Incorrectly logging instrument time

[ruffdeezy]

That is wrong

The definition still is -

c) Instrument flight time is any flight time in an aircraft
while piloting the aircraft by sole reference to the flight
instruments. This flight time can be accumulated while
operating under instrument flight rules (IFR) in instrument
meteorological conditions (IMC), or in visual meteorological
conditions (VMC) during flight training by means which
limit a pilot’s ability to see outside the cockpit environment
such as while under a hood or wearing limited vision goggles.

[digits_]

That is wrong

The definition still is -

c) Instrument flight time is any flight time in an aircraft
while piloting the aircraft by sole reference to the flight
instruments. This flight time can be accumulated while
operating under instrument flight rules (IFR) in instrument
meteorological conditions (IMC), or in visual meteorological
conditions (VMC) during flight training by means which
limit a pilot’s ability to see outside the cockpit environment
such as while under a hood or wearing limited vision goggles.

Read the posts you're replying to. That's not the definition. That's an example from the AIM. The legal CAR definition is different.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Also, I’m not really understanding why people are so amped about logging instrument time. You need 75 for your ATPL, get a job at any 703/704 and you’ll get that with 3 months….max. Once you are in excess of this, there’s literally ZERO reason why you should care anymore.

I stopped logging IMC time 15 years ago. No one had asked me how much cloud time I have… ever. Including transport

[digits_]

Also, I’m not really understanding why people are so amped about logging instrument time. You need 75 for your ATPL, get a job at any 703/704 and you’ll get that with 3 months….max. Once you are in excess of this, there’s literally ZERO reason why you should care anymore.

I stopped logging IMC time 15 years ago. No one had asked me how much cloud time I have… ever. Including transport

Wrong. It affects IFR currency for those not flying commercially.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Also, I’m not really understanding why people are so amped about logging instrument time. You need 75 for your ATPL, get a job at any 703/704 and you’ll get that with 3 months….max. Once you are in excess of this, there’s literally ZERO reason why you should care anymore.

I stopped logging IMC time 15 years ago. No one had asked me how much cloud time I have… ever. Including transport

Wrong. It affects IFR currency for those not flying commercially.

Fair point. But arguably… filing any IFR flight plan makes you look at instruments from take off to landing. SID has you turning to a specific heading, STARs have you dealing with restrictions. You’re not looking outside for these things.

[PropDog]

Oh yeah? Can you explain how you shoot an ILS VFR?

Cancelling and doing the visual is routine in GA in VMC.

My point is doing it wrong overstates experience IMO

At most major airports approach isn't going to let you cancel and go visual. So answer the question, if you shoot an ILS in VMC conditions is that not instrument time?

No, they’re going to point out the airport and make you call it so they can clear you for the visual and save themselves the trouble of IFR separation.

[‘Bob’]

Also, I’m not really understanding why people are so amped about logging instrument time. You need 75 for your ATPL, get a job at any 703/704 and you’ll get that with 3 months….max. Once you are in excess of this, there’s literally ZERO reason why you should care anymore.

I stopped logging IMC time 15 years ago. No one had asked me how much cloud time I have… ever. Including transport

Wrong. It affects IFR currency for those not flying commercially.

Fair point. But arguably… filing any IFR flight plan makes you look at instruments from take off to landing. SID has you turning to a specific heading, STARs have you dealing with restrictions. You’re not looking outside for these things.

A student pilot flying in controlled airspace is going to be given headings and altitude restrictions.. is he or she to log this as instrument time?

[Me262]

I only log IFR when in cloud. I didn't even care. There were other requirements that took a lot longer than just 75hr IFR time.