Roadrunnersmother wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:27 am Any tips on how to set up chats with chief pilots at airlines ?

5000+ hrs with no offers of employment from the many airlines I have applied at via their online application processes.

Roadrunnersmother wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:27 am Any tips on how to set up chats with chief pilots at airlines ?

5000+ hrs with no offers of employment from the many airlines I have applied at via their online application processes for pilot position.

Roadrunnersmother wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:53 pm Their pay seems fair to me. I would gladly accept an offer of employment however they don't hire higher time candidates.

DanWEC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:15 pm They probably would like a candidate with a phone. But then again, it's not like a fundamental aspect of being an airline pilot has anything to do with communications, logistics and teamwork, so who knows?!

FL007 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:39 am

Roadrunnersmother wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:27 am Any tips on how to set up chats with chief pilots at airlines ?

5000+ hrs with no offers of employment from the many airlines I have applied at via their online application processes for pilot position.

Curious, no offers, but how many interviews? Honestly.

Edit: this was his response:
Hi
No interviews.
I don't have a telephone.
They refuse to do anything over email, that's why I thought stopping by to chat with chief pilots be an option.
Should I hire a lawyer? I don't require a telephone to position. Discrimination is against labour code.
Cheers

So clearly trolling, or refuses on call reserve shifts.

Roadrunnersmother wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:05 pm

co-joe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:34 am Time to face it. High time pilots aren't in demand any more. Airlines want kids who live at home. If you do get an interview, they'll second guess complex life decisions you made 15 years ago, and then they'll go an hire a kid who was in diapers 15 years ago. They'll want references from the past 3 aviation jobs you have had, and then they'll go and hire someone who's working their first job. Not just their first flying job, their first ever job.

Xonga013 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:16 am

co-joe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:34 am Time to face it. High time pilots aren't in demand any more. Airlines want kids who live at home. If you do get an interview, they'll second guess complex life decisions you made 15 years ago, and then they'll go an hire a kid who was in diapers 15 years ago. They'll want references from the past 3 aviation jobs you have had, and then they'll go and hire someone who's working their first job. Not just their first flying job, their first ever job.

Sad but true.

co-joe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:34 am Time to face it. High time pilots aren't in demand any more. Airlines want kids who live at home. If you do get an interview, they'll second guess complex life decisions you made 15 years ago, and then they'll go an hire a kid who was in diapers 15 years ago. They'll want references from the past 3 aviation jobs you have had, and then they'll go and hire someone who's working their first job. Not just their first flying job, their first ever job.

complexintentions wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:22 am I must have missed the part in the original poster's comments where he mentioned he is an experienced captain with a widebody type rating. (Hint: he didn't.) If he had said he's A330 rated and has command experience I would be more surprised he hasn't found employment. Glad it's worked out for you and all, but your personal experience (or mine) is hardly relevant to the OP's situation.

The comment you replied to doesn't claim there aren't plenty of jobs, only that experience is less in demand than it was. Hard to dispute that when you look how most recruiting offers are structured now: lower experience requirements, lower pay, higher bonds. But I'm not sure I could call some of those NTR job ads I've seen with the massive bonds "opportunities", more like indentured servitude.

In response to the airline's expansion, we have made some changes to our requirements, which are designed to improve job security, and create more opportunities for pilots with Emirates, which will enhance career progression prospects.

If you have

- experience flying multi-engine, multi-crew, turboprop and/or jet aircraft, including business jets weighing at least 10 tonnes
- a valid ICAO ATPL (or USA equivalent) with an unrestricted class one medical certificate *Pilots with Frozen ATPL type rated on Airbus or Boeing can be invited for the selection on the proviso that they obtain a full ATPL prior to joining
- English language fluency to ICAO English Level 4 or above
- flown at least 150 hours within the last 12 months on an aircraft with MTOW ≥ 10T

Eric Janson wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:35 am

co-joe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:34 am Time to face it. High time pilots aren't in demand any more. Airlines want kids who live at home. If you do get an interview, they'll second guess complex life decisions you made 15 years ago, and then they'll go an hire a kid who was in diapers 15 years ago. They'll want references from the past 3 aviation jobs you have had, and then they'll go and hire someone who's working their first job. Not just their first flying job, their first ever job.

Don't agree - plenty of jobs for experienced Type Rated Pilots globally.

When I get called to discuss employment it isn't by some HR type. The last employment call I had was from the A330 Chief Pilot - he said there were no vacancies on the A340 and would I be interested in a position on the A330 fleet? When I called back a few days later to explain that I had decided to take another job I was told to "Contact us if you need a job"

My last interview was a 20 minute informal chat followed by a visual circuit in the Simulator. This was on a Friday. Ground school started on Monday.

The only road trips I've done is to attend interviews/selection. All applications are online these days.

Old fella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:17 am You currently fly the A340. It is my favourite looking airplane always admired it as a graceful aircraft with its four engines, probably a joy to fly as well. I remember a few years back flying a TC C550 from YOW to YYR and one passed by us over Labrador, believe it was a -600 series with the bigger engines, can’t remember the airline. Had I had my iPhone 8(unheard of then) it would have made a stunning picture for me anyway.