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Lots of news. Like Covid, this protest is about to end, imminently.
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rookiepilot wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:10 am Lots of news. Like Covid, this protest is about to end, imminently.
I think you are right.

Ford is currently doing his speech thinking “how do I tell everyone we can end all Covid restrictions without telling them we actually never needed Covid restrictions”

Looks clear to me that dialdriver and his friend are the advisors to ford on masking. They say we still need masks. When asked when can masking end both ford and Moore gave a no answer. “We will just keep following science and data”. Idiots!
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AnonPilot wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:26 pm
tsgarp wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:43 am
AnonPilot wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:35 am

You’re saying this ironically right?
Proof positive that our education system and media have been infiltrated and converted to an indoctrination system.
Read your second paragraph and explain how that isn’t indistinguishable from anything Castro or Che would have said during Cuba’s communist revolution.
Castro and Che were, respectively, a lawyer and a doctor. That, combined with their communist ideology, means they were not opposed to fringe academics holding sway. They blamed social ills on the greed of businessmen. In other words, the stuff they said had no resemblance to what I wrote.

What I wrote, however, perfectly reflects the way Castro and Che (both homophobic murders) operated. Same applies to Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot and all the self proclaimed socialists and founders of CRT, who between them, are responsible for the plurality of human misery during the 20th century.
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tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:32 am Same applies to Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot and all the self proclaimed socialists and founders of CRT, who between them, are responsible for the plurality of human misery during the 20th century.
Not sure how the "founders of CRT" are in the same league as Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.

For those not in the know, CRT is Critical Race Theory. The study of history through non-caucasian points of view. Specifically the intersection of race and law.
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‘Bob’ wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:48 am But you somehow “survived” and found the real “truth”.

Hahahahahahaha!!! :lol:
Nope. I went through the education (up to the undergrad level) back when it was a bit more balanced, or perhaps a bit more loaded towards the other side. I then worked as a teacher for ten years and watch both academia and the teachers' unions adopt increasingly more marxist ideas and become less and less tolerant of dissent and less and less diverse in thought. These observations have only been reinforced by my recent return to school to pursue a graduate degree. If anything, the current education system resembles a theocracy where the pontiffs have, as a primary goal, the destruction of Western culture via sabotage of morale.
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Bingo Fuel wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:45 am
tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:32 am Same applies to Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot and all the self proclaimed socialists and founders of CRT, who between them, are responsible for the plurality of human misery during the 20th century.
Not sure how the "founders of CRT" are in the same league as Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.

For those not in the know, CRT is Critical Race Theory. The study of history through non-caucasian points of view. Specifically the intersection of race and law.
Hitler was the founder of CRT. He blamed all the ills of his society on the one ethnic group that happened to have a disproportionate number of members who were highly successful. At it's core, modern CRT is no different.
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tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:52 am The current education system resembles a theocracy where the pontiffs have, as a primary goal, the destruction of Western culture via sabotage of morale.
Because adherents of "Western culture" should never feel bad about the misdeeds of the past, and need to be coddled.

I think "Western culture" is stronger than that, and can deal with the consequences of its actions.
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FOD wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:57 am
Bingo Fuel wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:45 am
tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:32 am Same applies to Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot and all the self proclaimed socialists and founders of CRT, who between them, are responsible for the plurality of human misery during the 20th century.
Not sure how the "founders of CRT" are in the same league as Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.

For those not in the know, CRT is Critical Race Theory. The study of history through non-caucasian points of view. Specifically the intersection of race and law.
This post should be deleted as misinformation.
Educate me. What about my post is false?

Is this forum only an echo chamber for the opinions heard on Fox?
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tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:55 am
Bingo Fuel wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:45 am
tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:32 am Same applies to Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot and all the self proclaimed socialists and founders of CRT, who between them, are responsible for the plurality of human misery during the 20th century.
Not sure how the "founders of CRT" are in the same league as Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.

For those not in the know, CRT is Critical Race Theory. The study of history through non-caucasian points of view. Specifically the intersection of race and law.
Hitler was the founder of CRT. He blamed all the ills of his society on the one ethnic group that happened to have a disproportionate number of members who were highly successful.

For those that haven't read CRT, it invariably arrives at the conclusion that white people, as a race in general, are to blame for all of the worlds woes. It differs little from Nazi doctrine and is being used for the same purpose; to stoke racial division and build a power base that exploits humanities innate racist tendencies.
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Bingo Fuel wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:00 am
tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:52 am The current education system resembles a theocracy where the pontiffs have, as a primary goal, the destruction of Western culture via sabotage of morale.
Because adherents of "Western culture" should never feel bad about the misdeeds of the past, and need to be coddled.

I think "Western culture" is stronger than that, and can deal with the consequences of its actions.
The sad thing is that those who criticize misdeeds of the past make themselves just as awful by creating the same misdeeds in the present.
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FOD wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:57 am
Bingo Fuel wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:45 am
tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:32 am Same applies to Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot and all the self proclaimed socialists and founders of CRT, who between them, are responsible for the plurality of human misery during the 20th century.
Not sure how the "founders of CRT" are in the same league as Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot.

For those not in the know, CRT is Critical Race Theory. The study of history through non-caucasian points of view. Specifically the intersection of race and law.
This post should be deleted as misinformation.
I agree that it is misinformation, but not that it should be deleted. Cancelling an opinion is what the woke mob does and is not healthy for a free society. The better thing to do is to debunk misinformation like this. It's a more difficult path, but it ultimately leads to a stronger society which is immunized against sophistry.
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Only because I refuse to condemn CRT as being comparable to Nazi Germany?

I'm not even advocating for it. I'm just refusing to put it in the same ballpark as the Holocaust.
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pelmet wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:04 am
Bingo Fuel wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:00 am
tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:52 am The current education system resembles a theocracy where the pontiffs have, as a primary goal, the destruction of Western culture via sabotage of morale.
Because adherents of "Western culture" should never feel bad about the misdeeds of the past, and need to be coddled.

I think "Western culture" is stronger than that, and can deal with the consequences of its actions.
The sad thing is that those who criticize misdeeds of the past make themselves just as awful by creating the same misdeeds in the present.
Exactly.

We should, by all means, analyze what came before us. However, the results of that analysis must be subject to criticism, and this is what the woke mob is preventing and that is why they find themselves increasingly facing charges of hypocrisy.
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rookiepilot wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:10 am Lots of news. Like Covid, this protest is about to end, imminently.
Singh on TV. This guy makes Trudeau look good. The bloodthirsty comments are despicable. Talk about a radical fundamentalist!

Both sides are quietly negotiating peace. This is driving Singh (and the bloodthirsty media, both calling for war on the protesters) absolutely nuts.

Trudeau is actually doing something smart here. This is COMMUNICATION. Now he can order in tow trucks -- but combined with Ontario signalling the government is actually listening. Lowering the temperature. It's an olive branch without the Fed's losing face. Fine with me.

24-48 hrs, me thinks this starts to defuse quickly.
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Bingo Fuel wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:11 am Only because I refuse to condemn CRT as being comparable to Nazi Germany?

I'm not even advocating for it. I'm just refusing to put it in the same ballpark as the Holocaust.
Why? CRT and National Socialist ideology operate on the same basic principle and are being used by the same type of people to build a political power base. The pattern is quite clear when one looks with an open mind.
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tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:14 am
pelmet wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:04 am
Bingo Fuel wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:00 am

Because adherents of "Western culture" should never feel bad about the misdeeds of the past, and need to be coddled.

I think "Western culture" is stronger than that, and can deal with the consequences of its actions.
The sad thing is that those who criticize misdeeds of the past make themselves just as awful by creating the same misdeeds in the present.
Exactly.

We should, by all means, analyze what came before us. However, the results of that analysis must be subject to criticism, and this is what the woke mob is preventing and that is why they find themselves increasingly facing charges of hypocrisy.
So "Western culture" is not subject to criticism from non-caucasian points of view?

The marketplace of ideas should be open to all. That means CRT should also be criticized, but it should not be abolished. It is just as viable as any other point of view. It should not replace history that favors "Western culture", bit it should supplement it to provide a more fulsome perspective.

Hyperbolic comparisons only stifles debate. One shouldn't be so quick to compare things to 1930s Germany.
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Interesting opinion piece from the WSJ...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-canad ... 9?mod=e2tw
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"Trudeau expected to invoke Emergencies Act to aid convoy blockade response: sources"

Worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTsQQ22Uwc

And now...oh the ironies.

But it was about the only thing I thought his father did that was right(keeping in mind that I missed most of that era politically and only followed the last few years in a less thorough manner).

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/tr ... d=msedgntp
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pelmet wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:27 am "Trudeau expected to invoke Emergencies Act to aid convoy blockade response: sources"

Worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTsQQ22Uwc

And now...oh the ironies.

But it was about the only thing I thought his father did that was right(keeping in mind that I missed most of that era politically and only followed the last few years in a less thorough manner).

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/tr ... d=msedgntp
Interesting. PET invoking the WMA due to the terrorist activities of the FLQ, and justin invoking it (by another name) because of parked vehicles, BBQs, and bouncy castles. :lol:

Justin will never measure up to his fathers legacy, no matter how much he tries.
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tsgarp wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:55 am
Hitler was the founder of CRT. He blamed all the ills of his society on the one ethnic group that happened to have a disproportionate number of members who were highly successful.
I know you didn’t mean it as such but I will very very gently suggest you’re perpetuating an anti-Semitic trope, that Jews in the early 20th century were disproportionately “more successful” than anyone else.

It certainly doesn’t explain the genocide of Roma and Sinti people, either.
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DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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Impact wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:52 am
pelmet wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:27 am "Trudeau expected to invoke Emergencies Act to aid convoy blockade response: sources"

Worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTsQQ22Uwc

And now...oh the ironies.

But it was about the only thing I thought his father did that was right(keeping in mind that I missed most of that era politically and only followed the last few years in a less thorough manner).

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/tr ... d=msedgntp
Interesting. PET invoking the WMA due to the terrorist activities of the FLQ, and justin invoking it (by another name) because of parked vehicles, BBQs, and bouncy castles. :lol:

Justin will never measure up to his fathers legacy, no matter how much he tries.

He’s invoking “it”… a piece of conservative legislation signed into law in 1988 that repealed the War Measures Act… only if the provincial leaders all agree.. in response to colluding, corrupt, or completely incompetent police forces who should have had this cleared weeks ago.
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rookiepilot wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:44 am Playing out right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yfIoHXOO9E
And there is money to be made, too........Trades -- Pelmet! --- on the War Measures announcement or whatever it is called ---- :shock:

Guess how.
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‘Bob’ wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:09 am
He’s invoking “it”… a piece of conservative legislation signed into law in 1988 that repealed the War Measures Act… only if the provincial leaders all agree.. in response to colluding, corrupt, or completely incompetent police forces who should have had this cleared weeks ago.
Well, well, well. Isn't this an interesting turn of events. The pro-mandate folks are now turning on the police? All because of a pack of stalwart average Canadians had the audacity to stand up to a petty tyrant?
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The only way for the PM to enact the Federal Emergencies Act, is if all Provincial/Territorial Premiers agree to its implementation and then it has to go to Parliament for approval of a majority of MPs. Those are two steep barriers to overcome, and it's done that way for a specific reason. No PM can simply wave their hand and implement such a sweeping act of federal powers, there are checks and balances built in for a reason.

Angus Reid polling just released their latest data on the "Freedom" Convoy. 72% of Canadians say it's gone too far and the "truckers" need to go home immediately.

Also, I see the pro-seditionists of this forum are rather silent about the RCMP arresting 11 people at/near Coutts whom had firearms, ammunition and body armour...
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