Bird in the hand...

In the past that session is a competitive ground school for ramp staff. Where you take your TDG ground handling etc. At the end they will offer jobs to those they like/prefer. My info is 10 yrs old though. So they may have changed the process.

Please, reconsider this. Latest news is Perimeter's wait is 2-3 years now. Transwest is well, Transwest. Do yourself a favor and do some more homework before going through with either. Good luck.

Have you considered North Wright? Time to flight line there is pretty quick these days some guys from my flight school moved into the 1900 and twotter after 4-5 months.

The further you go from civilization, the faster you'll be flying.

That being said there are also direct entry flight jobs out there for 200 hours pilots if you look hard enough.

Captain X wrote:In the past that session is a competitive ground school for ramp staff. Where you take your TDG ground handling etc. At the end they will offer jobs to those they like/prefer. My info is 10 yrs old though. So they may have changed the process.

It still is. Friend of mine went there for it last year and ended up declining the position they offered. He's in ATR groundschool now with 200 hours in Honduras so I'm sure he's happy he declined. I also know a guy who spent 6+ months there on the ground (TWA) and left to go to Norman Wells because of a better opportunity.

What you should do is pack your car, print out 100 resumes and drop in at every 703 operator across the country.

awitzke wrote:What you should do is pack your car, print out 100 resumes and drop in at every 703 operator across the country.

+1

has anyone else heard from these two companys lately? I have never heard 3 year wait time until now so I would like to hear more about that. Everyone I talked to says 1-2 year average wait time. Has anyone worked for Perimeter recently and have any info about what work conditions are like?

If you go to Perimeter, just make sure you somehow keep your IFR skills up. The wait can be very long and this is still the case as of the past 3 or 4 months. The issue a lot of people have is they fail miserably at the sim evaluation when they finally get it because they don't bother doing any practice while on the ramp. So just heed that warning but it's a solid company and you'll get good experience and advancement opportunities are pretty good as well.

Just had dinner with a young pilot 2 nights ago who wasted 4 years on the ramp with Perimeter. Lots of promises over the years but no seat ever so he walked away.

Be careful with perimeter. You can end up working the ground there for a long long time. With the movement in the industry now I would go try northwright or honestly...Go do the road trip. Dont squander the spring. You can go get yourself into a Navajo right seat or be a diver driver etc. There's flying jobs out there for 200hr pilots you just have to go find them.

Av8r7 wrote:You can go get yourself into a Navajo right seat or be a diver driver etc. There's flying jobs out there for 200hr pilots you just have to go find them.

A year ago I did just this. After six weeks found myself a right seat Ho job with a great company, and a year later I'm Captain and have over 1000 hours. Hit the road, shake hands and you will find connections almost everywhere you turn. Many people helped me out and gave me advice while on my road trip, and pointed me in the right directions. You may not find a job, but you will never get one unless you try.

awitzke wrote:

Av8r7 wrote:You can go get yourself into a Navajo right seat or be a diver driver etc. There's flying jobs out there for 200hr pilots you just have to go find them.

A year ago I did just this. After six weeks found myself a right seat Ho job with a great company, and a year later I'm Captain and have over 1000 hours. Hit the road, shake hands and you will find connections almost everywhere you turn. Many people helped me out and gave me advice while on my road trip, and pointed me in the right directions. You may not find a job, but you will never get one unless you try.

+1

Something else to consider, if you can't take the time to do a long trip. Choose a region, fly there and rent a car. Spend a week driving around and dropping in at all the operators in that area. I met a guy who came into our office a few months ago who did just that. Flew into Winnipeg, rented a car and drove around Manitoba an NW Ontario. That flight and time spent introducing himself led to a job in my town.

^yes that is what I did. And yes now I have a job in that town...........

Hmm...small world.

awitzke wrote:Something else to consider, if you can't take the time to do a long trip. Choose a region, fly there and rent a car. Spend a week driving around and dropping in at all the operators in that area. I met a guy who came into our office a few months ago who did just that. Flew into Winnipeg, rented a car and drove around Manitoba an NW Ontario. That flight and time spent introducing himself led to a job in my town.

Why don't companies hire the poor? Only someone with rich parents can do a trip like that. Another example of how society nowdays treats everyone differently.

NickyNick wrote:

awitzke wrote:Something else to consider, if you can't take the time to do a long trip. Choose a region, fly there and rent a car. Spend a week driving around and dropping in at all the operators in that area. I met a guy who came into our office a few months ago who did just that. Flew into Winnipeg, rented a car and drove around Manitoba an NW Ontario. That flight and time spent introducing himself led to a job in my town.

Why don't companies hire the poor? Only someone with rich parents can do a trip like that. Another example of how society nowdays treats everyone differently.

Riiight...and 'poor' people are forking out $70K plus for a CPL/MIFR these days.

If you're going to troll, at least do it intelligently.

NickyNick wrote:

awitzke wrote:Something else to consider, if you can't take the time to do a long trip. Choose a region, fly there and rent a car. Spend a week driving around and dropping in at all the operators in that area. I met a guy who came into our office a few months ago who did just that. Flew into Winnipeg, rented a car and drove around Manitoba an NW Ontario. That flight and time spent introducing himself led to a job in my town.

Why don't companies hire the poor? Only someone with rich parents can do a trip like that. Another example of how society nowdays treats everyone differently.

Go away.

NickyNick wrote:Why don't companies hire the poor? Only someone with rich parents can do a trip like that. Another example of how society nowdays treats everyone differently.

Fair enough. No one is expected to have cash like that right out of flight school.

You don't have to start the road trip the very next day. Maybe spend a summer framing houses or labouring? Lots of ways to find quick, decent money and get you on the road.

NEITHER! Both companies treat low timers like dirt. Don't waste 2-3 years being a slave driver there.
Best low time ramp positions are North western air lease, air Labrador and air tindi. All respectful reputable companies that treat you like a human being. Perimeter and TWA managers could care less for their rampies.

Avoid these two like the plague. As many have stated, regardless of how the Aviation industry is...the wait is fairly long. Everyone I know that went through there did a good 2 years AVERAGE. The people that tell you 6 months to a year....well I still yet to have confirmations from more than 5 guys.

They put you in key positions. So within those 2 years...you become very good at your job assigned by them. And of course...if you don't find anything better...you will force yourself to be good if not the best at what you do. So to keep a good standing for management. And that's how they get you in the never-ending vicious circle.

Where does this mind set of "i work on the ramp I am entitled to a flying job" come from? Perimeter has never done bad to anyone who worked hard, and prepared for their flight line check.

Beer pong and using your company provided study material as coasters will NOT get you a flight line job and that is the way it should be.

That company has made great pilots who fly for every major in the country.