Corona Virus

[2R]

Some good news from the Land of Oz .
Ivermectin trade name Stromrctol had been working in petris dishes to effectively kill the virus .
The drug is already approved for Scabies and parasites with few known side effects .
Might be safer than the hydroxychloroquine and cheaper

Help is coming

[7ECA]

The worse part is that Facebook and Youtube try to show you articles and videos that match with your interests. It makes things worse. They'll hardly ever voluntarily show you something you don't agree with.

It's a phenomena called the internet echo chamber. Those algorithms that analyze your viewing preferences and suggest things that you may be interested in watching/viewing, have the effect of insulating people from opinions that are opposed to their own. You end up in a feedback loop of sorts, this is my opinion; and these people also have the same/similar opinions to my own - and all I see are people with my opinion; thus my opinion is correct and irrefutable! Everyone else out there is clearly an idiot, if they do not hold the same opinions/views that I do...

As to 2R, interesting about Ivermectin. Have to see how that pans out in testing/studies. Certainly better than using anti-malarial drugs that require extremely precise dosing as many people (some deceased, many others in ICU) have found out the hard way. Apparently the US is now threatening India over the supply of generic anti-malarials... Incredible.

[Heliian]

Some good news from the Land of Oz .
Ivermectin trade name Stromrctol had been working in petris dishes to effectively kill the virus .
The drug is already approved for Scabies and parasites with few known side effects .
Might be safer than the hydroxychloroquine and cheaper

Help is coming

Any proof?

Avgas would probably kill it in a petri dish too.

Why hasn't anyone used dewormer on a coronavirus before?

[rookiepilot]

Some years ago there was a guy, really good stick, could fly circles around most folks here. His communication methods may have been a bit rough around the edges but he really knew the airplanes inside and out. He got banned for life for being rough around the edges in communication styles.

The pelmet crap seems to have overrun the site, made it mostly useless. Why is this still allowed to continue. In the 20 years I have participated here, signal to noise ratio has always been poor, but now it's gone pretty much to zero. When are the mods going to send pelmet off to the same place that fella selling crappy chicken went...

[valleyboy]

does anyone else feel like me about the absurdity dift on this thread.

[shimmydampner]

Any time now, mods....

There is no violation and people can have ideas different than yours, right or wrong it's not a crime. You should just deal with it instead of calling for their censure.

Oh relax. Years ago they got rid of the miscellaneous forum and it was decided that discussions should be aviation related. That's my issue. This has nothing to do with aviation. Don't get me wrong, this is wildly entertaining.
But seriously mods, just re-open the miscellaneous forum if you're going to allow this freak show.

[mbav8r]

Any time now, mods....

There is no violation and people can have ideas different than yours, right or wrong it's not a crime. You should just deal with it instead of calling for their censure.

Oh relax. Years ago they got rid of the miscellaneous forum and it was decided that discussions should be aviation related. That's my issue. This has nothing to do with aviation. Don't get me wrong, this is wildly entertaining.
But seriously mods, just re-open the miscellaneous forum if you're going to allow this freak show.

Thread drift aside, how does the coronavirus have nothing to do with Aviation? It has decimated the worlds airlines and continues to wreak havoc.

[Rockie]

Really glad I don’t live in the US although we sadly won’t totally escape the damage from that unmitigated disaster. Survival of their own citizens isn’t even enough for them to put an end to that criminal train wreck.

But by all means keep talking about changing guidance on face masks.

[altiplano]

Any time now, mods....

There is no violation and people can have ideas different than yours, right or wrong it's not a crime. You should just deal with it instead of calling for their censure.

Oh relax. Years ago they got rid of the miscellaneous forum and it was decided that discussions should be aviation related. That's my issue. This has nothing to do with aviation. Don't get me wrong, this is wildly entertaining.
But seriously mods, just re-open the miscellaneous forum if you're going to allow this freak show.

I'm relaxed.

I feel as though you're getting a little uptight though... who cares.

[tsgarp]

We are doomed. The virus will not kill that many people in the grand scheme of things. The coming economic collapse however, is likely to put Western Civilization into the same position the Soviets found themselves in post collapse. The US debt, combined with the economic shutdown and low oil prices could very well bring about the end of the US dollar as the world reserve currency (A key Chinese goal). Once the world decides they no longer need US dollars, the US really has nothing left to sell (No manufacturing, software development is mostly Asian now). Once that happens, all they will have is a large military.....and a massive chip on their shoulder while dealing with an ascendant China. This two months of self-isolation might be good practice for dealing with the fallout from that confrontation.

[doiwannabeapilot]

perhaps

We are doomed. The virus will not kill that many people in the grand scheme of things. The coming economic collapse however, is likely to put Western Civilization into the same position the Soviets found themselves in post collapse. The US debt, combined with the economic shutdown and low oil prices could very well bring about the end of the US dollar as the world reserve currency (A key Chinese goal). Once the world decides they no longer need US dollars, the US really has nothing left to sell (No manufacturing, software development is mostly Asian now). Once that happens, all they will have is a large military.....and a massive chip on their shoulder while dealing with an ascendant China. This two months of self-isolation might be good practice for dealing with the fallout from that confrontation.

[Heliian]

We are doomed. The virus will not kill that many people in the grand scheme of things. The coming economic collapse however, is likely to put Western Civilization into the same position the Soviets found themselves in post collapse. The US debt, combined with the economic shutdown and low oil prices could very well bring about the end of the US dollar as the world reserve currency (A key Chinese goal). Once the world decides they no longer need US dollars, the US really has nothing left to sell (No manufacturing, software development is mostly Asian now). Once that happens, all they will have is a large military.....and a massive chip on their shoulder while dealing with an ascendant China. This two months of self-isolation might be good practice for dealing with the fallout from that confrontation.

The economies of the entire world are being depressed by the pandemic. Once the pandemic has passed, the economies of the world will regain strength again.

Some commodities will be decimated no doubt but this whole chicken little collapse scenario won't happen. People like you are just trying to scare up some market activity to benefit your own personal interest, ala fake news.

In fact, there will be a massive surge trying to get back to normalcy.

We are in a pause, my advice is to hold all investments until this passes.

Next thing you know, all the gold selling idiots will be here telling us all about how much they have stockpiled for when currencies disappear and we need to trade shiney metal for goods.

[ayseven]

Well said.

Is the glass half empty or half full? The only real thing we can change right now is our attitude.

Aviation is not dead. It is "resting".

[pelmet]

"Biden adviser, ObamaCare architect Zeke Emanuel says US should 'prepare' for coronavirus measures to last 18 months"

"I know that's dreadful news to hear," the Biden adviser continued. "How are people supposed to find work if this goes on in some form for a year and a half? Is all that economic pain worth trying to stop COVID-19? The truth is we have no choice. ... We cannot return to normal until there's a vaccine. Conferences, concerts, sporting events, religious services, dinner in a restaurant, none of that will resume until we find a vaccine, a treatment, or a cure."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... -18-months

[valleyboy]

and don't forget there are companies, like amazon, who are making a shit load off this. Ironically our industry(whole travel industry) is one of the biggest factors in the spread. Unnecessary travel has become the norm.

[rookiepilot]

We are doomed. The virus will not kill that many people in the grand scheme of things. The coming economic collapse however, is likely to put Western Civilization into the same position the Soviets found themselves in post collapse. The US debt, combined with the economic shutdown and low oil prices could very well bring about the end of the US dollar as the world reserve currency (A key Chinese goal). Once the world decides they no longer need US dollars, the US really has nothing left to sell (No manufacturing, software development is mostly Asian now). Once that happens, all they will have is a large military.....and a massive chip on their shoulder while dealing with an ascendant China. This two months of self-isolation might be good practice for dealing with the fallout from that confrontation.

The economies of the entire world are being depressed by the pandemic. Once the pandemic has passed, the economies of the world will regain strength again.

Some commodities will be decimated no doubt but this whole chicken little collapse scenario won't happen. People like you are just trying to scare up some market activity to benefit your own personal interest, ala fake news.

In fact, there will be a massive surge trying to get back to normalcy.

We are in a pause, my advice is to hold all investments until this passes.

Next thing you know, all the gold selling idiots will be here telling us all about how much they have stockpiled for when currencies disappear and we need to trade shiney metal for goods.

Really? Tell me more. What are you invested in, perhaps I'll short it.

[tsgarp]

The economies of the entire world are being depressed by the pandemic. Once the pandemic has passed, the economies of the world will regain strength again.

Maybe, but I doubt it. The amount of debt and fiat currency Western nations are creating right now, combined with already high levels of debt and the hostile intentions of the Chinese and Russians means that the repercussions from this event are going to be deep and long lasting.

Some commodities will be decimated no doubt but this whole chicken little collapse scenario won't happen. People like you are just trying to scare up some market activity to benefit your own personal interest, ala fake news.

If I were powerful enough to 'scare up market activity to benefit' my personal interest I wouldn't be using Avcanada to do it!

In fact, there will be a massive surge trying to get back to normalcy.

Nope, there will be a massive wave of debt default.

We are in a pause, my advice is to hold all investments until this passes.

@#$! no! Totally Wrong! Sell everything you own, (car, house, wife, pets), buy Bullets, Beans and Bullion then start hiking North!

[mixturerich]

Once the pandemic has passed, the economies of the world will regain strength again.

In fact, there will be a massive surge trying to get back to normalcy.

What? Literally every economist out there is saying the complete opposite of you. A long and slow recovery. What suddenly makes you an expert on this?

[ehv8oar]

You gotta laugh at some of the - we're all doomed!!!! - comments on here.

Up until this virus happening the world was ticking along quite nicely. A huge wave of retirements and more and more people wanting to travel meant plenty of jobs in the aerospace industry. That's still true and people will want to travel as soon as possible after being caged up in their homes for the last few weeks.

The only thing that governments, thankfully not the Canadian government, are doing that could screw the airlines is making them repay the cancelled tickets instead of re-booking later down the road. That is a stupid decision.

[mixturerich]

people will want to travel as soon as possible after being caged up in their homes for the last few weeks.

Yeah, with all the money they’ve saved while on EI, right? I’m sure they’ll be in great financial shape for a vacation.

The staggering, growing EI application numbers are all you need to know to understand just how serious an economic situation this all is.

People might want to travel but they’ll have to save aaall over again.

[2R]

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/202 ... finds.html

Some good news.
Help is on the way

[Rockie]

People might want to travel but they’ll have to save aaall over again.

And they will. It'll take a while but the world will get back to normal, hopefully with improvements. Fiscal responsibility and discipline would be nice for, you know...the next time. A renewed appreciation for global cooperation. A worldwide rejection of abject incompetence and corruption. A lasting conviction that we are not invincible and need to take care of our health and environment.

There will of course be depressing exceptions and outliers - looking at you again America, I dare you to change.

Worldwide catastrophes often beget years long periods of uncharacteristic human intelligence, cooperation and responsibility. I'm hoping this will do the same.

[photofly]

A renewed appreciation for global cooperation.

More likely, a renewed appreciation for local supply chains vs. global ones - particularly in medical supplies.

[Heliian]

Once the pandemic has passed, the economies of the world will regain strength again.

In fact, there will be a massive surge trying to get back to normalcy.

What? Literally every economist out there is saying the complete opposite of you. A long and slow recovery. What suddenly makes you an expert on this?

Since none of us can see the future, I'm hedging my bets on a big scramble to get back to normal life.

One economist pegged it at 3 years, is that long?

[Trematode]

More likely, a renewed appreciation for local supply chains vs. global ones - particularly in medical supplies.

Can already see politicians using our current situation to stoke the fires of isolationist and protectionist tendencies.

A more distributed supply chain obviously makes us more resilient to the kinds of problems we're currently facing (ie. all of one product being manufactured in one country; a single point of failure), but then I also worry about how nations may start behaving even more poorly towards one another when they no longer have shared common economic interests or relationships.

One shudders to think that in a very real foreseeable way, this virus may end up steering the course of future history towards war, or generalized global unrest. How insignificant we all are as individuals when something so small without even the benefit of conscious thought has the power to affect the entire human race in such profound ways. I can't even convince my old man to stay off Facebook.