G8/G20 VIP air travel

[robbreid]

More YYZ movements June 22

D-CCCB Learjet 35A
LX-ONE Learjet 35A
RA-86559 IL-62M Rossiya


Movements June 23

7Q-ONE Falcon 900EX Malawi 1
CS-DBF Falcon 900
144601 Challanger CAF
5N-FGT Boeing BBJ Nigerian Govt.

[C-GOYR]

I wonder if the petro canada on airport road will be off limits too.

[IFRATC]

OK OK. I apologize if I came off a bit pompous in my posts. That was not my intention. Hopefully this will clarify.
My only point is that we cannot as mandated by ATC MANOPS disseminate or divulge actual timings of movements. I can't tell you when to show up or when specific movements are occuring or going to occur. I have NO authority to tell you when, where, and how to get information on anything. We just can't give it out. We could face disciplinary action for breaching this rule as mandated by MANOPS.
I am ex-miltary, former pilot, and I to love to plane spot like the next guy. Especially when it involves movements of planes that are out of the norm. I don't want to piss on anyones parade. Looking back at this thread I believe I came off to harsh. I can understand how some may have sensed a bit of elitist in my typing. THAT was never my initial intent. Happy plane spotting...
I hope this ends this part of the hijacked thread...

IFRATC

[C-FABH]

South African contingent just arrived with their BBJ, the Algerians are due in later this afternoon.

[sheephunter]

Just went into town (Huntsville). Normally it takes 4 minute from my house to the Metro Store. Today it took three minutes. I picked up a couple extra steaks for the weekend and walked to the check-out and didn't even have to wait in line. That's a first in about 3 years. If it weren't for OPP on foot patrol and in vehicles, there would basically be no one around. Counted 26 black & white OPP cruisers going into town and 32 coming home again. Things are very quiet, I wander if this is what it's all about?? Also, pretty quiet in the sky but now that the storm seems to have blown through maybe that will change.

[Moose47]

G'day

A Transair 737 was here (CYYB) the other day deplaning about 70 military types in civvies.

Lots of exec type traffic over the last week.

We have one Russian Air Force Ил-76 Mд on the Voyager ramp (s/n RA-78818) with another apparently coming in. There is a good possibility of further overflow traffic.

The CF-18's are operating out of here providing CAP.

Cheers...Chris

[mag check]

C 17 has been in twice today to YQA, pretty cool display, forgot that I had my camera so didn't get anything. Hopefully they will be back.

I don't think that I have ever seen so many tinted out suv's and mini vans in my life, and the popularity of cb antenna's sure has increased.

[winds_in_flight_wtf]

USAF aircraft im guessing?

[mag check]

Yes American, from the 305th out of NJ.

The OPP took off in their T206 with some kind of camera on the left side(I think), gotta say, I wasn't impressed with how the engine sounded, I would guess it has at least 2 jugs that aren't making power.
Steady flow of helicopters, 412's, rcmp astars, also what I believe to be rcmp caravan, but could be wrong about that.

[tedcuthbert]

c17's into YQA....cool must be a record heavy weight for that runway. British PM landing YYZ right now
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR9979

[mag check]

Yes very cool birds. I would say that it is a good thing that it wasn't 30+c or they would have pounded it right up to the axles they definately don't finess it onto the ground

[tedcuthbert]

OK, so they did shuttle G8 participants from YYZ to Deerhurst in Griffon's http://webcast.streamlogics.com.edgesui ... &sid=237&e
A bit crude, but effective,.. it sets a serious tone for the meetings. All we're missing now are Obama and Sarkozy.......

[robbreid]

YYZ movements June 24

VQ-BSP Falcon 7X
ZS-RSA BBJ South African Air Force
86-0023 C5B Galaxy USAF
86-0020 C5B Galaxy USAF
YV2152 Citation II
7T-VPG Gulfstream V
7T-VPP Airbus A340-500 Algerian Govt.
FAC0001 BBJ Columbian Govt.
9H-BBJ BBJ Ghana Govt.
MM62243 Airbus A319 Italian Govt.
RA-96016 IL-96-300 Rossiya
RA-86559 IL-62M Rossiya
ET-ALZ B757 Ethiopian Airlines
RA-96018 IL-96-300 Rossiya
EC-KBR Gulfstream V
RA-67222 Challenger 604
10+22 Airbus A310 German AF
G-VSUN Airbus A340-300 Virgin
20-1101 Boeing 747-47C Japan JASDF
20-1102 Boeing 747-47C Japan JASDF

[tedcuthbert]

Air Force one descending into YYZ right now.

[winds_in_flight_wtf]

thought obama was already in town? Don't they usually stop traffic 30 min prior to his arrival?

[robbreid]

YYZ movements June 25

TC-ANA Airbus A319CJ Turkish Air Force
T-01 Boeing 757 Argentina Govt.
HZ-AIF Boeing 747SP Saudi Govt.
HZ-AIY Boeing 747-400 Saudi Govt.
HZ-HM1A Boeing 747-300 Saudi Govt.
HZ-HMED Boeing 757-200 Saudi Govt.
HZ-SNA Airbus A310 Saudi Arabia
HZ-MFL Gulfstream IV Saudi Govt.
N767A Boeing 757-200 ARAMCO (Saudi Oil Company)
A36-001 Boeing BBJ Australian Air Force
I-SEAS Falcon 900 Italy
M-YAAA Global Express Manx Register (base?? Singapore??)
EC-JPK Gulfstream V Spain
F-RAFA Falcon 7X French AF
F-RAFB Falcon 7X French AF
F-RBFA Airbus A319CJ French AF
F-RBBB Airbus A319CJ French AF
98-0001 Boeing 757 USAF
82-8000 Boeing 747-200 USAF (Obama arr 10:30)

and assort. airliners Air China, Garuda, Virgin

[tedcuthbert]

thanks for posting robbreid, must be getting tight for parking up at YYZ. Good to see YQA has been getting well used, I believe Sarkozy was the only leader to fly in there, but i hear other VIP's + support, have been in there. Leaders are expected to be shuttled downtown around noon today & dropped at the foot of the CN tower for the start of the G20, weather is a bit sketchy but ceilings are high (at least in Toronto).

[mag check]

Here's some pics from thurs, and fri, not great quality, only had a point and click, but it's something.
Hold on, having some technical difficulties, brb.

[mag check]

Alrighty then, lets try again

[mag check]

Sarcozy and his posse arriving.

[Thunderstrike]

I live in downtown Toronto. Just saw 4 Griffons enter the downtown area low level. CP24's chopper is still hanging around. There's also an Aurora circling the area a couple thousand feet up.

TS

[Unusual Attitude]

From yesterday (June 25) YYZ.

[updownupdownupdown]

This is the speculated list from last years events (from airliners.net) There are going to be MANY delays, and an officer every 100m around the perimeter. During AF1s arrival all surrounding access roads etc will be blocked. It will be parked at the GTAA hangars (its been locked down and is currently under 24/7 patrol)

Argentina
Argentine Air Force Boeing 757-23A T-01

Australia
Royal Australian Air Force Boeing 737-7DT A36-002

Brazil
Brazilian Air Force Boeing VC-96 2115
Brazilian Air Force Boeing VC-96 2116
Brazilian Air Force Airbus VC-1A 2101

Canada
Canadian Air Force Canadair CC-144C 144618
Canadian Air Force Canadair CC-144C unknown

Ethiopia
Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 767-360ER ET-ALO

France
French Air Force Dassault Falcon 7x F-RAFA
French Air Force Airbus A319-115XCJ F-RBFA

Germany
German Air Force Airbus A310-304 10+21

India
Air India Boeing 747-437 VT-ESN

Indonesia
Garuda Indonesian Airlines Airbus A330-341 PK-GPA

Italy
Italian Air Force Dassault Falcon 900EX MM-62171
Italian Air Force Airbus A319-115XCJ MM-62209

Japan
Japanese Air Force Boeing 747-47C 20-1101
Japanese Air Force Boeing 747-47C 20-1102

Mexico
Mexican Air Force Boeing 757-225 TP-01
Hawker 850XP XA-CHG

Russia
Rossiya Airlines Ilyushin IL-96-300 RA-96019
Russian State Transport Co. Ilyushin IL-96-300 RA-96016
Russian State Transport Co. Ilyushin IL-96-300 RA-96018
Russian State Transport Co. Ilyushin IL-62M RA-86540
Russian State Transport Co. Ilyushin IL-62M RA-86561
Russian Air Force Ilyushin IL-76MD RA-76719
Russian Air Force Ilyushin IL-76MD RA-76719
Xiamen Aviation Bombardier BD-700-1A10 P4-AAA

Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabian Ministry of Finance Gulfstream G300 HZ-MF3
Saudi Aramco Aviation Boeing 767-2AX/ER N767A

South Africa
South African Air Force Boeing 737-7ED ZS-RSA

South Korea
Asiana Airlines Boeing 747-48E HL-7428

Spain
Spanish Air Force Airbus A310-304 45-51

Sweden
Swedish Air Force Gulfstream Tp102A 102001
Swedish Air Force Gulfstream Tp102C 102004

Turkey
Turkish Air Force Airbus A319-115XCJ TC-ANA

United Kingdom
Virgin Atlantic Airlines Boeing 747-4Q8 G-VFAB

United States
United States Air Force Boeing VC-25A 92-9000
United States Air Force Boeing C-40B 01-0041
United States Air Force Boeing C-17A 04-4136
United States Air Force Boeing C-17A unknown
United States Air Force Boeing KC-135T 59-1468
United States Air Force Boeing KC-135T 59-1490
United States Air Force Lockheed C-5B 85-0002
United States Air Force Lockheed Martin EC-130J 96-8154
United States Army Short C-23C 90-07015
United States Army Sikorsky UH-60L 91-26328
United States Army Sikorsky UH-60L 91-26974
United States Coast Guard Aerospatiale HH-65C unknown
United States Coast Guard Aerospatiale HH-65C unknown
United States Marine Corps VH-60N unknown
United States DHS Pilatus PC-12/45 N593PC
United States FBI Bell 407 *****
United States FBI Bell 407 *****
United States FBI Bell 412 *****
United States FBI Bell 412 *****
United States FBI Sikorsky UH-60Q 08-20174
United States FBI Cessna R182 *****
United States FBI (chartered) Boeing 727-200 N720CK
United States ICE Pilatus PC-12/45 N541PB
Pennsylvania State Police Agusta SPA A119 N165P
Pennsylvania State Police Bell 206L-3 N153P
Pennsylvania State Police Bell 206L-3 N173P
Pennsylvania State Police Cessna 208B N1287G
Pennsylvania DOT Raytheon B300 N81PA

It's kind of funny that the Brazilians don't fly Ebraers isn't it?

[airmech07]

at around 10:30 tonight I was looking at the Jazz hangar and all of a sudden 2 presidental limos showed up with SUVs and parked infront of the gate then some security guys went to zet's to get food and then the convoy continued through to airside...strange...looked like obama's ride though. No police...no flashing lights...i find that very strange

UPDATE: Turns out it was obama's rides, but they were loading them into a Globemaster infronto of Air Canada Hangar

[tedcuthbert]

Well, the one thing I learned from my little foray into the gov't leaders air travel, was that it takes an obscene amount of $$ to move these guys around. Now I understand the security issues and they are heads of state after all, but it seems much of the spending is excessive, particularly for some countries that just don't have the $$. Of course the most obscene is the U.S., the cost to move the president around is in the hundreds of millions of dollars per year ( I read somewhere that 800 marines are employed just to operate the fleet of approx 12 Marine One helicopters)...and people were complaining about auto execs flying around in challengers & citations. Perhaps one of Obama's steps to deficit reduction can be cutting back a little there.