Private airstrips...what are the rules?

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Is a hospital landing pad for public or private (restricted) use? Of course you know the answer.
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Of course I know, but you were trying to make a case that a private strip was private because of who financed it. I'm sure my tax money paid for those pads, so your case doesn't stand up.
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Applying that logic Mag Check why don't you go land at Cold Lake (AFB) and see how far into the wringer your arse goes. You can always claim that your tax dollars helped pay for it so you should be able to use it. Let us know how it turns out ok. Get permission first....... probably be ok. Oh and by the way I wouldn't interfer with your takeoff roll. Get it.
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MUSKEG wrote:Applying that logic Mag Check why don't you go land at Cold Lake (AFB) and see how far into the wringer your arse goes. You can always claim that your tax dollars helped pay for it so you should be able to use it. Let us know how it turns out ok. Get permission first....... probably be ok. Oh and by the way I wouldn't interfer with your takeoff roll. Get it.
It wan't my logic, it was Mrwing. Please follow the thread, and read my posts.
I completely understand where I can and can't land. The problem is that some others here don't.
Oh and by the way, it is spelled "interfere" not "interfer", and thanks, cause the borer prop can really make a mess of things.
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I wasn't making that claim at all. That was your flawed inference to my post. If you still think that was my intention then you are wrong.

If you know where you can and you can't land then you'll stay off private strips that you have no permission to be on.

Case closed.
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Sure go for it, I'm sure a bore prop can easily chew through steel and 1 inch thick rubber. I have read your posts and you keep saying no one can interfere with the operation of an aircraft. You can't seem to differentiate between public and private. It's the same attitude that people who run over a farmers crop, cut his fence, and generally make a nuisance of themselves display. (Whats mine I don't give a crap about and whats yours I'll treat it the same)
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Cat Driver wrote:
and an unwelcome visit... well just say that 12 guage HP slugs make nast holes in aluminum.
Which in turn would probably result in a charge of dangerous use of a fire arm.

This charge under the criminal code can be brought under indictment, which can result in jail time..
... And probably would not that I would condone such extreme reactions, but one should realise that when one decides to test the theory out that every field is a welcome one, that other people might not think the same way. I am merely pointing out that many of the people who own fields in this country are also ones who own the majority of firearms in this country. I must also say that its been the attitude of a few pilots out there - especially in the general aviation crowd - which have ruined the generally "welcome fields" we used to have.

I should note too that there are many means of dealing with unwelcome airplanes that don't involve the extremes of firearms. They usually involve curious cows, unfortunately placed manuer piles and errant Massey Fergusons. :wink:
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You all will have to forgive me for not understanding how society got to here.

I was born in Newfoundland and the culture there was and still is vastly different to the attitudes that seem to be so prevalent here.

But I guess us Newfies are just ignorant hicks anyhow.
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MrWings wrote:I wasn't making that claim at all. That was your flawed inference to my post. If you still think that was my intention then you are wrong.

If you know where you can and you can't land then you'll stay off private strips that you have no permission to be on.

Case closed.
Hmmm, if you say you read my posts, then I would suggest a trip to your local optomitrist, cause you seem to have a problem with your eyes.
If you note right here,
Again, I would NOT land at a private field without prior permission, as I'm sure "most" wouldn't
You can see that I make my personal stance quite clear.

I also make the same point here:
I'm not saying that I would do that, in fact far from it, as I enjoy my privacy more than most,
So how about actually READING what I write, instead of putting words in my mouth(posts)

Ok, for the guys that seem to have a problem reading, I say t again, I WOULD NOT land at a "private" aerodrome without prior permission.
I think alot of the guys here are the kind that think the water in front of their cottage is their property too, and that planes shouldn't be able to shoot circuits there.
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Engine Guy,

This is rather pointless. So you live in valuable real estate. Who cares. I only care about my real estate. So your horses are better than my horses okay.....

No anger here, just clear and direct communication. Many people these days don't understand subtle hints so I find that clarity of thought and directness oif communication works best. No room for confusion.

Now about that hug.... :smt008
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[[/quote]Actually, I'm pretty sure that that is what it means.
If it is an "unregistered" runway, then it shoulded be maked as closed with X's if you don't want people landing. If it is a "registered" runway, then you should have a NOTAM filed if you are parking a tractor in the middle of the strip to prevent arcraft from landing.[/quote]

Sorry but there is no requirement in cars or anywhere else that states that I have to mark my private strip with any markings.
As i stated earlier, I have driven my tractor onto the runway due to dangerous condition at certain times of the year.I have also done it while an a/c is on approach. Better him to overshoot and go elsewhere that flip on my field.
At one time , I would have welcomed strangers but with all the lawsuits nowadays that has ruined it for me.
Just an observation but many of these comments on this thread smell of people that don't actually have private strips and have not gone thru some of the situations the rest of us have .Believe me , even though it is nice to have a private strip, there is still a certain amount of pain involved.
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Sorry but there is no requirement in cars or anywhere else that states that I have to mark my private strip with any markings
That may be true, however by putting X's at each end of the runway it would make it easier to keep your strip private.
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EngineGuy wrote:
timexd wrote:Now about that hug.... :smt008
I said a hug, that was it... You kissed me in the end and that was just gay!!! :shock: :oops:
Not that there is anything wrong with that :lol:
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Common guys! X's mean closed. They don't mean closed to some and not to others. How would your friend, whom you've previously welcomed, despite those X's, know that you now have a big sink hole in the strip?

That's what registering a strip is for. Register as prior permision required!
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Prairie Chicken wrote:Common guys! X's mean closed. They don't mean closed to some and not to others. How would your friend, whom you've previously welcomed, despite those X's, know that you now have a big sink hole in the strip?

That's what registering a strip is for. Register as prior permision required!
Yes, by all means register it if possible. Then there is no confusion as you would be required to mark any unservicable area's in accordance with CARS(which doesn't seem to mention parking tractors in the middle of the runway to stop unwanted traffic).
Even if you don't register, why not mark the runway in accordance with the published regs?
If you have a soft muddy spot on your grass strip, mark the runway as unservicable with red cones like the regs state, cause really, driving a heavy tractor out on that soft grass cant be good anyway. :roll:
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Cat Driver wrote:You all will have to forgive me for not understanding how society got to here.
Like many things a few ruined things for many. You used to be able to hitchike and use spank your children, but some psycho out there took things too far and now we can't. Interestingly enough, where do you think the term "bought the farm" came from? For those out there not up on things like this it came from pilots crashing airplanes on farms, getting killed and their estate or insurance essentially purchacing the farm after all the damages were paid for. So its not like things have really changed that much since aviation has started and landowners and pilots have come to disagreement - only the fact that nowadays, like accidents with coffee that is too hot, high priced lawyers get involved. We've already had the discussion on how people these days can't take responsibility for their own actions and safety anymore.
I was born in Newfoundland and the culture there was and still is vastly different to the attitudes that seem to be so prevalent here.
Now THAT answers a lot of questions. :wink: Next time you have a disagreement with TC, tell them you're from Ontario or better yet, Quebec. You might get more cooperation. :D
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Now THAT answers a lot of questions. :wink: Next time you have a disagreement with TC, tell them you're from Ontario or better yet, Quebec. You might get more cooperation.
If I needed a crutch to deal with TCCA I could use my Indian status, that trumps being from Ont. or Que. combined and squared. :mrgreen:

Fortunately they ( TCCA ) are such cretins at the top it is easy to out think them. :mrgreen:
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