Aviation sector once again takes another hit

[Heavy Rayn]

It’s almost ironic that this article was released the day that the Liberal government announced an additional entry measure for incoming air travellers to Canada, in the proof of a negative covid test. How much more of a hit will the Canadian aviation industry take before the government provides specific aviation sector support?

https://financialpost.com/transportatio ... -time-soon

[dhc#]

It’s almost ironic that this article was released the day that the Liberal government announced an additional entry measure for incoming air travellers to Canada, in the proof of a negative covid test. How much more of a hit will the Canadian aviation industry take before the government provides specific aviation sector support?

https://financialpost.com/transportatio ... -time-soon

Not part of "The Great Reset" manifesto that Turdo is selling

[sanjet]

Think about this:

Over a 10 month period up to today:
-Head doctor said not to wear a mask

Few months later:
-Wear a mask

Any virologist would have told you a second wave was coming and mutations were expected.

Winter:
-Goverment acts surprised again and shuts everything down. We are already running behind vaccinations massively compared to other first world countries.


Thats all that the goverment has done.... just think about that for a second. The only reason this pandemic will end is due to private enterprise creating vaccines. Nothing proactive happened in 10 months!!!!

Even Bill Gates has stated he comfortably thinks this pandemic will end in 4th quarter 2021.

The goverment hasn't done anything and they know they are looking like idiots. They just want to pretend they are doing something before this pandemic is over. A simple test on arrival at all Canadian airports should have been implemented months ago.

[Inverted2]

Does it really matter anymore? The Rona is everywhere now. What difference does it make if a few more arrive on a plane? Toronto alone had over 1000 cases today, and that's only positive tests, multiply that by 100 if you want to get the real number for the general population.

[Torontomaplelaughs]

Does it really matter anymore? The Rona is everywhere now. What difference does it make if a few more arrive on a plane? Toronto alone had over 1000 cases today, and that's only positive tests, multiply that by 100 if you want to get the real number for the general population.

Exactly...

[McKinley]

It’s almost ironic that this article was released the day that the Liberal government announced an additional entry measure for incoming air travellers to Canada, in the proof of a negative covid test. How much more of a hit will the Canadian aviation industry take before the government provides specific aviation sector support?

https://financialpost.com/transportatio ... -time-soon

Not part of "The Great Reset" manifesto that Turdo is selling

Nope! Not at all.. ( said extremely sarcastically)

Time for a new career..

[RippleRock]

Trudumb's agenda is to reduce carbon emissions to ZERO. Aviation produces carbon emissions. He WILL NOT support an industry that produces carbon dioxide as a by-product.

Get used to it. More taxes on flying and NO support for aviation in Canada under a Liberal regime.

He will do everything in his power to prevent Canadians from engaging in activities that increase their carbon-footprint. The oil and gas industry in Canada is doomed, as is anything related to it.



FWIW, Trudeau's immigration policy is the biggest hypocrisy in Canadian history. More immigrants equal more carbon-emissions, far more. David Attenborough has been quoted as saying that the only thing that will level or decrease carbon in the atmosphere is a leveling of the population. Yet our doors are wide open. You can't have it both ways.

[Inverted2]

Trudumb's agenda is to reduce carbon emissions to ZERO. Aviation produces carbon emissions. He WILL NOT support an industry that produces carbon dioxide as a by-product.

Get used to it. More taxes on flying and NO support for aviation in Canada under a Liberal regime.

He will do everything in his power to prevent Canadians from engaging in activities that increase their carbon-footprint. The oil and gas industry in Canada is doomed, as is anything related to it.



FWIW, Trudeau's immigration policy is the biggest hypocrisy in Canadian history. More immigrants equal more carbon-emissions, far more. David Attenborough has been quoted as saying that the only thing that will level or decrease carbon in the atmosphere is a leveling of the population. Yet our doors are wide open. You can't have it both ways.

You nailed it. I wonder if they test the illegal border crossers at Roxham Road?

[Rockie]

You two can be counted on to turn any issue into an anti-immigrant screed.

For what it’s worth I don’t know if David Attenborough actually said what you quote, but controlling human population growth is hardly the only thing that will curtail CO2 increases in the atmosphere. Technology and government policies fit in there too don’t you think, along with modifying our own behaviour? Besides, as we all live in the same worldwide bubble what side of some man-made line we live on is not very relevant, it’s the total population of the earth that matters the most.

What we all need to consider is not immigration (legal or illegal) wrt global warming, but forced human migration as large parts of the earth become unliveable. Climate refugees. The earth will be just fine without us, it’s humans we’re trying to save. It would be wonderful if a large segment of those humans weren’t working against that goal.

[altiplano]

Trudumb's agenda is to reduce carbon emissions to ZERO. Aviation produces carbon emissions. He WILL NOT support an industry that produces carbon dioxide as a by-product.

Get used to it. More taxes on flying and NO support for aviation in Canada under a Liberal regime.

He will do everything in his power to prevent Canadians from engaging in activities that increase their carbon-footprint. The oil and gas industry in Canada is doomed, as is anything related to it.

Remember it's to reduce Canadian carbon emissions. But it is a net zero world...

Those flights will still be done by non-Canadian airlines so the emmisions will still be there, they just won't be Canadian emissions (or jobs, or standard of living, or wealth creation) anymore.

Oil will still be burnt, it will just create wealth primarily for dictators and despots in countries that utilize borderline slave labour practises and absolutely no environmental standards vs. creating good working class Canadian jobs and wealth creation, contributing to government royalties to support our robust government programming and transfer payments to poorer provinces.

Those factories that are going to leave will still turn and make emissions, but they won't make their emissions in Canada anymore... they'll take their jobs, their taxes, their wealth creation for Canada and move it to Mexico or China where they don't have to deal with our high and layered tax upon tax structure. They'll get to operate under even more relaxed environmental rules than they were already tolerating in Canada. They still make the same emissions, if not more, but it won't be Canadian carbon... or Canadian wealth...

There isn't going to be much money left for the Canadian Welfare State... and all the carbon emissions will still be there, they just won't be Canadian anymore...

We already had the largest transfer of wealth in history from the West to China, it lifted hundreds of millions of people, if not a billion people, out of poverty and still they are ran by a totalitarian liar. What comes next via the Paris agreement is what's left of the wealth in the West...

Virtue signalling, Western guilt, that's all this is.. nothing with change as long as we are prepared to allow the jobs to go to developing countries... we're shooting ourselves in the foot for nothing.

[Rockie]

Virtue signalling, Western guilt, that's all this is.. nothing with change as long as we are prepared to allow the jobs to go to developing countries... we're shooting ourselves in the foot for nothing.

It almost sounds like you support leading the world in clean, sustainable energy development to, you know, keep the jobs here.

[altiplano]

Okay McGuinty....

How did that go in Ontario... high electricity costs, factories relocating...

Pipe dreaming...

[Rockie]

Okay McGuinty....

How did that go in Ontario... high electricity costs, factories relocating...

Pipe dreaming...

Such a pessimist. Humans invented medicine, flew men to the moon, sent a probe outside our own solar system, developed GPS, explored the bottom of our oceans and created internal combustion engines that are now slowly killing us. Coming up with clean sustainable energy is certainly within our capability, it's just a matter of imagination and collective will. Neither of which people like you contribute to so it would be appreciated if you just stepped out of the way and stopped impeding progress.

[Dh8Classic]

Okay McGuinty....

How did that go in Ontario... high electricity costs, factories relocating...

Pipe dreaming...

Such a pessimist. Humans invented medicine, flew men to the moon, sent a probe outside our own solar system, developed GPS, explored the bottom of our oceans and created internal combustion engines that are now slowly killing us. Coming up with clean sustainable energy is certainly within our capability, it's just a matter of imagination and collective will. Neither of which people like you contribute to so it would be appreciated if you just stepped out of the way and stopped impeding progress.

Human also bankrupted nations, started wars, believed in things that turned out to be completely wrong with massive consequences.

One thing I find particularly disgusting are people who made a life and career out of operating internal combustion engines and still collect a pension from the operation of internal combustion engines have the gall to tell others to give up their careers. I know a few hypocrites like that(and they still fly small aircraft). I suggest we start with cutting the pensions of those concerned about the killing from internal combustion engines that collect money from that activity. That money could be use for research into green energy, to stop the killing they are so concerned about. Maybe we could seize their airplanes and cars as well.

It reminds me of the ones on this forum that voted for parties that promoted green energy and now whine that the people they voted for should send some sort of subsidy to them because it turns out that they are affected by their own vote(which was actually based on some other self-serving reason with the thought that green policies wouldn't really have consequences for them).

[Rockie]

You’re very pessimistic as well, you too should step aside.

[altiplano]

ACPA should immediately agree with the airline to cancel the SRP portion of the pension for the retirees. People like Rickie are being paid with blood money burnt out the exhaust. That is something we just can't burden these delicate seniors with.

We will also have to ban all retiree pass travel. Don't want to burn any more gas than necessary hauling dead weight on the few flights left at the airline.. plus as an at risk group and efficacy of the vaccines not 100% these seniors shouldn't leave their homes. We can't be responsible for their health and welfare.

Stay home and stay safe Rickie!

[Rockie]

Serious problems require serious people to come up with serious solutions. That clearly leaves you guys out. Best you can do is deliberately juvenile misspelling of names.

[Dh8Classic]

Serious problems require serious people to come up with serious solutions. That clearly leaves you guys out. Best you can do is deliberately juvenile misspelling of names.

He is just calling you out as a fraud.

Making your living off of internal combustion engines.

Give up your entire pension payments to something like the Sierra Club or the Suzuki foundation if you want any credibility.

[Rockie]

You’re right. I should have singlehandedly invented a zero emission aircraft capable of intercontinental flight with hundreds of passengers. I suppose the only reason you and altiplano didn’t is because you didn’t want to.

My bad.

[albertdesalvo]

Give up your entire pension payments to something like the Sierra Club or the Suzuki foundation if you want any credibility.

Ridiculous.

[dhc#]

Not to mention one should give up their other "indexed" pension to help the cause.

[RippleRock]

You two can be counted on to turn any issue into an anti-immigrant screed.

For what it’s worth I don’t know if David Attenborough actually said what you quote, but controlling human population growth is hardly the only thing that will curtail CO2 increases in the atmosphere. Technology and government policies fit in there too don’t you think, along with modifying our own behaviour? Besides, as we all live in the same worldwide bubble what side of some man-made line we live on is not very relevant, it’s the total population of the earth that matters the most.

What we all need to consider is not immigration (legal or illegal) wrt global warming, but forced human migration as large parts of the earth become unliveable. Climate refugees. The earth will be just fine without us, it’s humans we’re trying to save. It would be wonderful if a large segment of those humans weren’t working against that goal.

I think you got a bone to pick with me troll. I have never once brought up immigration in a past post.

However, debate that Canada importing foreign masses improves the Canadian carbon footprint. Decreasing it is his objective, and more people wherever they come from is highly counter-productive. That wierdo has a hidden agenda for certain, and it doesn't include paying down the staggering debt he's created.

Spare me further comment though. I've read plenty of the nearly 10,000 Rockie posts and we fundamentally disagree. I care not.

[altiplano]

YTimmie, you cheerlead the demise of the rest of us, our livelihoods, our futures. All while we go through the hardest times the industry that provided and continues to provide so well for you goes through the shits. So I suggest you keep your fucking mouth shut. It's high time you move on and go fly your personal aircraft and drive your sports car... or whatever the fock it is you do with your time now.

[Aussiecat]

Perhaps a separate forum topic area for political bickering, I see it a lot on posts here these days, when I bother to visit the 'general' section.

I "Don't" care really about individuals Political view point, Anymore than most would about mine.

It would be great if in 2021, not every thread gets injected with venom about which ever political party/ Politician they dislike.
Not likely to happen so I shall continue to not bother.

I miss Just Curious, his comment were for the most part constructive

[Rockie]

YTimmie, you cheerlead the demise of the rest of us, our livelihoods, our futures. All while we go through the hardest times the industry that provided and continues to provide so well for you goes through the shits. So I suggest you keep your fucking mouth shut. It's high time you move on and go fly your personal aircraft and drive your sports car... or whatever the fock it is you do with your time now.

Touched a nerve there I see. I do actually have an opinion on the fate of the oil industry and the government's handling of this crisis including their actions (or lack of) specific to this industry. I haven't expressed that opinion here and you don't know what it is, so your statement above about cheerleading the demise of the rest of you, your livelihoods and your futures is just delusional drivel and a figment of your hateful imagination. I was commenting on a couple other posters ability to insert anti-immigrant sentiments into every conversation, coyly suggesting a retool of the oil industry to clean sustainable energy would benefit Canada and retain jobs, and pointing out that incessant complaining about every single aspect of the governments response to the crisis does not help. You hinder. You are -1's. I'm not asking you to be +1's because that clearly won't happen, but being 0's would at least keep people like you from impeding progress. BTW when I say "you" I don't just mean you personally, I'm talking about all the collective whiny bitch "you's" that contribute nothing but criticism and think you're smarter and more qualified than the actual real life experts you hate so much.

I get it, times are tough. But believe it or not you are not the only ones suffering and it would do your personalities some good to remember that.