TC to suspend license over unpaid $55 fee

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TC to suspend license over unpaid $55 fee

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So I got the invoice, tried to pay online, had some tech issues, put it off and than TOTALLY forgot about it. Just got a letter stating that accounts in arrears greater than 120 days will be pursued for a suspension of pilot license until such time as the account is in good standing. Damn, they're getting desperate now eh?

Love getting charged fees for doing NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anybody actually have their licence suspended yet over non payment?
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Why can't Transport Canada just set up a decent online payment system? How hard could it be? Old ladies who crochet tea-cozies and sell them online can figure it out for christ sakes. It's this kind of Mickey-Mouse bullshit that makes me go nuts. I tried to pay online too. It's impossible. They don't actually want your money. They are the most obstructionist bureaucracy I have ever encountered. They can suspend my license if they like. No-one has ever asked to see it anyway. Assholes.
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Should we plan an avcanada-wide day of carpet bombing their phone payment office with payment calls to get the point across?
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I've been paying my fees online for years... takes 2 minutes (although the web site is rather dismal)

And before that, I've been paying my fees on time for over 2 decades, so I'm not particularly sympathetic for people who don't pay their fees and feel hard done by.....
(which I'm guessing will not be a popular opinion in this thread :) )

I guess I don't really see why people are surprised when a fee is due, not paid and surprise! there are actually consequences.
We pay all kinds of stupid government fees, presumably for the processing of the paperwork (and mailing out of the stickers, etc), why would TC be any different than say DMV - we pay registration on our vehicles and for our driver's licence - and heaven help you if you don't!
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I'm probably switching to an Indian commercial license so whateves.
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Why does this keep coming up? You pay a fee to license your car and yourself to drive it, and although bitching about it is a fun pastime we still do it. Your medical fee pays for your validation to continue earning a living for Christ's sake, not paying that out some misguided sense of protest is just crass stupidity in my mind. Forget TC's website (which I agree is a joke), do none of you remember how to write a cheque and stick it in an envelope?

What a bunch of kids...
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A what?
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Meatservo wrote:A what?
Meatservo wrote:A what?
A cheque. You know, those small things you write on to transfer money from your account to some other person or company.

Jeebus I must be getting old....
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I haven't got my AIP update for years... or the Aviation Safety Letter...

I thought that was what the $55 was paying for? That's what they said at the time.

F- Transport Canada. This is just another tax grab from a government department out of ideas... or rather one that never had an idea to begin with.
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"F- Transport Canada"

I can't wait to hear the end of this story.
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Meatservo wrote:Old ladies who crochet tea-cozies and sell them online can figure it out for christ sakes.
And you think the Transport Canada office workers are as smart as these old ladies? Give me a break :rolleyes:
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Rockie wrote:
Meatservo wrote:A what?
Meatservo wrote:A what?
A cheque. You know, those small things you write on to transfer money from your account to some other person or company.

Jeebus I must be getting old....
Me too. I gave up on the online system and just mail them a cheque when I get the bill. Frankly 5 minutes of my time every 6 months isn't enough to get worked up about.
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I can pay my taxes - my tax instalments - lets see -- oh yAa-- ALL MY BILLS through online banking -- I don't even have a cheque book -- very simple -- why can't they just do like other departments and let you pay via online banking -- so simple and easy in fact you could do post dated payments with a one time setup until you figured you didn't need to do any more medicals --
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Liquid Charlie wrote:I can pay my taxes - my tax instalments - lets see -- oh yAa-- ALL MY BILLS through online banking -- I don't even have a cheque book -- very simple -- why can't they just do like other departments and let you pay via online banking -- so simple and easy in fact you could do post dated payments with a one time setup until you figured you didn't need to do any more medicals --
Sure, they could do a lot of things better. But you don't strike me as the type to withhold paying your medical fee and jeopardizing your livelihood until they do....
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@#$! em!
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Seriously though Rocky.

I don't pay. I never have. I don't hand it over to thieves, I let them come work for it.

They send letter after letter and eventually take it off my tax return, the past few years I've owed though so they get nil... and the letters pile up. Sure. They'll get it eventually but I figure every year I put them off I'm ahead due inflation gains. ie. my $55 is worth less this year than it was last year... and it was mine the whole time.

People who just cough it up... what a bunch of sheep. It's unjust taxation... Keep falling in line and watch where it goes next.
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Can someone explain why ATC have no fee to process their medicals, but pilots do?

Why can't I pay a flat one time fee with the issue of a booklet instead of twice yearly?

Just what exactly are they doing with the $55 fee which is paid to the receiver general?

Does it really cost that much to process and file a medical? If it does cost that much, shouldn't the process be changed to make it more efficient?

Why do I need to make an appointment to visit TC office? Why am I made to feel like I'm somehow intruding on TC's important work when I have an issue I need to deal with them on?

Why do I get different points of view to an issue depending on which TC office I contact or even different inspectors within the same office?

Why is the only person who can answer a question always on vacation?

Is the person(s) doing the medical processing and filing not doing anything else for TC that they are receiving a paycheque for? If not, why am I subsidizing the federal government? Isn't that what my taxes are for?

Why is TC potentially threatening my livelihood over a completely arbitrary $55 fee?



Just asking. (seriously!)
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Rockie wrote:Why does this keep coming up? You pay a fee to license your car and yourself to drive it, and although bitching about it is a fun pastime we still do it. Your medical fee pays for your validation to continue earning a living for Christ's sake, not paying that out some misguided sense of protest is just crass stupidity in my mind. Forget TC's website (which I agree is a joke), do none of you remember how to write a cheque and stick it in an envelope?

What a bunch of kids...
I sent them a cheque. , that piece of paper that Rockie talks about , two month ago and they haven't cashed yet They are so overworked that they have no time to collect and send me a receit.
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duCapo wrote:@#$! em!
@#$! em?

Seriously? When did we stoop to this level. censoring bad words now? @#$! me.
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Big Pistons Forever wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Meatservo wrote:A what?
Meatservo wrote:A what?
A cheque. You know, those small things you write on to transfer money from your account to some other person or company.

Jeebus I must be getting old....
Frankly 5 minutes of my time every 6 months isn't enough to get worked up about.
Dude you seriously need to read your medical validity page of your ADB.
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Are they cashing these "cheque" things that you're dutifully consigning the the aether, Big Pistons Forever?

Canada Post is only slightly less worthless than Transport Canada. I get anxiety ever time I need to count on them to get anything right.
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I've been mailing them cheques since before personal computers were invented and never had a problem. I seriously have to question the judgement and prioritization skills of people who risk their livelihood over a yearly $55 licensing fee.
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User pay. Call it what you will, but is a tax. Instead of raising taxes the people in power decide to sell the idea that they would give us something for the fee. That went away but the fee continued.

As long as people keep paying these fees, the folks who we call government will increase them, initiate new ones, and all the while sell the idea od user pay.

It will not stop until literally everyone refuses, as they can go after one person at a time.

Garnishing income tax returns. Legally questionable, but until they cross the wrong person no one is going to challange it for $55....something they are counting on. Ethics and government are two words that never should be in the same sentence.

Kudos to all those who refuse to pay. Make it expensive and difficult to collect and they will raise the fee, and keep raising it as long as they can, but like cigarette taxes, in the end they will alienate everyone and trigger a backlash.
Pay it like good sheep and they will increase it.

They do not know when to stop. At least this kind of protest slows the increases down
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Can someone explain why ATC have no fee to process their medicals, but pilots do?
ATC medicals are subject to the same fees as pilot's medicals, as a matter of fact they are the same medicals...

Controllers employed by Nav Canada have their medical processing fees paid by Nav Canada and billed directly to Nav Canada, but they are paid same as yours.
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