Letter from Mr. Preuss - comments?

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Boy, a few things up there I'd like to respond to ...

First off, I never said I was an expert, I said I was "becoming a bit of an expert". I have spent the last year researching accidents around the world. I am currently working with other families who have lost loved ones in the industry, so YES, I will be arguing for others in the future.
How come non of these witnesses told the pilot before the flight or before being hired?

They weren't people who were working at the company, but people who had flown in the previous months, or observed things on the spit/ at the AMO. They likely had no opportunity to tell him.
Why didn't these witnesses report this to TC??????
They did.
Whose fault was the accident?
I have never denied that the pilot may have made errors - but it was not his errors that caused the engine to fail, or for the incident to become an accident.

I am sorry I must disagree. He simply stated that TC understands that it is impossible to regulate that everyon ebe in constant ground contact at any and all times. Such things are not within the realm of feasibility in a country such as this.
I understand it is not possible to be in constant contact - given that, it should be required that positional reports be given frequently - for which a cell phone is inadequate. An operators communication system needs to be evaluated in reference to where it is operating. No one will ever convince me that an operator who does not have any kind of radio for flight following purposes (in office, or using someone elses), and has no back-up system of positional reporting, is operating safely.
I don't know MJM but I would venture to say that he didn't want anyone to die. Likely he got caught up in "keeping the contract" and flew to cheap and something had to be sacrificed. Most human nature is not to be stupid enough to knowingly hurt others and I doubt he is any different than that. Again, i don't know him. Maybe he is a real as_hole??
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From where I sit it looks like your efforts ought to be directed more towards the former executives and managers at the company, rather than TC.


We are going after the company (criminally, we cannot go after them civilly - everyone on board was working). The RCMP are unlikely to press charges, however, if TC will not say the company did anything wrong.

I doubt the owner of MJM "wanted anyone to die" either, however, his own history tells us he didn't make efforts to stop such things either. The "dispatch/office girl" at MJM was his girlfriend, and never trained according to witnesses. Less than two years before the accident, a worker of his died on a different type of job-site ... WCB found the company responsible - brakes not maintained, critical weld performed by unqualifed welder in improper environment, etc. One would think he would have learned from that incident to take better care of his equipment, but CGAQW, (and the aircraft he had leased and returned in poor condition) tell us he did not. Earlier this month, another worker died on another of his job sites .... maybe an unpreventable accident - we doubt it.

There is a lot of information on my website about this accident - follow the links to expert statements for a better understanding of what probably initiated things, and what turned an incident into a fatal accident. It is because of our pressure that TC has issued the new R-985 service bulletin. We are bringing up the engine next week, and that will put closure to the initiating event - but again, it was not engine failure that killed these guys.

PS. For those of you who are tired of me, stop reading my posts.
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I'm all for the GPS tracking system, if in remote area's a Sat phone is a great Idea to carry on board.....however

If you're flying on the coast with 1000' ceilings, you're flying low over the water. If the wind is light the water is glassy, then you see oil all over the windscreen and before you know it you're trying to pull yourself out of a damaged plane that is sinking, are you really going to be thinking damn let me grab my sat phone? Or i better call ops....no you are going to get out as fast as you can and hope someone finds you.

All I am trying to say is the problem here seems to be with maintenance and not putting money into that side of things. That is what i would be upset about, if poor maint. was involved....which sometimes is hard to prove. Flying in those conditions you want a plane that is looked after. I really don't see what constant communication with base would do to help this situation, other then to add another load on the pilots shoulders.....especially when flying low in adverse weather.

That being said GPS positioning equipment is well worth the price tag, that at least the pilot doesnt have to think about. We tried it out were iam working and it was quite a awesome thing.

I also don't believe that everyone flying should wear parachutes so take my post in stride, but this is my opinion. There are risks associated with flight. They should be minimized but regulating the industry to death isn't going to solve the problems........responsible ownership would.
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Post by Cat Driver »

" If you're flying on the coast with 1000' ceilings, you're flying low over the water "
Beechy, a thousand foot ceiling is severe clear for a west coast pilot.

Where the problems arise is flying in one hundred foot ceilings over glassy water and having to turn or land with an engine failure.

I am not sure what this pilots ceiling and vis was but a thousand feet should be no problem.
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The ceiling or failures is not the point anyway - if you have 30-minute check-ins and you miss one you will trigger a comm search and then a search and rescue response. You are unlikely to be able to call in the middle of an event, but you would be found a lot sooner.

We had hf radios in the 70s and we could call all over the coast. We had 30-minute check-ins plus landing and take-off calls back then.

Anyone interested enough can have constant comms even on the wet coast.

Flying the rest of the world you need sideband and you have selcal so you don't have to listen to it all the time. No big deal.
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i meant 100' ......i guess i hit the 0 one to many times....my bad :oops:
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" Anyone interested enough can have constant comms even on the wet coast. "
Exactly, there is zero reason not to have at least 1/2 hour check in and or landing and airborne contact with your base.

All this STC and installation stuff is a red herring.

If we had it decades ago has technology gone backwards?

I find it interesting that I had FM in my C185 Amphib 12 years ago and it cost peanuts and worked very well all over the west coast, and no one else has commented as to why they have not used it.
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I had fm's in all our airplanes for the past 15 years.This works well as we can monitor planes while doing work out of the office.We also have clients freq. installed.All airplanes carry sat phones as well.These are not that expensive to buy,and are a great tool for calling in when running late,or checking the weather.The globalstar(I have 3) have not been working very well in our area and was told today that the whole system may soon crash.I will be buying iridium to replace them.I may have to forgo a holiday I had planned,but feel its worth it.There is still times when the planes are out of contact,but they are alot less than without the sat phones and fm's.
Not sure what its like on the cost for glassy water,but in our area I and my pilots will go as far as required to go around a big lake,or island hop to get away from glassy water or a white out.If this adds extra miles to your trip...so what.Is this possible out there.
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xsbank wrote:The ceiling or failures is not the point anyway - if you have 30-minute check-ins and you miss one you will trigger a comm search and then a search and rescue response. You are unlikely to be able to call in the middle of an event, but you would be found a lot sooner.
This, alone, would have saved my husbands life, who was still alive and concious a full three hours after the crash.
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