No pilot recalls until Spring 2023???

[redbusdriver]

You are experiencing your career in a very sad way. I hope that you are able to find happiness in your life and career soon.

Fuçk off wanker.

I'm having a great time in my life. I'm winning at life in my opinion, and I like winning, but ACPA isn't winning, is blindingly obvious that they suck balls at their mandate.

Management aren't our friends, you're fucking naive if they think they are there for you, they will turn you out to McWages and cleaning the shitter if you let them. That's their job, they don't give a shit about the profession, only the bottom line.

Again, I hope that you are able to find happiness in your life and career soon. You aggressive replies are an indication of agitation, displeasure, and general unhappiness. A simple comment wishing you well should not have that effect on you.

I am sad that you don't believe that a professional and courteous relationship between you and your employer is a possibility. That might be a reflection on you, but it can also be a reflection on the company. I would like you to know that not all companies are run by cold blooded penny pinching accountants.

he's in denial imjustlurking. don't agree with his views an he becomes a toxic pos, there's no having a different view. let him throw his tempertantrum. oh and quoting charlie sheen doesn't make you a winner altiplano, but it's cool if you like the nose powder, just be careful.

[altiplano]

Please - save me the passive aggressive self righteous drivel.

You feel sorry for me and imply that I don't have a good life when you don't know a thing about me. But then you are just wishing me well while telling me to go back to wanking to 30 year old Mariah Carey pictures. That gets a GFYS from me... you sign up on this site a few months ago and post non-stop bullshit about things you know nothing of.

I absolutely have a professional and courteous relationship with my employer. And I'm a professional at work. That doesn't mean that I have to be naive to corporate motives. That doesn't mean I can't do what it takes and push for better and advocate for myself and colleagues including wankers like you two who apparently just showed up here...

"No having a different view." redbusdriver? Like what, giving away must of a 50 year hard fought contract in the space of a decade? You just support ACPA concessions and AC management even when the fear mongering or direction is proved wrong in hindsight. Even when the unintended consequences roll down hill to us.

And what does Charlie Sheen have to do with anything? And nose powder? You have no argument to make. You just attack with drivel.

I feel sorry for you guys. Compliant little sheep. Each one of you so special. You're naive and blind. Both apparently furloughs, so you worked here for what? A year give it take? You certainly must know how it is... You're how old? College to jazz to AC? Wake up little darlings.

[Dashdriver88]

That is the official company forecast directly from the VP or Flight Ops as of this week.

He hopes they can recall earlier, but they are not forecasting 75% of 2019 levels until spring 2023 and that’s the trigger for recall.

We are currently 1100 pilots over staffed.

I highly doubt that’s the case now.

Looks like that quote is 6 months old...

That said, they are short and management are liars every day when it comes to giving you the scoop and inside info. Special roadshow or casual visit in the sim.

They say things like that because it's their job to keep labour unsettled, it plays to their advantage to drop rumours like that.

What a screw up this training mess is... it's of their own making and they won't admit it, but still they'll look to us to fix it.

Thanks for the update. What’s your take on hiring off the street?

[Sharklasers]

Tell me when CBC and CNN stop jacking off to Covid deaths and I’ll tell you when AC starts hiring again.

[Dashdriver88]

Tell me when CBC and CNN stop jacking off to Covid deaths and I’ll tell you when AC starts hiring again.

Gotcha.

[737Maximilian]

It sounds like the government is on the verge of reimposing further travel restrictions. What's the over/under this will affect recalls and the everyone back by June plan?

[scabbydoo]

It sounds like the government is on the verge of reimposing further travel restrictions. What's the over/under this will affect recalls and the everyone back by June plan?

They've already been tripping over their own dicks by dragging their feet with the recall process and caught with their pants down. Imagine how stupid they'd have to be to ignore the lessons of the past year.

[schnitzel2k3]

It sounds like the government is on the verge of reimposing further travel restrictions. What's the over/under this will affect recalls and the everyone back by June plan?

They've already been tripping over their own dicks by dragging their feet with the recall process and caught with their pants down. Imagine how stupid they'd have to be to ignore the lessons of the past year.

They're pretty stupid...considering they still think they have any ability to control variants via minor border restrictions.

Now they are gaslighting the population with the line 'double vaxed or boostered individuals will not be protected from Omicron' - are you f*cking serious with this?

[Lol_xD]

If people don’t band together and let it be known that enough is enough, things will only get worse. 2 years have gone by, no rapid tests, no increased hospital capacity, just more debt, mental health issues, struggling businesses and struggling families. Shaming people for travelling and for not getting vaccinated, meanwhile now even the vaccinated are “no longer safe”. This is a gong show and the government overreach is doing more damage than good. Go live your life, and if you are scared take precautions. Stay home, order uber eats, but don’t stop me from living my life.

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[ikarus]

We beat to death this issue under Vax mandate few topics below... But unfortunately people were to blind to see where are we all headed. And now more and more people who did their due diligence and got 2 shots are starting to ask themselves - when does this stop!?

As long as we keep complying - it won't stop. Almost 2 years into this circus and we are getting more restrictions while more and more people are immunized. But the goal posts keep moving, so soon 2 plus booster will become a non vaccinated, and you will be labeled as anti vaxer. Just ask Israel....

[Fidget]

So you’re thinking by standing up and saying enough is enough that COVID and the variants will magically go away?? Holy @#$!! Why didn’t we think of this sooner! So, the concept is not get a booster then get omicron or delta and that will show them who is the boss? I get it. We also do get to die. Win win. Fucking hell.

[altiplano]

Mass psychosis.

It's overblown and it's been misrepresented, we've all been herded toward a single door.

Stop participating in the psychosis.

[Counterpoint]

Which side are you referring to?

[C-GGGQ]

So you’re thinking by standing up and saying enough is enough that COVID and the variants will magically go away?? Holy @#$!! Why didn’t we think of this sooner! So, the concept is not get a booster then get omicron or delta and that will show them who is the boss? I get it. We also do get to die. Win win. Fucking hell.

No he’s saying Omicron is as bad as the common cold. In almost every other country has just gone back to their normal life. Only Canada and Australia, new zealand, have people into a panic over this

[ToolShed]

Back to the topic.

Sooo, is everyone recalled now at AC?

[scabbydoo]

Back to the topic.

Sooo, is everyone recalled now at AC?

Not even close. Only 279 out of 600, and only 100 have training dates right now. Industry-wide, we're the first ones furloughed and last to be recalled.

[Lol_xD]

So you’re thinking by standing up and saying enough is enough that COVID and the variants will magically go away?? Holy @#$!! Why didn’t we think of this sooner! So, the concept is not get a booster then get omicron or delta and that will show them who is the boss? I get it. We also do get to die. Win win. Fucking hell.

Are you scared of covid? Are you scared of variants? Good you have a choice… go home, close the door and lock yourself inside where you will be safe (: food and essentials can be delivered right to your door step and you can emerge once every 3-6 months for your booster. You can live 100% certain you are isolated from most of the world, because you feel as if the risk is to high. Whats that? You have a job to get to? Guess what we have jobs we want to get back to to but can’t because people like you are freaking out. You want to see family? Too bad, you’re afraid of the world outside of your 4 walls, so you should stay home and stay safe, Never-mind grandma who just had a heart attack, she can die alone with no-one by her side. It’s not other peoples responsibility to put their life on hold because you are afraid of covid and the variants. It’s not our burden to bear, experiencing a family member dying alone in the hospital because we are refused entry. 2 fucking years… please enlighten me as to the progress that has been made to improve our health care system in order to help our people get through this. News flash… zero, nothing, nada. The government does not give a @#$! about you, your doctor doesn’t give a @#$! about you, I don’t give a @#$! about you, pfizer/moderna/the others doesn’t give a @#$! about you. Get your head out of your ass trying to justify this tyranny to keep people safe. You want to be safe? You’ve had 2 years to make a plan and find a way to be safe. Myself, and what seems to be most of this country is willing to live with the risks that are a part of daily life, Covid is just a new thing thats is on that list. Stop listening to the hysteria and start questioning the media, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel. Check this out: https://www.uhn.ca/covid19# scroll down for real time covid hospitalization updates. This encompasses 5 major health institutions in Toronto. As of December 16th: 6 total covid cases, 3 in ICU. Can’t make this shit up, this is publicly available information.

Dec 16th data

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“Oh how overwhelmed the system must be”. The only overwhelming thing is the gross mishandling of this crisis by a government that gives zero shits about the long term well being of it’s people.

“Do as we say and don’t ever dare question” - should be the new slogan for this country.

[ikarus]

6 and 3 in ICU!!!?? Thank you for the link...

Canadians are screwed if they let their goverment handle them in the forseable future like they did for the past 20 months. This is not about virus anymore people, turn of the fear porn tv.

[CPT.HarshColdReality]

I am ready to hit the streets should any new restrictions come thru. Sick and tired. Fed up and exhausted of the BS. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I have been compliant so far. I don't want boosters every 3 months nor do I want ANY restrictions. FIX THE FUCKING HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

[vrefplus5]

So, back to recalls. When will the results of the last bid be available?

[bob99]

Second round of recalls came out tonight. Around 180 deferrals as 179 spots dropped down to pilots in the 360s.

[Torontomaplelaughs]

Is there not a rush to get back to the NHL???

[bob99]

Not really, no. Many of those that bypassed are holding out for an RP spot. There's also quite a few that have bonds at other companies.

[QKZXKV]

Not really, no. Many of those that bypassed are holding out for an RP spot. There's also quite a few that have bonds at other companies.

Yes makes sense, I was wondering that today!

[imjustlurking]

6 and 3 in ICU!!!?? Thank you for the link...

Canadians are screwed if they let their goverment handle them in the forseable future like they did for the past 20 months. This is not about virus anymore people, turn of the fear porn tv.

UHN is not the entire health network.

You can see that in Ontario, there are 238 people in ICU testing positive for COVID. Of those 238, less than 37% are fully vaccinated.
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data

Get vaccinated. Reduce your contact during the waves. Tell your government to stop enacting stupid restrictions that aren't reducing the spread of COVID.