COVID is ALL BUT OVER.

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7ECA wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:46 pm
ReserveTank wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:44 pm That and the West directly sent Stalin armaments, vehicles, etc. One of those things they "forget' to teach in school.
Hardly. The Lend-Lease Act, and associated shipments via convoy are taught during history classes in high school when the Second World War is a significant topic of concern. The air and land route through Canada via the Alaska Highway as well as the Northwest Staging Route is covered as well.

The latter may be covered in somewhat more detail, being that it directly relates to Canada. But, the RCN also played a role in convoy escort duties to Murmansk.
Yes, the surface is glossed over, but the in-depth isn't taught, which is my principal complaint. Students are shown the "nice" side of the war. While true, it is at best trivia.
YYZSaabGuy wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:46 pm
ReserveTank wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:44 pm That and the West directly sent Stalin armaments, vehicles, etc. One of those things they "forget' to teach in school.
Nobody "forgot" to teach this stuff in school: I'm guessing you just didn't bother to show up the day World War II was on the agenda. You should also be aware that there's nothing in the least nefarious about this particular example of realpolitik: Hitler attacked the West, Hitler attacked Russia, ergo the West and Russia set aside their ideological differences temporarily and teamed up to defeat Hitler. It's really not that complicated.

The good news is that you can still take time off from posting idiocy on here and sign up for an on-line course in world history: https://www.coursera.org/courses?query=world%20history
Exactly the inner-city public school response that's expected. For midwits like you, WW2 started on Sep. 1, 1939 for no reason, and with no background. Treaty of Versailles, Weimar Germany, devaluation of currency, atrocities in Poland and Sudetenland. Did you learn about these crucial historical events at Hip-Hop Secondary?

And it is extremely complicated. You watch a lazy, prepackaged History Channel special and you think you know something? At least the poster above you knew about Lend-Lease (which should be common knowledge).
ergo the West and Russia set aside their ideological differences
This shows precisely that you have no idea what you're writing.
Set aside the Holodomor? AND Katyn? The West full well knew the Soviet's atrocities when they made the deal...it wasn't ideology holding them back. (Should prompt you to think about why they held back in the first place, also why they made indirect war with Lend-Lease). The other half of Lend-Lease is the Red Army rolling into Germany with American Studebakers pillaging women "8 to 80," usually in groups. Also, the ethics of supplying resources to firebomb all the children in Dresden when the Germans were already down.
The good news is that you can still take time off from posting idiocy on here and sign up for an on-line course in world history:
With 2 master's, I've done plenty of history. And you? Midwits like you are the reason we repeat the worst parts of history.
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FOD wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:14 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:41 pm
Inverted2 wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:27 pm

True but the average person is too stupid and brainwashed after 2 years of fear and vaccine propaganda from the media to think for themselves. It will be funny to hear my I-told-you-so’s once they find out the vaccines destroyed their immune systems for a flu with a 99.9+ survival rate.
You know, I wonder what the survival rate would be if you show up at the hospital and there are no icu beds for you, no need to answer because there is no way of knowing and after two years of anti government/vax rhetoric, you will never see the other side of the argument.
My resolution is the same as you, let this thing runs it’s course and let all the anti-vaxx idiots suffer the consequences of their choices. There will be collateral damage obviously and unfortunately but nonetheless, if you morons can’t get it yet, line up for the beds, if you can find one!
Agreed, the health care system will be far more efficient if we deny service to everyone who makes un-healthy decisions. Only healthy people should be allowed to use the health care system. Another pressing Canadian problem solved!
Reread what I wrote, not denying anything, the system itself will be overwhelmed and there will be no beds, I say let er buck.
In two days, I’ll get my booster and if in six months they say get another, guess what, I’ll fucking get it because I trust the science and the huge majority that is looking out for me.
When you show up and they say sorry no beds, my sympathy will not be for you, it’ll be for the health care worker who had to give you the bad news!
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ReserveTank wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:22 pm
7ECA wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:46 pm
ReserveTank wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:44 pm That and the West directly sent Stalin armaments, vehicles, etc. One of those things they "forget' to teach in school.
Hardly. The Lend-Lease Act, and associated shipments via convoy are taught during history classes in high school when the Second World War is a significant topic of concern. The air and land route through Canada via the Alaska Highway as well as the Northwest Staging Route is covered as well.

The latter may be covered in somewhat more detail, being that it directly relates to Canada. But, the RCN also played a role in convoy escort duties to Murmansk.
Yes, the surface is glossed over, but the in-depth isn't taught, which is my principal complaint. Students are shown the "nice" side of the war. While true, it is at best trivia.
YYZSaabGuy wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:46 pm
ReserveTank wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:44 pm That and the West directly sent Stalin armaments, vehicles, etc. One of those things they "forget' to teach in school.
Nobody "forgot" to teach this stuff in school: I'm guessing you just didn't bother to show up the day World War II was on the agenda. You should also be aware that there's nothing in the least nefarious about this particular example of realpolitik: Hitler attacked the West, Hitler attacked Russia, ergo the West and Russia set aside their ideological differences temporarily and teamed up to defeat Hitler. It's really not that complicated.

The good news is that you can still take time off from posting idiocy on here and sign up for an on-line course in world history: https://www.coursera.org/courses?query=world%20history
Exactly the inner-city public school response that's expected. For midwits like you, WW2 started on Sep. 1, 1939 for no reason, and with no background. Treaty of Versailles, Weimar Germany, devaluation of currency, atrocities in Poland and Sudetenland. Did you learn about these crucial historical events at Hip-Hop Secondary?

And it is extremely complicated. You watch a lazy, prepackaged History Channel special and you think you know something? At least the poster above you knew about Lend-Lease (which should be common knowledge).
ergo the West and Russia set aside their ideological differences
This shows precisely that you have no idea what you're writing.
Set aside the Holodomor? AND Katyn? The West full well knew the Soviet's atrocities when they made the deal...it wasn't ideology holding them back. (Should prompt you to think about why they held back in the first place, also why they made indirect war with Lend-Lease). The other half of Lend-Lease is the Red Army rolling into Germany with American Studebakers pillaging women "8 to 80," usually in groups. Also, the ethics of supplying resources to firebomb all the children in Dresden when the Germans were already down.
The good news is that you can still take time off from posting idiocy on here and sign up for an on-line course in world history:
With 2 master's, I've done plenty of history. And you? Midwits like you are the reason we repeat the worst parts of history.
Just goes to show you!
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palebird wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:40 am Wow. What a load of hogwash. The official line "you are not going to get as sick if you are vaxxed" . Hate to say it but you will probably not wind up sick but dead from the vax. Oh I can hear the screeching already from all the covid Karens. You know who Dr Robert Malone is?? Watch a podcast or two with him. But beyond all of that. The CEO of America One, a large US life insurance provider, has come out and stated that deaths in the 18-64 year old range have jumped 40% from pre-covid times. Now isn't that interesting? Because in "reality" numbers do not lie. Politicians do. But not real numbers. And these are not Covid deaths. So where do you think these are coming from?? Think real hard.This is very disturbing and this is where all of the ranting and raving should be directed. You have all been had.
EXACTLY!
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cdnavater wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:00 pm Just goes to show you!
cdnavater wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:00 pm
ReserveTank wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:22 pm
7ECA wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:46 pm

Hardly. The Lend-Lease Act, and associated shipments via convoy are taught during history classes in high school when the Second World War is a significant topic of concern. The air and land route through Canada via the Alaska Highway as well as the Northwest Staging Route is covered as well.

The latter may be covered in somewhat more detail, being that it directly relates to Canada. But, the RCN also played a role in convoy escort duties to Murmansk.
Yes, the surface is glossed over, but the in-depth isn't taught, which is my principal complaint. Students are shown the "nice" side of the war. While true, it is at best trivia.
YYZSaabGuy wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:46 pm Nobody "forgot" to teach this stuff in school: I'm guessing you just didn't bother to show up the day World War II was on the agenda. You should also be aware that there's nothing in the least nefarious about this particular example of realpolitik: Hitler attacked the West, Hitler attacked Russia, ergo the West and Russia set aside their ideological differences temporarily and teamed up to defeat Hitler. It's really not that complicated.

The good news is that you can still take time off from posting idiocy on here and sign up for an on-line course in world history: https://www.coursera.org/courses?query=world%20history
Exactly the inner-city public school response that's expected. For midwits like you, WW2 started on Sep. 1, 1939 for no reason, and with no background. Treaty of Versailles, Weimar Germany, devaluation of currency, atrocities in Poland and Sudetenland. Did you learn about these crucial historical events at Hip-Hop Secondary?

And it is extremely complicated. You watch a lazy, prepackaged History Channel special and you think you know something? At least the poster above you knew about Lend-Lease (which should be common knowledge).
ergo the West and Russia set aside their ideological differences
This shows precisely that you have no idea what you're writing.
Set aside the Holodomor? AND Katyn? The West full well knew the Soviet's atrocities when they made the deal...it wasn't ideology holding them back. (Should prompt you to think about why they held back in the first place, also why they made indirect war with Lend-Lease). The other half of Lend-Lease is the Red Army rolling into Germany with American Studebakers pillaging women "8 to 80," usually in groups. Also, the ethics of supplying resources to firebomb all the children in Dresden when the Germans were already down.
The good news is that you can still take time off from posting idiocy on here and sign up for an on-line course in world history:
With 2 master's, I've done plenty of history. And you? Midwits like you are the reason we repeat the worst parts of history.
Just goes to show you!
You were making a point of something here?
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ReserveTank wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:22 pm Yes, the surface is glossed over, but the in-depth isn't taught, which is my principal complaint. Students are shown the "nice" side of the war. While true, it is at best trivia.

WW2 started on Sep. 1, 1939 for no reason, and with no background. Treaty of Versailles, Weimar Germany, devaluation of currency, atrocities in Poland and Sudetenland. Did you learn about these crucial historical events at Hip-Hop Secondary?
You fail to recognize that it's impossible to go into the sort of detail and cover the minutiae of the war and it's causes, in the standard school year. If that were to be the case, you'd have to focus on the Second World War, and only on the War for the entirety of the academic year - at the expense of all other areas of study covered in the curriculum. While I'd be one of the first people to applaud an effort to do deeper dives into various corners and aspects of history, it's hardly possible under the constraints of any academic model - and to a large degree even university courses aren't able to make a deep and focused study of something as vast as the Second World War; unless you are focussing on very specific topics within the broader context of the war...

As for the second contention, while not directed at me - but apparently still being a "midwit" (what ever the fruck that's supposed to be) you're absolutely wrong AGAIN. The origins of the war are covered, albeit at a more general level but there is most certainly talk of the 1938 Munich Agreement (remember Neville's pronouncement of "...peace in our time..."?), etc. I'm wondering what the hell you're referring to by atrocities in Poland and the Sudentenland, though - because unless you've ascribed to the Nazi Party line that those poor Germanic folks were being butchered by the Czechs/Poles and needed to be rescued, you'd know that's BS.

If you want to argue further about the failures of teaching the background to history in schools, I'd dare say the Second World War is hardly the place to start. Are you actually aware of the events that lead up the start of the First World War? And I don't mean simply rattling off "the alliance system" or "nationalism"...
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rookiepilot wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:46 pm Done. Finished. History.

You heard it here first…..give it 12 months.

Evidence growing the new variant is not only much milder, but will soon take over primary transmission.

Onward to bigger issues.
Thanks doctor lol
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ReserveTank wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:22 pm Exactly the inner-city public school response that's expected. For midwits like you, WW2 started on Sep. 1, 1939 for no reason, and with no background. Treaty of Versailles, Weimar Germany, devaluation of currency, atrocities in Poland and Sudetenland. Did you learn about these crucial historical events at Hip-Hop Secondary?

And it is extremely complicated. You watch a lazy, prepackaged History Channel special and you think you know something? At least the poster above you knew about Lend-Lease (which should be common knowledge).
ergo the West and Russia set aside their ideological differences
This shows precisely that you have no idea what you're writing.
Set aside the Holodomor? AND Katyn? The West full well knew the Soviet's atrocities when they made the deal...it wasn't ideology holding them back. (Should prompt you to think about why they held back in the first place, also why they made indirect war with Lend-Lease). The other half of Lend-Lease is the Red Army rolling into Germany with American Studebakers pillaging women "8 to 80," usually in groups. Also, the ethics of supplying resources to firebomb all the children in Dresden when the Germans were already down.
The good news is that you can still take time off from posting idiocy on here and sign up for an on-line course in world history:
With 2 master's, I've done plenty of history. And you? Midwits like you are the reason we repeat the worst parts of history.
Too bad neither of your “2 master’s” included instruction in basic English-language punctuation so that you understood the difference between plural and possessive forms...But I digress.

I’m genuinely confused as to what you are so upset about: the fact that the Western allies supported the Soviet regime at all (did your “plenty of history” include learning the phrase “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, which nicely sums up the Western allies’ mindset following the launch of Operation Barbarossa)? Or is this just another example of the "Western degeneracy" you've written about before? Hint: global politics are rarely about morality or how you feel about them, and trying to pretend otherwise is just naive.

The “indirect war” of which you’re so critical was probably the limit of support the Western allies could’ve provided at the time: remember, the U.K. was the sole surviving Western power still in the fight, as the U.S. wasn’t a combatant until after Hitler jumped in with a declaration of war following Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour in December 1941. What more, exactly, should have been done, given the pressure of ongoing German air attacks, multi-thousand-mile supply lines, and the risk that any armaments provided to Stalin would quite probably have been pointed back at the Allies if Russia was forced to surrender, a not inconsiderable risk in late 1941?

And what’s all this nonsense about being “held back”? Should Lend-Lease not have been implemented, to provide some level of support for Eastern Front operations and to divert German pressure in western Europe and North Africa? And if you grant that supporting the Russians was a pretty common-sense initiative, then what did you think the Russians would do with the material and arms provided by the Allies, other than fight off the German invasion and then in turn invade Germany when the time came?

Or are you just pissy because this stuff isn’t being taught to your satisfaction in various inner-city schools, and if so, how would you know?
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HEALTH AND SCIENCE
U.S. reports over 1 million new daily Covid cases as omicron surges
The U.S. has reported a record single-day number of daily Covid cases, with more than 1 million new infections.
A total of 1,082,549 new coronavirus cases were reported Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, as the highly infectious omicron variant continues to spread throughout the country and beyond.
The U.S. also has the highest seven-day average of daily new cases in any country tracked by Johns Hopkins.

Might be a wee bit early to say it is over , and in other news France has a new variant , not quite a variant of concern only twelve cases mostly from Cameroon . The next four to six weeks will be very interesting as it may have peaked by then , maybe .

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/04/us-coun ... cord-.html
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The only thing that will end this crisis.....is a bigger crisis. That’s how it’s always been done. So if you thought a world-wide plan/scamdemic was big, wait until you see what the powers that be have planed for you next. I’ll give you a hint....they always tell you what they are going to do....
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ReserveTank wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:37 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:00 pm Just goes to show you!
cdnavater wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:00 pm
ReserveTank wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:22 pm

Yes, the surface is glossed over, but the in-depth isn't taught, which is my principal complaint. Students are shown the "nice" side of the war. While true, it is at best trivia.



Exactly the inner-city public school response that's expected. For midwits like you, WW2 started on Sep. 1, 1939 for no reason, and with no background. Treaty of Versailles, Weimar Germany, devaluation of currency, atrocities in Poland and Sudetenland. Did you learn about these crucial historical events at Hip-Hop Secondary?

And it is extremely complicated. You watch a lazy, prepackaged History Channel special and you think you know something? At least the poster above you knew about Lend-Lease (which should be common knowledge).



This shows precisely that you have no idea what you're writing.
Set aside the Holodomor? AND Katyn? The West full well knew the Soviet's atrocities when they made the deal...it wasn't ideology holding them back. (Should prompt you to think about why they held back in the first place, also why they made indirect war with Lend-Lease). The other half of Lend-Lease is the Red Army rolling into Germany with American Studebakers pillaging women "8 to 80," usually in groups. Also, the ethics of supplying resources to firebomb all the children in Dresden when the Germans were already down.



With 2 master's, I've done plenty of history. And you? Midwits like you are the reason we repeat the worst parts of history.
Just goes to show you!
You were making a point of something here? Yes
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palebird wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:40 am Wow. What a load of hogwash. The official line "you are not going to get as sick if you are vaxxed" . Hate to say it but you will probably not wind up sick but dead from the vax. Oh I can hear the screeching already from all the covid Karens. You know who Dr Robert Malone is?? Watch a podcast or two with him. But beyond all of that. The CEO of America One, a large US life insurance provider, has come out and stated that deaths in the 18-64 year old range have jumped 40% from pre-covid times. Now isn't that interesting? Because in "reality" numbers do not lie. Politicians do. But not real numbers. And these are not Covid deaths. So where do you think these are coming from?? Think real hard.This is very disturbing and this is where all of the ranting and raving should be directed. You have all been had.
Did you even read or watch the entire commentary from Scott Davison (America One CEO)? The whole point of his presentation was that Covid deaths are UNDERstated in official numbers.

He went on to say all America One employees will have to vaccinated when they return to in office work.

Regarding Dr Malone. No one should take any scientist, researcher, etc. seriously if that person claims to be the sole inventor of anything. Science is based on building off the discoveries (and lack there of) of others. Just because the mRna vaccine that he "invented" killed all his test subjects, does not mean other scientists were unable to build off of his work and find where he went wrong. Hint: They did.
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PitchLink wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:26 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:46 pm Done. Finished. History.

You heard it here first…..give it 12 months.

Evidence growing the new variant is not only much milder, but will soon take over primary transmission.

Onward to bigger issues.
Thanks doctor lol
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"Did you even read or watch the entire commentary from Scott Davison (America One CEO)? The whole point of his presentation was that Covid deaths are UNDERstated in official numbers.

He went on to say all America One employees will have to vaccinated when they return to in office work.

Regarding Dr Malone. No one should take any scientist, researcher, etc. seriously if that person claims to be the sole inventor of anything. Science is based on building off the discoveries (and lack there of) of others. Just because the mRna vaccine that he "invented" killed all his test subjects, does not mean other scientists were unable to build off of his work and find where he went wrong. Hint: They did."

I ask you the same question. I do not care what the point of his presentation is/was. The point is/was the hard numbers (data) that they are presenting. That is significant.The numbers are out there and people are dying from all types of conditions that are unprecedented, not simply Covid. Dr. Malone has a stellar reputation and he is far from the only one who is highly critical of this nonsense. Go back to Fauci, CBC and Tam if you are that ignorant.
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rookiepilot wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:19 am LONG AC at 20 bucks. Putting down on what I write.
22.15. + 10%.

See you above 26…
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palebird wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:07 pm
Regarding Dr Malone.
Interesting article on an interesting guy that others might also enjoy reading:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... ic/619734/
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rookiepilot wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:22 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:19 am LONG AC at 20 bucks. Putting down on what I write.
22.15. + 10%.

See you above 26…

Suncor...up almost 5% just today. I love it when AC burns more fuel. It warms things up in Edmonton too. I wonder how much the next dividend hike will be. I'll take a 10% increase on the Suncor dividend over AC raising their dividend by a factor of one thousand.......as it will still equal zero. I've got taxes to pay now.
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FL320 wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:20 pm:D
Pretty much sums it up. :mrgreen:
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palebird wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:07 pm "Did you even read or watch the entire commentary from Scott Davison (America One CEO)? The whole point of his presentation was that Covid deaths are UNDERstated in official numbers.

He went on to say all America One employees will have to vaccinated when they return to in office work.

Regarding Dr Malone. No one should take any scientist, researcher, etc. seriously if that person claims to be the sole inventor of anything. Science is based on building off the discoveries (and lack there of) of others. Just because the mRna vaccine that he "invented" killed all his test subjects, does not mean other scientists were unable to build off of his work and find where he went wrong. Hint: They did."

I ask you the same question. I do not care what the point of his presentation is/was. The point is/was the hard numbers (data) that they are presenting. That is significant.The numbers are out there and people are dying from all types of conditions that are unprecedented, not simply Covid. Dr. Malone has a stellar reputation and he is far from the only one who is highly critical of this nonsense. Go back to Fauci, CBC and Tam if you are that ignorant.
There’s no need to get personal / emotional over this conversation. It usually means a persons argument is weak. So, back to the facts.

I try to read information from sources on both sides of every debate. I haven’t been able to find the data you speak of. The most recent cause of death statistics (US) is from 2019.

Where is the data for the additional deaths in the 18-65 range you are referencing?

Please post a link to an official source backing up your statement.
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