Pasco Goose down, 7 fatal - Nov. 16, 2008

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All names have now been released on CBC.ca

My sincere condolences to family and friends, as well as everyone at Pasco.

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A link for those that need to know...

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columb ... ation.html


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A sad day for the industry. RIP.
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Nice to see a thread that didn't turn to speculation and has so many nice thoughts put forward. I worked for Pasco and still have someone in the family who does now. They are a long time, safe operation, with some very bad luck this year.
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PRESS RELEASE

On Sunday, November 16th, at approximately 1015 PST, a Pacific Coastal Airlines Grumman Goose departed Vancouver South Terminal with seven passengers and one pilot onboard. This charter flight for Peter Kiewit Sons Co. and Plutonic Power Corporation was bound for the Toba Montrose run-of-river hydroelectric project, north of Powell River, British Columbia. The aircraft crashed enroute at Thormanby Island, 50 kms. northwest of Vancouver.

It is confirmed that there is one (1) survivor and seven (7) fatalities. The names of those onboard will not be released by Pacific Coastal Airlines.

Pacific Coastal Airlines will be doing everything possible to assist the Transportation Safety Board (TSB) in their investigation in order to determine the cause of this tragic event. Pacific Coastal Airlines has voluntarily suspended its float plane operation until the company has had an opportunity to debrief with all of its employees.

Our heartfelt thoughts and prayers go out to the families, friends and colleagues of everyone who has been touched by this tragic accident.

Spencer Smith
VP, Customer Service & Communication.

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WJ700 wrote:Nice to see a thread that didn't turn to speculation and has so many nice thoughts put forward. I worked for Pasco and still have someone in the family who does now. They are a long time, safe operation, with some very bad luck this year.
You are correct, but the "why, how and how can we avoid this in the future....." questions are right around the corner. We have to learn from these things, no matter how much of a tragic occurrence it was. Soon.
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I have flown many medevacs in the Goose years ago when I worked in Prince Rupert. I have the utmost respect for the machine and the pilots who flew them. My heart aches for the families of the pilot and passengers of that flight.
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From the reports this seems like another instance of the ELT not working.
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robbreid wrote:Photos of C-GGDJ aircraft lost in this accident.

ASN accident report and news video
Not important in the grand scheme of things, but it was C-FPCK; ASN is wrong and I have attempted to correct the misinformation.

CL

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I heard that the TSB is not taking the wreck for examination ... can anyone confirm?
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Are the rest of the PASCO fleet flying again?
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are or "is" the rest of the fleet flying ....
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My Oxford dictionary says that either works... had me for a second, though..
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Added Peter to our fallen comrades forum:

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=49127

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Re: Pasco Goose down, 7 fatal - Nov. 16, 2008

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MEDIA ADVISORY - TSB Releases Final Investigation Report on the Crash of a Grumman G-21A on Thormanby Island, British Columbia

GATINEAU, QC, Sept. 20 /CNW/ - The Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB) will hold a media availability on September 22, 2010, to make public the TSB investigation report (A08P0353) into the fatal crash on Thormanby Island, British Columbia, on November 16, 2008.

The Investigator-in-Charge, Mr. Travis Shelongosky and Mr. Bill Yearwood, Manager, Air Investigation Operations, Pacific Region, will be available to answer questions and provide interviews on site. Mr. Daryl Collins, Senior Air Investigator will be available by telephone to answer questions in French.


When: Starting at 10 a.m. Pacific time on September 22, 2010

Who: Mr. Travis Shelongosky, Investigator-in-Charge
Mr. Bill Yearwood, Manager of Air Investigations, Pacific Region

Where: Aspen Room
Four Seasons Hotel
791 West Georgia Street
Vancouver, British Columbia

For a French interview: Mr. Daryl Collins, Senior Investigator - Air Investigations
(by telephone)

To schedule an interview: Transportation Safety Board of Canada
Media Relations
Telephone: 819-994-8053

The news release will be posted, at the same time, on the TSB website
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Re: Pasco Goose down, 7 fatal - Nov. 16, 2008

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Yes, pretty accurate headline. Seems like this accident was almost inevitable due to the pilot's risky behaviour.

Also interesting to note that the ELT was destroyed and did not transmit, but the SPOT helped them narrow down the search area (it was also destroyed, but the breadcrumb trail helped them narrow down the search area).
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Re: Pasco Goose down, 7 fatal - Nov. 16, 2008

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Not one recommendation?

From the report:
1.11 Transport Canada Oversight of VFR Minima Compliance
Between November 1999 and January 2009, TC’s Aviation Enforcement Section initiated
20 actions in the Pacific Region pertaining to contraventions of regulations concerning VFR
Minimum Visual Meteorological Conditions. Of these, no punitive actions resulted.
Compliance with a regulation requires both operator acceptance of the required behaviours and
effective enforcement by TC. Identifying pilots and operators that fly below VFR minima is
difficult unless a customer reports an issue or a TC inspector is present when the violation
occurs. In addition, TC has delegated the majority of PPC rides to approved check pilots. As a
result, TC inspectors have fewer opportunities to identify such hazardous practices through
regular contact with, and observation of, pilots.
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Re: Pasco Goose down, 7 fatal - Nov. 16, 2008

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Jonathan Huggett is speaking to Bill Good on CKNW 980 radio in Vancouver right now.

He is hitting all the points. So well spoken. I hope this will be available as a podcast afterwards.

http://www.cknw.com/Channels/Reg/News/T ... dShow.aspx
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