Got to scan the ramp area before taxiing to the gate

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Got to scan the ramp area before taxiing to the gate

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C-FLQY, a de Havilland DHC-8-402 aircraft operated by Porter Airlines, was conducting flight POE132 from Newark/Liberty Intl, NJ (KEWR) to Toronto/Billy Bishop Toronto City, ON (CYTZ). As the aircraft was approaching Gate 8A at CYTZ, the number 1 engine propeller struck an empty baggage cart that was outside of the designated safe zone. The operator’s maintenance replaced the damaged propeller blades. The operator will be conducting an SMS investigation into this incident.

Similar to another incident caught on video a while back....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu2xQLEE8a4
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Can you just replace the propellor blades after a prop strike with a turbine? I know that with IC engines you have to do a runout tests and possibly teardown to check the accessory gears etc. Whats the procedure for ensuring that a turbine is ok after a prop strike?
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Maybe the engine was already shut down? They taxi single engine fairly regularly in the Q400
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It all depends on the engine type and the circumstances. On a PT 6 at low power, the gearbox inspection or repair is all that is usually necessary. With a TPE-331 in a Metro at a higher power setting, you may have to change the whole engine, the propeller, the most forward passenger seat and the fuselage in the area of the propeller plane of rotation. The most forward passenger seat in a Metro is often referred to as the hamburger seat. The prop blades can shatter and penetrate the fuselage. Remember the Q400 in Edmonton where the right landing gear collapsed. Another hamburger seat???
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Composite blades also shatter easily when hitting something solid. I can see that protecting the engine, especially if it isn't running. I'd imagine the engine maintenance manual has the answer we're looking for.
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I have a little under 4000 hours on the Dash 8 100 and 300. The last time I flew it was in 1995. I am retired now, many airplanes later.

Fortunately no incidents except a bird strike on the windshield and a lightning strike 4 miles final in the winter.

Has anyone encountered a ''solid'' birdstrike on the composite props? I would be curious to know the outcome. Somehow, without any technical knowledge in that arena, doubt they would just shatter.

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Live birds are also a lot softer than a steel baggage cart.
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oldtimer wrote:It all depends on the engine type and the circumstances. On a PT 6 at low power, the gearbox inspection or repair is all that is usually necessary. With a TPE-331 in a Metro at a higher power setting, you may have to change the whole engine, the propeller, the most forward passenger seat and the fuselage in the area of the propeller plane of rotation. The most forward passenger seat in a Metro is often referred to as the hamburger seat. The prop blades can shatter and penetrate the fuselage. Remember the Q400 in Edmonton where the right landing gear collapsed. Another hamburger seat???
Perimeter had a metro, not too long ago, strike a tug with its prop at a high power setting. I believe The airplane was written off with numerous pieces of blade penetrating the fuselage.
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