Localizer wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:25 pmI haven’t said which side of this game I sit on, but I do have skin in the game. I try not to let that be the focal point of my comments, instead try to see things from both perspectives.=altiplano post_id=1145066 time=1614024229 user_id=3052]
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I’m the farthest thing from a snowflake bud, but the contempt people are displaying has become nauseating at this point.
I'm sure you aren't. As I said, lighten up. Can't we come to an understanding?
I'm not offended that you want what's best for you and your colleagues, I get that's what you want... so why are you offended that I would want what's best for me and mine?
Contempt? Not at all, I wish you the best. But it doesn't mean that I have to happily give up my future for you.
Again, I understand your position, where you're coming from. Why can't you understand where I might be coming from?
I don't want a kick in the nuts...
I read your comments and process them into the bigger picture. The concerns you have are justified, and more than likely shared by all others involved. For instance, all seniority will be affected, both sides .. how are you personally losing more than anyone else? (Relative to where you currently sit) Layoffs, CR already stated that layoffs will be equal, how is anyone losing anymore? I see more loss than gains for the entire group in the short term, but there is a lot of potential in the future.
It’s tough to hold onto the hope that this will work itself out and we will all “win” in the end, specially when all we seem to do, is keep giving with not much in return. By nature I am an optimist and I hope once this pandemic is over we see the equivalent of the roaring twenties come back and version 2.0 of the Golden era of aviation. If that does happen ... none of this will matter and it’ll be but a memory.
you are willfully ignoring altiplanos point.
I assume You are intelligent and able to understand if you choose to.
If Transat has 700 guys laid off and AC buys them and recalling those 700 guys delays recalling AC pilots how is that not the AC pilots losing more than they would if Transat doesn’t get bought.
We do not work for the same company, we don’t even have the same union. Why would we as Air Canada pilots strive for an “equal” outcome to our own determine as you say?
The level of entitlement in this thread by some Transat guys boggles the mind. Not only are the AC pilots supposed to sacrifice their own jobs and career progression they are expected to be happy about it in the name of solidarity with the Transat pilots.
The very same pilots who were always willing to do the job for at least a 20% discount while at the same time complaining about ACPAs poor bargaining dragging the industry down.