stickontheice wrote:What I find strange is that you used a body that is "governed" by the Province of British Columbia to get your personal information, picture, and signature notarized. In that end you have an unofficial Province of British Columbia Identification card. Your ploy to confused the Customer Service Agent didn't work and now you're angry about it.
I checked out your website and more specifically your forum. Quite the bunch you have going on there. Ninjas and wolverines who specialize in hydroponics and energy trying to get out of student loans, trying to get out of traffic tickets or screwing over the hard working police. Use that above average intelligence you claim to have and gain meaningful employment that contributes to society instead of trying to "...claiming and seizing a valley...”
You broke your contract when you showed up without proper government issued ID. You entered a contract with WJ that you would follow rules laid out by WJ and Transport Canada when you purchased the ticket or agreed to exercise the privileges of that ticket.
What bothers me the most is that you want to fly WJ but you won't do your part to ensure our safety? By providing proper identification you're ensuring that you are who you say you are. At the end of the day I want my company to do everything it can to ensure that I'm safe and that my crew is safe too. I'm thankful you were denied boarding and that the system works. We have families and I don't want someone on my plane who wants to engage in terrorism. Who are you to put my safety at risk???
What I find strange is that you used a body that is "governed" by the Province of British Columbia to get your personal information, picture, and signature notarized. In that end you have an unofficial Province of British Columbia Identification card. Your ploy to confused the Customer Service Agent didn't work and now you're angry about it.
Notaries are not a body bound to serve anyone. They serve their oaths and anyone can hold them to it. The government has nothing to do with it. Their existence in BC was fought against by both the Law Society and the Government of the day. The argument used successfully by the Notary Society was that someone had to exist as witness and provide remedy against potential governmental and judicial abuses and that the Notaries were impartial witness which could be used against government and the courts. How else do you sue or hold accountable these people was a key part of their argument. Look it up.
I checked out your website and more specifically your forum. Quite the bunch you have going on there. Ninjas and wolverines who specialize in hydroponics and energy trying to get out of student loans, trying to get out of traffic tickets or screwing over the hard working police. Use that above average intelligence you claim to have and gain meaningful employment that contributes to society instead of trying to "...claiming and seizing a valley...”
i don't know this deserves a response...
You broke your contract when you showed up without proper government issued ID. You entered a contract with WJ that you would follow rules laid out by WJ and Transport Canada when you purchased the ticket or agreed to exercise the privileges of that ticket.
Now we get to the nitty gritty. I did not break our contract, you did would be my position. The reason is this: there is nothing in the rules or regulations you refer to that states I need have government issued identification. It merely states you need ask to see it, it does not say if you do not that you are to deny flight rights. And if the rules do require the abandoning of existing rights, well that by definition is tyranny.
What bothers me the most is that you want to fly WJ but you won't do your part to ensure our safety? By providing proper identification you're ensuring that you are who you say you are. At the end of the day I want my company to do everything it can to ensure that I'm safe and that my crew is safe too. I'm thankful you were denied boarding and that the system works. We have families and I don't want someone on my plane who wants to engage in terrorism. Who are you to put my safety at risk???
Wow, that is unbelievable... Absolutely beyond comprehension to me... used to be it was having something like a bomb or a gun or some form of weapon that made you a terrorist, now we have crossed the line to where NOT HAVING SOMETHING ISSUED BY THE GOVERNMENT is what defines you as a potential terrorist. Are we being serious here? I am a threat not because of what I have but because of what I do not have? Is this where you are at? Holy Mack Her All...
As for doing my part, what about a Peace Bond and an Indemnity Bond used to protect you, help you with your unjustified fear, identify myself fully and completely and still I would not have government issued identification resulting from a submission or application. Bear in mind, I will put up $30K on the table in order to prove who I am and that I am not a threat to your safety or that of anyone else. Do the people who have government issued id do anything like that? If my actions are not sufficient, then your claims fall flat quickly.
The fact that you believe that those who do not have government issued id are a threat merely for that reason is amazing to me. Seriously it is beyond comprehension and then when I factor in the fact you think I am of unsound mind I become concerned about your actions and what you would be able to justify to yourself. I too have family, and do not want them harmed, and people of your outlook are a threat to anyone with a mind.
No one wants someone on (in) a plane that wants to engage in terrorism. Not me not you. What makes you think I want to do such a thing merely because I refuse to abandon my rights? I refuse to submit or apply. I do not intend or claim the right to engage in terrorism. But apparently I am someone to be feared as one would a terrorist, because I ask questions, and refuse to submit.
Seriously unbelievable....
PS - To the Mods: I do appreciate your forum, and do not seek to be disruptive and I thank you for your patience and consideration. My original intent was not to infiltrate, and nor is it now to harm.