Bank Angle In The Circuit

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Re: Bank Angle In The Circuit

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Colonel Sanders wrote:back on topic ....
If you have to use more then 30 degrees of bank,
particularly on the base to final turn, you have misjudged
the turn
For sure. What I don't like is when someone is in that
situation, and rather than using bank to turn the aircraft,
they stomp on the inside rudder to haul the nose around.

This makes me jibber like a chimpanzee with Tourette's
Syndrome as I try to explain why that is a very bad thing
to do.

Instead, what I suggest to people is that they turn the
aircraft with bank instead of yaw. A slight momentary
increase in the bank - remember, the G is light in the
descending turn, and thus the stall speed is reduced
below the +1G Vs - and the ball falls back to the center,
and the aircraft turns in a co-ordinated fashion.

Much less dangerous than a flat turn with rudder.
Personally in that situation I teach that rather then over bank pass through final and then keep the bank on and intercept the final approach path from the other side. It rubs their nose in their poor planning and therefore addresses the root cause of the problem, poor judgement of the flight path of the aircraft. However I fully support your point about skidding turns which obviously should be avoided at any bank angle. Here some times you need to educate the students bum. A good way to do this is in the practice area, cover up the turn coordinator and demo skidding vs slipping turns. Then fly a bunch and get the student to tell you which one it is. Start with gross examples and then progressively make them more subtle.
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Re: Bank Angle In The Circuit

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I think I am going to make up some t-shirts that say

STEP ON THE BALL
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Re: Bank Angle In The Circuit

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Colonel Sanders wrote:I think I am going to make up some t-shirts that say

STEP ON THE BALL
You better wear a cup with that shirt.....
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