Government action/inaction, it’s enshrined in our Constitution. This particular Ottawa caper with US and Confederate flags on display, plenty of f—- Trudeau placards kinda reminds of what happened this time last year. Pray tell it doesn’t go in that direction.

Did you read the media links i posted?

No, everyone doesn’t support lawful protest. That’s the point.

Some of the “convoy” stuff floating about the twittersphere as of late aka swastikas has given me pause. No, not interesting in your links and I will remove myself from this thread.

At some point my light will come on and dump this site altogether, despite the entertainment value.

[Inverted2]

That is unfortunate, but when you have who knows how many thousands of protesters there you’re bound to get a few bad apples show up. Likely Antifa/Anarchists in the mix to smash things and paint the whole thing in a bad picture.