Dead pilot's father irate report into crash not released

[Cat Driver]

" It doesn't make sense. Pilots and operators are responsible for crashes, not Transport. They are a convenient scapegoat, and that's about it. "

So besides churning out more and more regulations, what do you think TC should do, Professor?

I was under the impression that they had a duty to ensure that operators actually obey the regulations.

Seems their only duty now is protecting their own asses and that is accomplished by the operators providing paper claims that they are conforming to the regulations.....

......the loss of the Sonic Blue Caravan was in all likihood an equipment failure.....

.....but was Sonic Blue running a safe and legal operation generally speaking....Had TC been looking at the actual operatoin in the field instead of sitting in their cubicles reading what may have been fiction maybe Mr. Huggetts son would still be here?

......the question that Mr. Huggett should be asking when he gets in front of a Judge will be why was Sonic Blue not regulated more efficiently, seems to me that there was sufficient reason to believe that there was lax oversite of Sonic Blue.....

...now I could be wrong, they may have been one of the best run operations in Canada with the highest level of safety, training, maintenance and management standards in canada.

Maybe the court case will shed some light on all this?

[86583]

so endless to quote you "agian" I guess english isn't your first language either....why don't you enlighten us as to your back ground and what makes you the resident expert...

[the_professor]

So besides churning out more and more regulations, what do you think TC should do, Professor?

I don't think they should churn out regulations just for the sake of doing so. But obviously in some cases they may be justified; Transport would have had no motivation to modify the approach ban were it not for crews lacking the judgement to make reasonable decisions on their own, i.e. flying an ILS in a 40kt crosswind with 1/4 vis at YXJ.

If pilots didn't make poor decisions like that, Transport wouldn't need to try and limit their decision making powers. Every time pilots make shitty decisions that generate bad PR, Transport is forced into the position of dumbing-down the entire industry.

......the loss of the Sonic Blue Caravan was in all likihood an equipment failure.....

And if that is shown to be the case, then what does Transport's oversight have to do with it? Do you want Transport checking turbine blades every cycle? If this was an equipment failure, as happens from time to time, how exactly would increased oversight from Transport have prevented the equipment failure? Would an increase in the number of audits actually prevent an engineer from detecting a blade crack with his boroscope? I don't think so.

[Cat Driver]

" If this was an equipment failure, as happens from time to time, how exactly would increased oversight from Transport have prevented the equipment failure? "

It is really simple Professor, if half the allegations about how they operated are true TC should have shut them down long before the Caravan loss.

So lets see what comes of these court cases.

Sloppy regulation has been rampant for a long time and every once in a while a high public intrest case comes along and sort of re focuses TC on the issues they should be looking at.

Remember Tomahawk Airways?

[Widow]

And if that is shown to be the case, then what does Transport's oversight have to do with it? Do you want Transport checking turbine blades every cycle? If this was an equipment failure, as happens from time to time, how exactly would increased oversight from Transport have prevented the equipment failure? Would an increase in the number of audits actually prevent an engineer from detecting a blade crack with his boroscope? I don't think so.

Are you missing the point entirely? It's not more audits that are required, it's that when they DO the audits, they should DO the audits, and that they DO DO the audits when they are supposed to DO the audits.

What we're saying is that in way too many cases, it isn't a new regulation that is required ... it is the interpreting of the CARs without common sense and then enforcing them nonsensically or not at all that is the problem. There are a few accidents that may have been preventable if:

a) there were whistleblower laws for the Canadian aviation industry
b) TC interpreted CARs uniformly and with common sense
c) TC enforced CARs uniformly and with common sense
d) there was a watchdog for TC
e) TSB recognized problems at TC in accident reports

That's my shortlist.

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