Emirates road show July 14-20 … an alternative to AC?

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Re: Emirates road show July 14-20 … an alternative to AC?

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Tbayer2021 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:03 pm
Tbayer2021 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:03 pm
digits_ wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:33 pm

Or only of those who made more money than you? ;)
Bingo!
Pound sand, you don’t know me but you sure have a lot to say, I had a family member who lived in the US for 25 years, had a green card and only came “home” when private insurance cost was too much, hasn’t worked a day since coming home and I said the same thing to them, so shove your Bingo! you know where
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Re: Emirates road show July 14-20 … an alternative to AC?

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cdnavater wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:09 pm
digits_ wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:33 pm
cdnavater wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:06 pm

Smoker, really! First, I assume if they can afford to smoke they are paying taxes, second the pack of cigarettes at 17.00 is 50-70% tax, we are talking about people who leave the country and stop contributing, not even remotely the same thing!
Next, a non resident Canadian returning home with 10 million(eg) in the bank or a mix of investments etc, will not pay taxes on that money, they will only pay taxes on anything they gain after the first day back, so still not a contribution to the Canadian system, yet fully entitled to everything all those who stayed behind and contributed are.
They will pay taxes on everything they buy. If they were gone for 15 years, they didn't contribute but they also didn't use the system. They also lost a significant part of the (small) Canadian Pension Plan.

Someone bringing in 10 million into Canada at retirement will have more money flowing into Canada than a low wage employee who spent his whole life working in Canada and is drawing a pension. Both have access to the same level of healthcare.

There's always people better off than you, and there are always some that are worse off than you. A knee jerk reaction to punish one specific group seems unproductive to me.

What about someone who spent 15 years in Africa building houses for a non profit and has saved up just enough to retire in Canada? Do you want to take his healthcare away as well if he returns? Or only of those who made more money than you? ;)
No, just the ones who make more than me!
Seriously though, the taxes in this country are through the roof, my property tax this year is over 7000 for a rural property that has no services, I have a well, septic and pay for garbage pick up. 12% on everything thing I buy, carbon tax and GSFUCKNT on the carbon tax, yep a tax on a fukn tax, hidden taxes and then there is the federal and provincial income tax, all this to support a broken healthcare system which provides healthcare to people who have not been or never have contributed to that system. It’s broken, it needs fixing!
Or you could just leave this socialist paradise and really get ahead but you’d rather have the crab in the bucket mentality that is a signature trait of this country.
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Blueontop wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:03 am
cdnavater wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:09 pm
digits_ wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:33 pm

They will pay taxes on everything they buy. If they were gone for 15 years, they didn't contribute but they also didn't use the system. They also lost a significant part of the (small) Canadian Pension Plan.

Someone bringing in 10 million into Canada at retirement will have more money flowing into Canada than a low wage employee who spent his whole life working in Canada and is drawing a pension. Both have access to the same level of healthcare.

There's always people better off than you, and there are always some that are worse off than you. A knee jerk reaction to punish one specific group seems unproductive to me.

What about someone who spent 15 years in Africa building houses for a non profit and has saved up just enough to retire in Canada? Do you want to take his healthcare away as well if he returns? Or only of those who made more money than you? ;)
No, just the ones who make more than me!
Seriously though, the taxes in this country are through the roof, my property tax this year is over 7000 for a rural property that has no services, I have a well, septic and pay for garbage pick up. 12% on everything thing I buy, carbon tax and GSFUCKNT on the carbon tax, yep a tax on a fukn tax, hidden taxes and then there is the federal and provincial income tax, all this to support a broken healthcare system which provides healthcare to people who have not been or never have contributed to that system. It’s broken, it needs fixing!
Or you could just leave this socialist paradise and really get ahead but you’d rather have the crab in the bucket mentality that is a signature trait of this country.
Part of being in a society is contributing, if you are not a contributing member of that society, you should not benefit from those who did, leave, I don’t care but the benefits of returning should be commensurate with how long you were no longer contributing!
You of course believe you should have your cake and eat it too!
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Re: Emirates road show July 14-20 … an alternative to AC?

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The big problem Canada has is it's a big country with a small (for the size of the country) population. There's a lot of infrastructure to maintain with a small population to pay for it, so taxes are high.

There is a solution to this... become part of the US ;)

Every province could still set its own rules and laws like the states do in the US.
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Launchpad1 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:06 am The big problem Canada has is it's a big country with a small (for the size of the country) population. There's a lot of infrastructure to maintain with a small population to pay for it, so taxes are high.

There is a solution to this... become part of the US ;)

Every province could still set its own rules and laws like the states do in the US.
Really makes me wonder what your definition of 'solution' is :wink:
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Re: Emirates road show July 14-20 … an alternative to AC?

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cdnavater wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:55 am
Blueontop wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:03 am
cdnavater wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:09 pm
No, just the ones who make more than me!
Seriously though, the taxes in this country are through the roof, my property tax this year is over 7000 for a rural property that has no services, I have a well, septic and pay for garbage pick up. 12% on everything thing I buy, carbon tax and GSFUCKNT on the carbon tax, yep a tax on a fukn tax, hidden taxes and then there is the federal and provincial income tax, all this to support a broken healthcare system which provides healthcare to people who have not been or never have contributed to that system. It’s broken, it needs fixing!
Or you could just leave this socialist paradise and really get ahead but you’d rather have the crab in the bucket mentality that is a signature trait of this country.
Part of being in a society is contributing, if you are not a contributing member of that society, you should not benefit from those who did, leave, I don’t care but the benefits of returning should be commensurate with how long you were no longer contributing!
You of course believe you should have your cake and eat it too!
If you leave Canada for 10 years, you’re not really using Canada’s services during that time, so upon return to Canada, when you pay taxes again, why would you not receive services?
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Re: Emirates road show July 14-20 … an alternative to AC?

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I went to the roadshow,

It felt like I was being sold a timeshare. They seem like they want you to have Emirates injected in your blood, everything in your life should revolve around them… your doctors, your kids school, your living space, your lifestyle, the pay is nice however it seems like you work to death, the conditions in the US are far far better imo, If AC can mirror a United/Delta contract no one should even think about going
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Re: Emirates road show July 14-20 … an alternative to AC?

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cdnavater wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:55 am
Blueontop wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:03 am
cdnavater wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:09 pm
No, just the ones who make more than me!
Seriously though, the taxes in this country are through the roof, my property tax this year is over 7000 for a rural property that has no services, I have a well, septic and pay for garbage pick up. 12% on everything thing I buy, carbon tax and GSFUCKNT on the carbon tax, yep a tax on a fukn tax, hidden taxes and then there is the federal and provincial income tax, all this to support a broken healthcare system which provides healthcare to people who have not been or never have contributed to that system. It’s broken, it needs fixing!
Or you could just leave this socialist paradise and really get ahead but you’d rather have the crab in the bucket mentality that is a signature trait of this country.
Part of being in a society is contributing, if you are not a contributing member of that society, you should not benefit from those who did, leave, I don’t care but the benefits of returning should be commensurate with how long you were no longer contributing!
You of course believe you should have your cake and eat it too!
Ahuh..
look either Canada gets its act together and changes direction, becomes a place people want to stay or immigrate because they can not just survive here but thrive then f@#$ it! I, for one, will milk this system as vigorously as it has milked me for decades. If that means leaving for a few years to finally get my piece of the pie and come back here to cushy semi-retirement gig (which I would again be back on the government milk machine, there ya happy?) then so be it..
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Re: Emirates road show July 14-20 … an alternative to AC?

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vanislepilot wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:51 pm I went to the roadshow,

It felt like I was being sold a timeshare. They seem like they want you to have Emirates injected in your blood, everything in your life should revolve around them… your doctors, your kids school, your living space, your lifestyle, the pay is nice however it seems like you work to death, the conditions in the US are far far better imo, If AC can mirror a United/Delta contract no one should even think about going
Which one did you go to?
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