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Cessna 501 crash, Nashville area.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbFHQDzEOd8

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7 dead.

I think I'll pass on offering any opinions, too. Lesson in that.
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Re: Cessna 501 crash, Nashville area.

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rookiepilot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbFHQDzEOd8

ATC Comm and track.

7 dead.

I think I'll pass on offering any opinions, too. Lesson in that.

So you are just happy to report 7 souls are lost without offering any sort of takeaways that can potentially prevent further loss of life in the future??!! Shame.

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Re: Cessna 501 crash, Nashville area.

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challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:43 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbFHQDzEOd8

ATC Comm and track.

7 dead.

I think I'll pass on offering any opinions, too. Lesson in that.

So you are just happy to report 7 souls are lost without offering any sort of takeaways that can potentially prevent further loss of life in the future??!! Shame.

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That's the NTSB's job.

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In the highly unlikely event I had hard information on this crash or any other, I wouldn't be trying to feed my ego or garner attention by posting it here.

I'd forward it to the appropriate authority.
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Re: Cessna 501 crash, Nashville area.

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rookiepilot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:44 pm
challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:43 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbFHQDzEOd8

ATC Comm and track.

7 dead.

I think I'll pass on offering any opinions, too. Lesson in that.

So you are just happy to report 7 souls are lost without offering any sort of takeaways that can potentially prevent further loss of life in the future??!! Shame.

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That's the NTSB's job.
Sure it is NTSB’s job. Meaning that they get paid to come up with something in 18 months.

However, if you had a little bit of analytical ability, you too could have put the clues together and paint a picture. It would not be your “job” meaning you would not get paid for it. However, if you cared about making Aviation safer, it sure would be your responsibility to try to help others not get into the situation that caused the crash and loss of life and property.

But I get it, not everyone has the aptitude and integrity for the above.

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Re: Cessna 501 crash, Nashville area.

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This looks spooky. They had speed, some altitude, were turning as instructed.
Only abnormal events were some kind of alarm when the second pilot comes on the radio and a lack of communication after that point.

Was that the sound of a master caution or master warning? Didn't sound like a fire bell.

Maybe some smoke in the cockpit leading to desorientation? Then again by that point the autopilot would likely have been on.

The speeds displayed don't seem to point to a stall or spiral dive scenario either. Very weird.
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challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:53 pm However, if you had a little bit of analytical ability, you too could have put the clues together and paint a picture. It would not be your “job” meaning you would not get paid for it. However, if you cared about making Aviation safer, it sure would be your responsibility to try to help others not get into the situation that caused the crash and loss of life and property.

But I get it, not everyone has the aptitude and integrity for the above.
That's precisely what every reporter who comes on here is trying to do, and we chase them all off like squirrels digging in the wrong garden.
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rookiepilot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:44 pm
challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:43 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbFHQDzEOd8

ATC Comm and track.

7 dead.

I think I'll pass on offering any opinions, too. Lesson in that.

So you are just happy to report 7 souls are lost without offering any sort of takeaways that can potentially prevent further loss of life in the future??!! Shame.

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That's the NTSB's job.

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In the highly unlikely event I had hard information on this crash or any other, I wouldn't be trying to feed my ego or garner attention by posting it here.

I'd forward it to the appropriate authority.

You just don’t have what it takes :smt040

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Re: Cessna 501 crash, Nashville area.

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RedAndWhiteBaron wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:01 pm
challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:53 pm However, if you had a little bit of analytical ability, you too could have put the clues together and paint a picture. It would not be your “job” meaning you would not get paid for it. However, if you cared about making Aviation safer, it sure would be your responsibility to try to help others not get into the situation that caused the crash and loss of life and property.

But I get it, not everyone has the aptitude and integrity for the above.
That's precisely what every reporter who comes on here is trying to do, and we chase them all off like squirrels digging in the wrong garden.
Maybe get your PPL first before chasing squirrels and reporters. Leave chasing to the big boys ... and by big boys I don’t mean PPL holders :smt040

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challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:06 pm Maybe get your PPL first before chasing squirrels and reporters. Leave chasing to the big boys ... and by big boys I don’t mean PPL holders :smt040
Nice try. But kudos, sir, for sullying the memory of the dead by insulting me personally.
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RedAndWhiteBaron wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:12 pm
challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:06 pm Maybe get your PPL first before chasing squirrels and reporters. Leave chasing to the big boys ... and by big boys I don’t mean PPL holders :smt040
Nice try. But kudos, sir, for sullying the memory of the dead by insulting me personally.
Believe me buddy, that was not an insult. There is no shame on being a pre-PPL.

At your stage, you probably are a better pilot than @rookiepilot ... and I mean it :smt040

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challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:16 pm Believe me buddy, that was not an insult. There is no shame on being a pre-PPL.

At your stage, you probably are a better pilot than @rookiepilot ... and I mean it :smt040
Maybe true, maybe not. But I'd bet I can fly a glider better than either of you, and damn, I've got some good stick and rudder skills still.

(got up to 6900MSL today so I'm kinda high on myself right now :smt040 )
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challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:43 pm
So you are just happy to report 7 souls are lost without offering any sort of takeaways that can potentially prevent further loss of life in the future??!! Shame.

It would not be your “job” meaning you would not get paid for it. However, if you cared about making Aviation safer, it sure would be your responsibility to try to help others not get into the situation that caused the crash and loss of life and property.

But I get it, not everyone has the aptitude and integrity for the above.
Challenger_nami,


You aren’t promoting aviation safety, you are a ghoul who once started a thread that asked people to vote on several of your hypotheses in regards to a fatal crash.

-That thread got yanked (with good reason) by the moderators.

In another thread that you authored, you made disparaging comments that the pilot was “over weight and out of C of G limits”. -Where is your proof? I’m still waiting for you to back that comment up.

Yet you have the nerve to actually believe that the above is “ok” under the guise of somehow educating us?

People such as yourself make me sick. I sincerely hope that you get your ass sued for libel.

-TPC
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challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:01 pm
You just don’t have what it takes
What are your qualifications and expertise in this area? Why do you think you "have what it takes?"
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Aviatard wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 4:44 am
challenger_nami wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 9:01 pm
You just don’t have what it takes
What are your qualifications and expertise in this area? Why do you think you "have what it takes?"
He's still waiting for his mom to bring his cereal down to the basement.
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