Log Book - simple question or not:)

Mig29 · Post by **Mig29** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:13 pm

Would you buy a big Log Book with double amount of entries...or you would stick with good old, mini version we all probably buy at every aviation shop.

You've seen the new Aviation World Log Book with Dc-3 on top cover? those big ones I mean....

thanks for your 2 cents:)

monkeyspankmasterflex · Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:35 pm

Maybe you should buy a book on decision making.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:41 pm

HHAAHAHAHHA!!!! LMAO!

Man that's funny. Go big younge man...go big.

My hump...my hump...damn you!! Now I've got that catchy little ditty stuck in my head.
RJ

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:42 am

It would appear, reading the above, that size does matter

Seriously ... my first logbook was a "little" one, which filled up
pretty quickly. I switched to the "big" logbooks after that, and
even those fill up pretty quickly, and I don't even fly very much compared to some guys here.

The cost difference between the two isn't very much, considering
it's something you're going to keep your entire life!

Here's the little 600-entry $10 one:

http://www.canada-shops.com/Stores/vipp ... 661.2.html

And here's the "big" 2700-entry $30 one:

http://www.canada-shops.com/Stores/vipp ... 662.2.html

2700 entries ain't gonna last a lifetime, trust me on
that. If you only fly 270 flights a year, it's done in
only 10 years.

Spring the extra $20, man. Cough it up!

RVR12 · Post by **RVR12** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:13 am

I have the big one from aviation world.. i like it... and it has my name foil stamped in the front...

and it looks "professional" lol

Mig29 · Post by **Mig29** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:29 pm

I am not concerned about $$...just practicality...cause if you lose a small one, you can 'recovrer' easier your data, rather than loosing 2700 entires?

that's what I meant...

Blue Yonder · Post by **Blue Yonder** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:28 pm

Always easier keeping track of where one log book is rather than 20..

Blue

HuD 91gt · Post by **HuD 91gt** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:00 pm

I just bought the new big one from Aviation world. My name foiled in and everything. Looks pretty snazzy, although I have yet to make a mark in it yet.

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:55 pm

You will find, when you grow up, that on complex a/c you will have to log the number of landings, takeoffs, Cat IIs, precision approaches, night t/os and landings, you name it, you log it. On simple a/c, you can just log totals. Try keeping track of TC, FAA and JAA all at once....buy a fancy one and one day it will be useful. I'm on my third. Big one, that is. 47 small ones.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:15 pm

Then the time will come when you don't log any flights in a personal log because there is no reason to.

The only thing wrong with that is you are ending a career, not starting.

Cat

mantogasrsrwy · Post by **mantogasrsrwy** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:46 am

xsbank said

You will find, when you grow up, that on complex a/c you will have to log the number of landings, takeoffs, Cat IIs, precision approaches, night t/os and landings, you name it, you log it.

Most of the grown ups I fly with log PIC and SIC....thats about it. Never heard of logging approachs, but I suppose all those details make the book more interesting. I'm not sure if night time is even worth it after you have your ATPL.

windshear · Post by **windshear** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:16 am

I guess the grownups you fly with don't have to worry about Currency??

C-GPME · Post by **C-GPME** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:33 am

Mig29 wrote:I am not concerned about $$...just practicality...cause if you lose a small one, you can 'recovrer' easier your data, rather than loosing 2700 entires?

that's what I meant...

I keep two log books on the go, as well i have a program on excel i also up date every week, then i email it to myself, that way if my house burns down or someone steals my books then i have it on the internet and can retrieve it wherever i am.

Cheers

PME

mantogasrsrwy · Post by **mantogasrsrwy** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:34 am

I thought a ride every six months made us current. Anyway, I've never heard of anyone anyone logging approachs at my company. Maybe I'll ask around. I know the captains have to do an autoland periodically to be current at it but I think they just tell the office somehow. And so yes windshear, the grown ups at my company don't really have to worry about currency. Besides.....a log book is not what makes you current.

Aviatrix2 · Post by **Aviatrix2** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:59 am

Buy the big book. That's half as often that you have to total the page, add the page total to the running total and carry the new running total over to the next page. You don't want to do that every ten flights.

Large or small, don't lose any of your logbooks. Keep them in a safe, preferably fireproof place. Don't take your logbook to work. Especially if you fly floats.

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:04 am

I took all my log books to a book binder and had them all bound into 1 BIG BOOK. That was good many years ago when I logged my time. Now I keep a daily diary where I keep track of not only my time but my money.

.

Rubberbiscuit · Post by **Rubberbiscuit** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:16 am

I don't have that issue. 12 years into my career I have no money to keep track of

! On a happier note, I have a big fat logbook I have been using all along. it is only 2/3 full. Easier than the small ones I find.

Hotwings · Post by **Hotwings** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:29 pm

I say buy the BIG one. May look "stupid" walking into an interview with an arm full of logbooks?

Ryan Coke · Post by **Ryan Coke** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:04 am

Geez, if you have a computer, use an excel spreadsheet, or one of the computer based logbooks you can buy off the net. Then back it up onto a disk however often makes you comfortable. Then print it up when you have to go for an interview. I can send you a copy of the template I use if you want.

I just keep my handheld with me, fill it out during flight, then it syncs up with the PC, plus I back it up once a year or so, so I've got 3 copies of it.

I dunno, the actual paper book seems a little passe to me. Oh yeah, I don't know anyone who logs approaches and all the detail stuff that someone was promoting. And most of the guys I work with either use those little red books, or have a stack of pairing sheets in a shoe box to cover for their logbook.

mantogasrsrwy · Post by **mantogasrsrwy** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:02 am

I recently bought one of those logbooks with the DC 3 on the front. Price was right but I think it was a big mistake. Just thought I'd warn anyone who is a professional pilot, as it says on the cover. (kinda cheesy if you ask me) It should really be a quarter of the size and called beginners logbook. It has 2 skinny columns which force you to put each leg on a line or carry the routing over into the remarks. (This was discussed above, I don't know anyone with a ATPL who does this) In addition the columns for the hours are extremely skinny to make room for a bunch of superfluous columns like cross-country, take offs and landings etc. Before, someone jumps all over me and says they are not superfluous....I say once you have and ATPL and are what it says on the cover....they are. Anyway, as far as I'm concerned I made a big mistake buying this one and I'm going to be cursing it for years to come.

cedar tree · Post by **cedar tree** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:10 am

Electronic logbooks---- is anyone using them yet? Any suggestions on these? Seem to be the way to go in our day and age?

mantogasrsrwy · Post by **mantogasrsrwy** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:26 am

I've found something else I don't like about it. You can't carry the previous totals to the top of the page. I've decide to bite the bullet and write it off. If anyone wants to tear out the first page and use it......maybe for a rough logbook PM me... 10 bucks. Mint condition, first page filled in.

mclb · Post by **mclb** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:56 pm

He cedar tree go check out this electronic logbook http://www.mycanadianlogbook.com

Rick
Mycanadianlogbook.com

cedar tree wrote:Electronic logbooks---- is anyone using them yet? Any suggestions on these? Seem to be the way to go in our day and age?

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DHQ · Post by **DHQ** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:41 pm

cedar tree wrote:Electronic logbooks---- is anyone using them yet? Any suggestions on these? Seem to be the way to go in our day and age?

I'm all for the electronic logbook. I gave up on the paper ones years ago. I just use an excel spreadsheet, although I should learn how to use access because I think that would be better.

Main advantages I see:
1. back it up properly, and it's impossible to ever lose your logbook.
2. if you're like me and have writing like a 5 year old, a printed logbook looks nice.
3. easy to tally up various different times: multi, turbine, times on type, how much flying you done over a certain period of time....
4. you can have whatever columns you want. So if you want to log cat I, II and III approaches, go for it!

I have the following column headings in my spreadsheet:

PIC, 2IC, Dual, Multi, Turbine, Tailwheel, Night, xcty day, xcty night, IMC, IFR, IFR Sim

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:55 pm

I always liked VIPs books

Log Book - simple question or not:)

Log Book - simple question or not:)

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