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canadian_aviator_4 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:37 pm What is the experience level of the new hires these days?
I've heard 750 Hrs people getting offers.
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When do new hires get posted to the seniority list? Is it as soon as possible, or once they get their line check done? Would someone that got his plane 3 days ago show up on the March seniority list?
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RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:17 pm When do new hires get posted to the seniority list? Is it as soon as possible, or once they get their line check done? Would someone that got his plane 3 days ago show up on the March seniority list?
Second day is I remember right. When you do the seniority draw
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flyingcanuck wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:13 am
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:17 pm When do new hires get posted to the seniority list? Is it as soon as possible, or once they get their line check done? Would someone that got his plane 3 days ago show up on the March seniority list?
Second day is I remember right. When you do the seniority draw
Cheers for that! 'ppreciate it!
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RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:17 pm When do new hires get posted to the seniority list? Is it as soon as possible, or once they get their line check done? Would someone that got his plane 3 days ago show up on the March seniority list?
There is no such thing as a "March" seniority list. The seniority list only gets updated once every January. The soonest they'll see their name on anything is in the next bid in April, or once they are assinged an aircraft and base they'll appear on that aircraft's elegibility list on Report Link.
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slicktop wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:44 pm
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:17 pm When do new hires get posted to the seniority list? Is it as soon as possible, or once they get their line check done? Would someone that got his plane 3 days ago show up on the March seniority list?
There is no such thing as a "March" seniority list. The seniority list only gets updated once every January. The soonest they'll see their name on anything is in the next bid in April, or once they are assinged an aircraft and base they'll appear on that aircraft's elegibility list on Report Link.
Seniority list is updated and issued quarterly.

Position list is updated monthly.
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slicktop wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:44 pm
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:17 pm When do new hires get posted to the seniority list? Is it as soon as possible, or once they get their line check done? Would someone that got his plane 3 days ago show up on the March seniority list?
There is no such thing as a "March" seniority list. The seniority list only gets updated once every January. The soonest they'll see their name on anything is in the next bid in April, or once they are assinged an aircraft and base they'll appear on that aircraft's elegibility list on Report Link.

Hmm. Sounds like this is in the wrong sub forum.
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BTD wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:59 am
slicktop wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:44 pm
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:17 pm When do new hires get posted to the seniority list? Is it as soon as possible, or once they get their line check done? Would someone that got his plane 3 days ago show up on the March seniority list?
There is no such thing as a "March" seniority list. The seniority list only gets updated once every January. The soonest they'll see their name on anything is in the next bid in April, or once they are assinged an aircraft and base they'll appear on that aircraft's elegibility list on Report Link.

Hmm. Sounds like this is in the wrong sub forum.
Yes - that reply was definitely based on the AC system.
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hank998899 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:37 pm
capt_Z wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:23 pm
hank998899 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:29 pm New bid numbers

CRJ 2xYYC 2xYVR FOs
Q400 6xYYZ CAs OR 4xYYC 2xYVR FOs
E175 2xYUL 6xYYZ FOs
How do they assign the equipment and base?

Depending who got hired first?
New hires that were part of ALPA carriers before get first pick in order of date of hire at their previous carrier, then it’s random seniority draw…
If you end up with something you don't want, when is the earliest you can switch? Is it possible to wait until the next bid?
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Roundel Randy wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:51 am
hank998899 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:37 pm
capt_Z wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:23 pm

How do they assign the equipment and base?

Depending who got hired first?
New hires that were part of ALPA carriers before get first pick in order of date of hire at their previous carrier, then it’s random seniority draw…
If you end up with something you don't want, when is the earliest you can switch? Is it possible to wait until the next bid?
Depends on what it is you don't want. If it's your base, that is a non-issue because you will more than likely be awarded your base of choice before the end of training.

If it is the equipment, you will be subject to an equipment freeze for 48 months,. The only exception is if you get awarded the E75 and want to move to YVR or YYC, in this case you would be released from your freeze after 24 months because there are no E75 based in the west.

The only other way to get released from your freeze is to bid a CA seat on your desired equipment, but beware that there are quite a few that have found making the move to the left seat on a new type somewhat challenging. Many (including me) will recommend to either switch type in same position then upgrade, OR upgrade on your current equipment and THEN switch type.

All that said, there are no "more desirable" equipment at Jazz; all types have something to offer and also have their inconveniences. Best is to make the most of it rather than remain bitter and twisted because you didn't get the type you wanted. That is a sure recipe to be miserable.

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Bid the e175. By far the best aircraft at jazz. Unless you want a Yyc or yvr base.
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canadian_aviator_4 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:00 pm Bid the e175. By far the best aircraft at jazz. Unless you want a Yyc or yvr base.
I would like YYC preferably or YVR because my wife and kids live out West. It's more about family than anything.
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Re: New hire bids

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Outlaw58 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:33 am
Roundel Randy wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:51 am
hank998899 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:37 pm

New hires that were part of ALPA carriers before get first pick in order of date of hire at their previous carrier, then it’s random seniority draw…
If you end up with something you don't want, when is the earliest you can switch? Is it possible to wait until the next bid?
Depends on what it is you don't want. If it's your base, that is a non-issue because you will more than likely be awarded your base of choice before the end of training.

If it is the equipment, you will be subject to an equipment freeze for 48 months,. The only exception is if you get awarded the E75 and want to move to YVR or YYC, in this case you would be released from your freeze after 24 months because there are no E75 based in the west.

The only other way to get released from your freeze is to bid a CA seat on your desired equipment, but beware that there are quite a few that have found making the move to the left seat on a new type somewhat challenging. Many (including me) will recommend to either switch type in same position then upgrade, OR upgrade on your current equipment and THEN switch type.

All that said, there are no "more desirable" equipment at Jazz; all types have something to offer and also have their inconveniences. Best is to make the most of it rather than remain bitter and twisted because you didn't get the type you wanted. That is a sure recipe to be miserable.

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It's more of a base issue for family reasons. Thanks for explaining the process though.
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Also westjet is hiring for Yyc base. And cargojet for yvr. Double the pay too, unless you are set on jazz.
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Roundel Randy wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:38 pm
canadian_aviator_4 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:00 pm Bid the e175. By far the best aircraft at jazz. Unless you want a Yyc or yvr base.
I would like YYC preferably or YVR because my wife and kids live out West. It's more about family than anything.
Depends where you live but if you want to stay out west and be home more u can't go wrong with the Q as you do layovers in BC/AB and lots of people go home during that time. So the time you spend commuting comes back because you'll have layovers at home. But then again why apply there when there is lots of better options at the moment.
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Does anyone know how long it is from when someone applies to when they might be contacted?
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Any news of last bids?
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Roundel Randy wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:55 am Does anyone know how long it is from when someone applies to when they might be contacted?
Depends on your experience. From a month to 10.
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capt_Z wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:46 am Any news of last bids?
I'm guessing Q, EMB and CRJ, mainly east.
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RJ YYZ 8
Q YYC 6
EMB YYZ 3
EMB YUL 3
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