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Re: Encore Hiring 250 hour First Officers....

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khedrei wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:48 pm
Canadaflyer46 wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:32 am Mainline is struggling to hire people with 1500 hours, so I very much expect 250 for an FO will be happening very soon. There’s no one else to hire. Anyone with 1000 hours plus likely has enough experience in the industry already to realize that Encore is a dead end job and to hold out for mainline or try for Jazz/Porter/Flair/literally anywhere else.
Do you (or anyone else) know whether mainline has hired 1500+ hr pilots who had no turbine time?

Asking for a friend 😉
I would guess that without turbine you may need a little more than 1500. Depends on aircraft type. If you have 1500 hours in a C185 doing parajumps or flying at 30 ft above the trees for fishing camp….probably not.

If you have 1500 on a Dc-3 or cl-215, chances are higher. Personally I think major airlines are afraid people will start looking for magnetos switches on the engine start checklists, but stranger things have happened.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:08 pm
I would guess that without turbine you may need a little more than 1500. Depends on aircraft type. If you have 1500 hours in a C185 doing parajumps or flying at 30 ft above the trees for fishing camp….probably not.

If you have 1500 on a Dc-3 or cl-215, chances are higher. Personally I think major airlines are afraid people will start looking for magnetos switches on the engine start checklists, but stranger things have happened.
Chop 500 hours off of that. If you have 1000 TT and 800 on a 172 instructing, you are more than eligible and will be among similar experience in your ground school.
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Thanks @Canadaflyer46 and @averageatbest. Anyone else have latest info on the hiring scene for 250TT FOs.?
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averageatbest wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:28 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:08 pm
I would guess that without turbine you may need a little more than 1500. Depends on aircraft type. If you have 1500 hours in a C185 doing parajumps or flying at 30 ft above the trees for fishing camp….probably not.

If you have 1500 on a Dc-3 or cl-215, chances are higher. Personally I think major airlines are afraid people will start looking for magnetos switches on the engine start checklists, but stranger things have happened.
Chop 500 hours off of that. If you have 1000 TT and 800 on a 172 instructing, you are more than eligible and will be among similar experience in your ground school.
That's for Encore and not Mainline right ?
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RobertChow wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:22 am
averageatbest wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:28 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:08 pm
I would guess that without turbine you may need a little more than 1500. Depends on aircraft type. If you have 1500 hours in a C185 doing parajumps or flying at 30 ft above the trees for fishing camp….probably not.

If you have 1500 on a Dc-3 or cl-215, chances are higher. Personally I think major airlines are afraid people will start looking for magnetos switches on the engine start checklists, but stranger things have happened.
Chop 500 hours off of that. If you have 1000 TT and 800 on a 172 instructing, you are more than eligible and will be among similar experience in your ground school.
That's for Encore and not Mainline right ?
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Dear all,

Finally WJE by their new job posted closed the virtual doors to 250h pilots ?
https://pilotcareercenter.com/Pilot-Job ... Jet-Encore
Experience and Qualifications:
750 hours total time
100 hours fixed-wing pilot-in-command time
Look's like the virtual pilot shortage is over ?

Thanks
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cygair wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:28 pm Dear all,

Finally WJE by their new job posted closed the virtual doors to 250h pilots ?
https://pilotcareercenter.com/Pilot-Job ... Jet-Encore
Experience and Qualifications:
750 hours total time
100 hours fixed-wing pilot-in-command time
Look's like the virtual pilot shortage is over ?

Thanks

I Really doubt they did hire anybody with 250hrs anyways, that only meant you can still apply but reality is another game.
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cygair wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:28 pm Dear all,

Finally WJE by their new job posted closed the virtual doors to 250h pilots ?
https://pilotcareercenter.com/Pilot-Job ... Jet-Encore
Experience and Qualifications:
750 hours total time
100 hours fixed-wing pilot-in-command time
Look's like the virtual pilot shortage is over ?

Thanks
More likely the insurance companies finally putting their foot down.
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Maybe I'm just naive, but when looking for a company's job requirements, I find it's best to look at the company's jobs website.

As of this morning it appears that Encore's official requirement for the Dash 8 is still 250 hours (though with 1000+ hours preferred).

https://career4.successfactors.com/care ... xXbnRXZz09
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TalkingPie wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 5:45 am Maybe I'm just naive, but when looking for a company's job requirements, I find it's best to look at the company's jobs website.

As of this morning it appears that Encore's official requirement for the Dash 8 is still 250 hours (though with 1000+ hours preferred).

https://career4.successfactors.com/care ... xXbnRXZz09
Requirements below which the computers will automatically PFO you are not the same as the requirements below which the hiring team will not consider sending you a job offer.
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Why 250 and not the 200 of a bare CPL? What would one learn in three weeks at an interim job, or in ten thousand more dollars worth of renting?
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TalkingPie wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 5:45 am Maybe I'm just naive, but when looking for a company's job requirements, I find it's best to look at the company's jobs website.

As of this morning it appears that Encore's official requirement for the Dash 8 is still 250 hours (though with 1000+ hours preferred).

https://career4.successfactors.com/care ... xXbnRXZz09
Unfortunately the companies own website is inaccurate as well since the YYZ base no longer exists.
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lownslow wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 4:44 am Why 250 and not the 200 of a bare CPL? What would one learn in three weeks at an interim job, or in ten thousand more dollars worth of renting?
Because you need 250 hrs to be eligible for a type rating on a transport category airplane
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Big Pistons Forever wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 9:06 am
lownslow wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 4:44 am Why 250 and not the 200 of a bare CPL? What would one learn in three weeks at an interim job, or in ten thousand more dollars worth of renting?
Because you need 250 hrs to be eligible for a type rating on a transport category airplane
Oh, right. Maybe they’re petitioning TC to being that down lower too. Would this be a place where the MPL could apply to make it easier for them to find candidates?
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lownslow wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 1:47 pm
Big Pistons Forever wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 9:06 am
lownslow wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 4:44 am Why 250 and not the 200 of a bare CPL? What would one learn in three weeks at an interim job, or in ten thousand more dollars worth of renting?
Because you need 250 hrs to be eligible for a type rating on a transport category airplane
Oh, right. Maybe they’re petitioning TC to being that down lower too. Would this be a place where the MPL could apply to make it easier for them to find candidates?
I think that is what AC was looking at years ago. The multi-crew licence, basically if you have the ratings regardless of hours and we train you to our standards your good to go (or something like that, gee where has this played out before).
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As far as I know they don't have the training staff required to train 250 hour pilots, but they do interview them and pool them for later consideration. I haven't seen anyone in a groundschool yet with less than 1000 hours.
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That will change with their new 750TT
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Would Encore hire someone with 750TT if it were all survey/pipeline flying time in piston singles or is multi time weighed heavily?
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yowflyer23 wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:32 pm Would Encore hire someone with 750TT if it were all survey/pipeline flying time in piston singles or is multi time weighed heavily?
Give it a try. Most Q400 companies hiring people with around a thousand TT. Mostly instructors. That’s right seat c172 time. So you may be okay. Worst case scenario is you get the dreaded PFO, to which you cry for 5 minutes, down three fingers of whiskey and apply to the next
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GetAGripen wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 3:34 pm As far as I know they don't have the training staff required to train 250 hour pilots, but they do interview them and pool them for later consideration. I haven't seen anyone in a groundschool yet with less than 1000 hours.
I heard there was someone in this latest groundschool with 750 tt
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