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Re: QOL for commuters

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The reason they want you to start your pairing on base is to allow them to reassign you if your pairing changes or if they need you last min for something else. As many have explained it’s your choice to commute and your responsibility to be at your base at the time your pairing starts.
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Re: QOL for commuters

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bcflyer wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:29 am The reason they want you to start your pairing on base is to allow them to reassign you if your pairing changes or if they need you last min for something else. As many have explained it’s your choice to commute and your responsibility to be at your base at the time your pairing starts.
Read up on the reassignment rules.
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Re: QOL for commuters

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Crewbunk wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:53 pm Oh I know all the theories. I’ve heard just about every permutation and combination. But …. the bottom line is that AC does not have a YYC base. If one wanted to live in Calgary, but work out of YVR, that’s your choice. However, you DO work out of YVR. Getting from YYC to YVR is on you.

Historically, AC has not been very friendly toward commuters. Not, unfriendly, just not terribly friendly. I have my theories why, stemming from duty day acknowledgement, but those are just my theories.

Also historically, as mentioned, a pilot was able to “bank” those unused deadheads for future use. Hopefully that cooperative spirit is returning. If however, it becomes onerous for the company and integrity of the operation becomes in question, they’ll just route the pairing from another base. For example YYZ-LHR-YYC-LHR-YYZ. No DHs and they now have full control over you for the 7 days or so it takes to run the pairing.

But …. just showing up in YYC for your YVR pairing without being released will not end well.

Btw, this is nothing new. It goes right back to when I was hired and odd pairings popped up. Things like YUL pilots deadheading to YYZ to do YYZ pairings while YYZ pilots were deadheading to YUL to do YUL pairings, at the same time. And ….. don’t forget when the A340 was based in YWG with all pairings starting/ending with a DH, and NO releases.
Literally yesterday the YYC-FRA flight had a mechanical issue resulting in a significant delay and the crew being pulled off for duty day issues. What does the company do? Call up crews that live in Calgary to help out and save the day. They love commuters when it helps them out but the rest of the time they are scum to them and no favours given. Hopefully everyone who gets denied releases or is given the run around remembers it next time they get the call to “save the day.”
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Re: QOL for commuters

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Re: QOL for commuters

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AvCanada rule #32...don't compare us to America. It is a different market 🤣
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Re: QOL for commuters

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Dash.Trash wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:19 pm Literally yesterday the YYC-FRA flight had a mechanical issue resulting in a significant delay and the crew being pulled off for duty day issues. What does the company do? Call up crews that live in Calgary to help out and save the day. They love commuters when it helps them out but the rest of the time they are scum to them and no favours given. Hopefully everyone who gets denied releases or is given the run around remembers it next time they get the call to “save the day.”
In the example you cite, they did what I would expect them to do; they drafted three pilots from the base operating the flight, (namely YVR), deadhead them to YYC to continue the pairing.

Realistically, unless you have three Calgary pilots/commuters available in Calgary to continue the pairing, you may as well draft none, as only one or two still operates under the restrictions of the third.
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Re: QOL for commuters

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Hey gents,

Currently in the hiring process and wondering what would be the best equipment for a junior YUL based (220 or RP)?

Mid thirties looking more for qol rather than aircraft size.

Cheers!
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