Around 2 weeks to be lay off....

neiva · Post by **neiva** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:03 pm

After working hard as a single pilot IFR in a Ho, I'm in the verge of getting lay off.
What should I do... serious commnents please...living in BC and the winter season coming.

Options are:

1 Move to Ontario, find a factory job, till something better happens.

2 Move to Vancouver find a mill job, till something better happens.

3 Move to Calgary find a mine job, till something better happens.

After 10 years in the field, 3300 Hs TT I'm still looking for the job that can give me at least a 2 years position in the same town. Am I asking for too much ?

marktheone · Post by **marktheone** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:36 pm

Do you have any multi engine turbine time and can you live on a small amount of money in Vancouver??

Ralliart · Post by **Ralliart** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:43 pm

Hey,

As per what I mentioned to you during the FlashChat, hope it works out......I didn't qualify for the gig so might as well mention it to someone who could.

Cheers

neiva · Post by **neiva** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:54 pm

Thank you ralliart, I will contact them.

That's the way to go : one pilot helping each other...

Marktheone: I don't have any turbine time yet, but I'm looking to ...

Total Flight Time Hours: 3235Hr’s.
Multi-Engine: 2123Hs. PA 31-1118 Hr’s/ B-58, PA 34 - 905 Hr’s.
Single-Engine: 1112 Hr’s.
PIC: 3023 Hr’s
IFR: 1350 Hr’s.
Night: 645 Hr’s.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:49 pm

Jobhunter :

Looks good to me, you have a good mix of experience.

Don't compromize safety or your integrity and you'll do just fine.

I wish you all the best.

Cat

... · Post by **...** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:21 pm

Cat Driver wrote:
Don't compromize safety or your integrity and you'll do just fine.

What he said.

neiva · Post by **neiva** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:08 pm

Thank you for your replys .

I just had the letter right now. The CP came a few minutes ago and gave me the notice.

Well I believe now is official...

I knew before hand because a friend of mine told me that the investor in the company was pulling the plug...

Oh well another move... My wife is so "happy" ....maybe I will not survive tonight....

Phlyer · Post by **Phlyer** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:50 am

Never give up - that's right. To get the experience you've got, you've obviously made some sacrifices. Why not move to Calgary and get a flying job? If your ppc is still current you could go to Dynamic, for one. The cp is a great guy and will point you in the right direction if he doesn't have anything right now. Peace Air is an option too; Bar XH is looking (I'm told) as is North Cariboo. I would fly out if I was you; looks to be the busiest winter ever in Alberta. Pm me if you need more info; good luck.
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Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:22 am

This statement is a good example of how far TC has their heads up their collective as.es.

" If your ppc is still current you could go to Dynamic, "

The PPC requirements and its portability from one company to another is nothing short of stupid and a burden on both the pilot and the operators...

But of course TC will not change this because they are to arrogant and unacountable to the industry.

Cat

Brew · Post by **Brew** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:37 am

It helps a little to not release their training records although I can't imagine who would. We had someone leave us with a valid PPC and he was asked by his new employer to get his training records from us. If they are getting a person already PPC'ed the least they can do is put in some training time with them.

Phlyer · Post by **Phlyer** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:51 am

Wow - yet another hijack by Cat Driver on how TC sucks...

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:56 am

" If they are getting a person already PPC'ed the least they can do is put in some training time with them. "

Its all about money Brew.

To operate a business in Aviation today you have to spend so much time and money complying with bureaucratic B.S. that provides employment to someone totally unrelated to the business you are trying to run, the transferable PPC is a freebie.

Companies to survive will take advantage of any chance to save a dime...or they risk going under.

Still I find it strange that anyone in business would blindly accept a piece of paper called a PPC as proof that a pilot is competent and of the quality that you want to fly your airplanes.

Strange....

Cat

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:51 am

Cat Driver wrote:This statement is a good example of how far TC has their heads up their collective as.es.

" If your ppc is still current you could go to Dynamic, "

The PPC requirements and its portability from one company to another is nothing short of stupid and a burden on both the pilot and the operators...

But of course TC will not change this because they are to arrogant and unacountable to the industry.

Cat

I don't find it a burden

broompusher · Post by **broompusher** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:19 am

Cat Driver:

We all know that you & TC don't agree, but please stop taking over everythread & bitching about them. Why don't you just start another thread about all of TC's warcrimes, whoever wants to read about will, just please stop kicking your dead horse on every thread you come across.(IMHO)

LostinRotation · Post by **LostinRotation** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:33 am

Sorry to hear the bad news hunter. Best of luck with your wife and future prospects.

-=0=LIR=0=-

turbo-prop · Post by **turbo-prop** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:39 am

apply to missinippi air for the thompson base you have a shot at the king air with your time, lots of flying. add is in job ads this site.

stringbender · Post by **stringbender** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:28 pm

maybe take a canadian geography course,Calgary is an oil town not mining

neiva · Post by **neiva** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:32 pm

I meant oil field, sorry ...

neiva · Post by **neiva** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:34 pm

I been doing a serious thought, and I believe the final decision will be Alberta.
Anybody can give some info about the industry there ?

Is possible to get a job in a city like Calgary or Edmonton, or not a chance...

goates · Post by **goates** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:58 pm

The winter drilling season is starting up, so all of the oil companies will need things flown around. Some companies are also looking into newer technologies like aerial surveying using lidar, which needs pilots to work.

Can't help you with comapny names though or how the pilot situation is doing.

Brew · Post by **Brew** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:28 pm

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:12 pm

Thanks brew:

Most of the guys here mean well, its just that they really have never seen how disfunctional the industry has become as more and more regulations superceed regulations until no one understands them.

On top of over regulation we have never ending policies some of which were poorly thought out.

The portability of PPC's is an excellent example of a poorly thought out policy.

On one hand TC strives to put the responsibility on the operator, yet they dictate that an operator does not have the ability to do their own profficiency check on a pilot that they are about to turn over a very expensive aircraft to..

I personally look at a PPC as just another piece of paper that confirms that a pilot met the minimum standards on a given day.

I prefer to do my own proficiency checks before I will turn over an airplane to a pilot that I do not know.

Cat

neiva · Post by **neiva** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:16 pm

Thank you Cat Driver for your comments...I really agree with you, I myself never will let a pilot fly my plane before do a couple of flights, line indoctrination etc.
But, what I really whant is your opinion (and the others) to where I should go for next step.

I'd like to thank all your inputs in this matter.

I know Alberta looks promise, but a couple of guys told me that is kind of hard to get a job if they don't know you.

I been contacted from a couple of company from Ontario, but right now is not possible (for economics reazons) to do a move to Ontario.

Anyway, I'd like to thanks all of you for the help and support.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:10 am

Jobhunter,

Have you tried Thunder? The FO pay sucks, but the upgrade will prbably be reasonably short. And you can live in a decent town (unless you get stuck in XL)

Better idea: sell your PPC to that clown that wants to buy a PPC. He can get a deal: used PPC for half price. Maybe he can even get 500 hrs with it.

neiva · Post by **neiva** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:43 am

Bede:
That's really funny , and make me think...can I sell it ?...just kidding.

About Thunder I just received the news that position has been filled...

Thank you anyway