Cat 3 medical with no fly prescription

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Cat 3 medical with no fly prescription

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So,
Newbie here...just retired at 39years old (sold my business) and looking to get my RPP or PPL in Canada.
Just wanna fly with wife and under 180hp so RPP is fine, but would prefer to get PPL for obvious reasons.

The issue...
I have back pain and take morphine (no-fly) for the last 9years, and probably the rest of my life but a low dose.

I pass all my medicals to drive super b (semi) and licensed for everything from ambulance to school bus restriction free.

I also carry a license for explosives and firearms (no mental health issues... You think you get screened as a pilots...get an explosive license lol.

* maybe 1 mental health issue is hoping to blow all my money on flying :) and owning a aircraft.

0 addiction issues
0 drowsiness issues
0 blood pressure issues
Don't Drink or smoke weed
Ect.ect.
Fully monitored constantly from drs and pain specialists due to the prescription for any abuse ect.

But!
I assume I am pretty much fd and still won't passes my class 3 medical due to the prescription. Maybe class 4 too?

Waiting on a call back from T.C dr
Waiting on more info from approved medical examiners.

Not willing to lie or bend the rules..so don't bother commenting that as an option. (Kinda dumb to void insurance and lose millions of $ to lawyers ect.)


Thoughts, ideas? Is it a case by case review or am I wasting my time, and need to stick to Ultra-lights..or am i fd?

Posted from my cell phone...so no grammar or spelling police plz lol...

Thanks for all you help and ideas in advance...might not be what I wanna hear but thanks for that too!
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Re: Cat 3 medical with no fly prescription

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Look at the declaration for a category 4 medical, and decide if you meet the requirements:
https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/ ... 8-07_E.pdf
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Re: Cat 3 medical with no fly prescription

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Thanks for the reply..
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Re: Cat 3 medical with no fly prescription

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photofly wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:59 pm Look at the declaration for a category 4 medical, and decide if you meet the requirements:
https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/ ... 8-07_E.pdf
Thanks for the reply!

I do meet the requirements, but that still doesn't change the fact that my prescription is a no fly on tc approved meds...
So is it possible to get a exemption or no fly = grounded no matter what?
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Re: Cat 3 medical w anyith no fly prescription

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I am not sure that you can find any solace in this forum on whether Transport will allow you to fly while taking a narcotic, no matter how small the dose.
That being said, there is so much that is not clear about your condition, starting at age 30, and medical reports related to it, that makes it impossible to voice a muted opinion.
All of those factors need to be assessed by the competent authority, and as you have already started on that path, it remains to wait for their opinion.
My off the cuff view of the situation is that any amount of narcotic medication will disqualify a pilot, railway worker, or mariner under the present guidelines.
There is always the possibility, following a thorough review of your medical history and supporting documentation, that with appropriate restrictions you may be allowed to take to the air, so all is not lost until you hear from Transport about that.
I am, however, not optimistic that Transport would be willing to support such a request, given the bad optics and grief that would ensue if anything untoward were to ever occur as a result of your flying activity.
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Re: Cat 3 medical with no fly prescription

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Castorero wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:09 am I am not sure that you can get any solace from this forum on whether Transport will allow you to fly while taking a narcotic, no matter how small the dose.
That being said, there is so much that is not clear about you condition, starting at age 30, and medical reports related to it, that makes it impossible to voice a muted opinion.
All of those factors need to be assessed by the competent authority, and you have already started on that route.
It remains to wait for their opinion.
My off the cuff view of the situation is that any amount of narcotic medication will disqualify a pilot, railway worker, or mariner under the present guidelines.
There is always the possibility that with a thorough review of your medical history and supporting documentation, that with the appropriate restrictions you may be allowed to take to the air, so all is not lost until you hear from Transport about that.
However, I am not optimistic that Transport would be willing to support such a request, given the bad optics and grief that would ensue if anything untoward were to ever occur as a result of your flying activity.

Thanks for the reply !

Pretty much from my research it could be a battle...your and my thought ms are pretty much on the same page unfortunately for me... guess I'm in a holding pattern for now.
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