Should COVID boosters be mandatory for the aviation sector ?

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Should COVID boosters be mandatory for the aviation sector ?

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This is a hypothetical question only…

Could you foresee boosters being mandatory? Should boosters be mandatory? Would you take subsequent booster shots?

Curious to hear people’s thoughts on this…


Disclaimer 1: I’m not advocating for boosters
Disclaimer 2: can we stay out of discussing: Klaus Schwab, Soros or the “great reset?”

Request : there’s going to be VERY different opinions on this ( perhaps) . I’m hoping we can civilly agree to disagree without pooping on eachother and allow differences of opinion.

Thanks !
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Enough people are realizing the scam happening. They will not mandate boosters. To much conspiracy has already leaked.

50 percent over representation of hospitalization, main stream media is reporting this now, where for the past year healthcare workers have been saying this but being silenced previously by the media.

All the narratives are falling apart. They said we need to mandate vac to keep other safe, that has fallen apart. Covid is spreading rapidly among the vaccinated. Airlines are canceling flights because pilots sneeze. We don’t need booster, we need to wake up and stop being sheep. Get a booster if you want. It’s clear mandatory boosters make zero change in risk at the airlines.

Omicron is substantially less virulent. We have such a high positive rate of infection it’s time to accept natural immunity as part of our “vax passport”. Is it any surprise Ontario has decided to stop Covid testing… to many vaccinated people are getting Covid.

Why on earth anyone would vaccinate their children at this point is crazy to me. lots of doctors say the evidence doesn’t support it even with delta. With omicron makes even less sense to vaccinate your kids.

Airlines would have to pull a trick out of their ass to mandate boosters. Anyone with a brain should see how idiotic that would be. Time to treat Covid like the flu. Get a shot if you want it.

My bets on removing vaccines mandates is more likely than implementing a booster mandate.
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CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:31 pm My bets on removing vaccines mandates is more likely than implementing a booster mandate.
I'd take that action. How much you want to bet?
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CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:31 pm Enough people are realizing the scam happening. They will not mandate boosters. To much conspiracy has already leaked.

50 percent over representation of hospitalization, main stream media is reporting this now, where for the past year healthcare workers have been saying this but being silenced previously by the media.

All the narratives are falling apart. They said we need to mandate vac to keep other safe, that has fallen apart. Covid is spreading rapidly among the vaccinated. Airlines are canceling flights because pilots sneeze. We don’t need booster, we need to wake up and stop being sheep. Get a booster if you want. It’s clear mandatory boosters make zero change in risk at the airlines.

Omicron is substantially less virulent. We have such a high positive rate of infection it’s time to accept natural immunity as part of our “vax passport”. Is it any surprise Ontario has decided to stop Covid testing… to many vaccinated people are getting Covid.

Why on earth anyone would vaccinate their children at this point is crazy to me. lots of doctors say the evidence doesn’t support it even with delta. With omicron makes even less sense to vaccinate your kids.

Airlines would have to pull a trick out of their ass to mandate boosters. Anyone with a brain should see how idiotic that would be. Time to treat Covid like the flu. Get a shot if you want it.

My bets on removing vaccines mandates is more likely than implementing a booster mandate.
That being said....have you considered getting a vaccine shot?
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pelmet wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:42 pm That being said....have you considered getting a vaccine shot?
It has always been a consideration, admittedly there were times I thought it may have been a good idea. Since omicron has hit, and we see more about the vaccine data I just find it more troubling and less reason to get a vaccine.

Bingo, I have no money to wager 😂
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Unfortunately, I think there will be mandatory boosters. Some people are genuinely, unavoidably vulnerable to covid for reasons beyond their control. However, too many people have left the health of their own bodies vulnerable out of weakness of will. And now they're scared because they know they're weak. Vaccines and boosters are a quick, albeit temporary, fix. Furthermore, they come with a convenient but false moral high ground, that allows such a weak person to transfer their lack of personal responsibility onto others who do not make the same choices as them. Vaccines and boosters are temporary fix not only for the immunity of the weak, but also their consciences. Our society is dominated by fear. Fear of covid and fear of the discomfort of having to confront the repercussions of poor life choices. Boosters solve both problems. :roll:
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CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:31 pm Enough people are realizing the scam happening. They will not mandate boosters. To much conspiracy has already leaked.

50 percent over representation of hospitalization, main stream media is reporting this now, where for the past year healthcare workers have been saying this but being silenced previously by the media.

All the narratives are falling apart. They said we need to mandate vac to keep other safe, that has fallen apart. Covid is spreading rapidly among the vaccinated. Airlines are canceling flights because pilots sneeze. We don’t need booster, we need to wake up and stop being sheep. Get a booster if you want. It’s clear mandatory boosters make zero change in risk at the airlines.

Omicron is substantially less virulent. We have such a high positive rate of infection it’s time to accept natural immunity as part of our “vax passport”. Is it any surprise Ontario has decided to stop Covid testing… to many vaccinated people are getting Covid.

Why on earth anyone would vaccinate their children at this point is crazy to me. lots of doctors say the evidence doesn’t support it even with delta. With omicron makes even less sense to vaccinate your kids.

Airlines would have to pull a trick out of their ass to mandate boosters. Anyone with a brain should see how idiotic that would be. Time to treat Covid like the flu. Get a shot if you want it.

My bets on removing vaccines mandates is more likely than implementing a booster mandate.
It only took you 260 posts and thousands of words of noise to reveal that you are, in fact, a virulent anti-vaxxer. Cool.
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Nothing to see here folks, it’s all just a conspiracy, to out the nutbars so they can scoop them up. Or, it’s a numbers game and we are losing.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/england ... es-2679724

“The number of patients in hospital with the virus are also growing fast, exceeding 10,000 in England on Wednesday -- the highest figure since March“


To the original topic, my wife and I booked our booster as soon as we could, my mother-in-law had her booster with nil side effects. To believe governments around the globe have conspired to “scam” us is beyond comprehension, I’m assuming you need to be mentally unstable to even entertain this idea! Otherwise rational stable people see it for what it is, a new virus that’s mutating.
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:10 pmHowever, too many people have left the health of their own bodies vulnerable out of weakness of will. And now they're scared because they know they're weak.
It's definitely a weakness and a moral failing to have lived into your seventies, or eighties? Really?

What on earth are you talking about?
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photofly wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:41 pm It's definitely a weakness and a moral failing to have lived into your seventies, or eighties? Really?
Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:10 pm Some people are genuinely, unavoidably vulnerable to covid for reasons beyond their control.
I thought it would be trivially obvious that the elderly would fall into this category, along with those who have health issues beyond their control. There should absolutely be targeted policies and procedures in place to protect these people. But people who have otherwise left their health to chance or who have health issues as a result of their poor choices, should not get to dictate other people's personal health choices. Don't worry though, I'm sure you'll get your way and that will ultimately be the case, as that's the type of society we live in, in this country.
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:03 pm
photofly wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:41 pm It's definitely a weakness and a moral failing to have lived into your seventies, or eighties? Really?
Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:10 pm Some people are genuinely, unavoidably vulnerable to covid for reasons beyond their control.
I thought it would be trivially obvious that the elderly would fall into this category, along with those who have health issues beyond their control. There should absolutely be targeted policies and procedures in place to protect these people. But people who have otherwise left their health to chance or who have health issues as a result of their poor choices, should not get to dictate other people's personal health choices. Don't worry though, I'm sure you'll get your way and that will ultimately be the case, as that's the type of society we live in, in this country.
The policies and procedures we have in place are there precisely to protect the elderly and the vulnerable.
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photofly wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:12 pm The policies and procedures we have in place are there precisely to protect the elderly and the vulnerable.
Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:03 pm There should absolutely be targeted policies and procedures in place to protect these people.
The policies and procedures we have in place are not targeted in the least, and they haven't changed at all in the last two years. Telling a 20 year old unvaccinated couple that they can't go out to dinner does NOTHING to protect an octogenarian in a care home, but it surely prevents people from having a normal life, while they're young enough to enjoy it. With the knowledge we have after doing this for 2 years, we should be able to do much better, and be much more precise in our approach to dealing with this virus, as opposed to going back to the same old scorched earth policies that have us all hiding in our homes from the invisible enemy that, may I remind you, is of very little threat to the vast majority of us.
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:33 pm
The policies and procedures we have in place are not targeted in the least, and they haven't changed at all in the last two years. Telling a 20 year old unvaccinated couple that they can't go out to dinner does NOTHING to protect an octogenarian in a care home,
Of course it does.
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photofly wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:47 pm
Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:33 pm
The policies and procedures we have in place are not targeted in the least, and they haven't changed at all in the last two years. Telling a 20 year old unvaccinated couple that they can't go out to dinner does NOTHING to protect an octogenarian in a care home,
Of course it does.
Please, elaborate. A twenty year old unvaccinated couple goes out to dinner at a restaurant that seats 50. Statistically, they are the only unvaccinated ones in the establishment. Please connect the dots for me as to how this prevents your granny from getting sick in an old age home.
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:11 pm
photofly wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:47 pm
Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:33 pm
The policies and procedures we have in place are not targeted in the least, and they haven't changed at all in the last two years. Telling a 20 year old unvaccinated couple that they can't go out to dinner does NOTHING to protect an octogenarian in a care home,
Of course it does.
Please, elaborate. A twenty year old unvaccinated couple goes out to dinner at a restaurant that seats 50. Statistically, they are the only unvaccinated ones in the establishment. Please connect the dots for me as to how this prevents your granny from getting sick in an old age home.
Because their server in the restaurant, who was fully vaccinated, had COVID, being asymptomatic but infectious. One of the couple's lodgers works in the care home where your octogenarian lives, and contracted COVID from the person who ate out. And in the two days between her infection in the restaurant and starting to feel unwell, spread it to six people in the care home. Those six people infected by their care worker spread it to 14 other residents, of whom three died.

How can you not see how this works?
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Ok yes I see now. Very dangerous indeed in a highly specific set of circumstances in a world without targeted policies protecting the vulnerable and vaccines that are not effective. I didn't realize we were applying Orwellian logic here, but it makes sense now. Freedom is slavery. Carry on.

You forgot just one thing though. The server didn't serve them. They actually died of myocarditis from the vaccine. Can you not see how this works?
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:23 pm Ok yes I see now. Very dangerous indeed in a highly specific set of circumstances in a world without targeted policies protecting the vulnerable and vaccines that are not effective. I didn't realize we were applying Orwellian logic here, but it makes sense now. Freedom is slavery. Carry on.
Every single infection arises from a highly specific - no, even better - individual - set of circumstances. What you willfully refuse to see is that a sufficiently large number of opportunities for infection, each in individual circumstances, is what propagates a pandemic.
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And the only acceptable number of individual circumstances that lead to an infection, is zero. Yeah I get it now. We're setting goals that are incompatible with a normal life. Understood.
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:28 pm And the only acceptable number of individual circumstances that lead to an infection, is zero. Yeah I get it now. We're setting goals that are incompatible with a normal life. Understood.
Not allowing a young couple to go out for dinner is a trade-off against reducing the number of infections. Politicians decide where that balance lies, on the basis of medical advice. You're entitled to disagree that that balance has been correctly laid. You're not entitled to pretend that
Telling a 20 year old unvaccinated couple that they can't go out to dinner does NOTHING to protect an octogenarian in a care home
This pretence from you that it's "all or nothing" and if it's not everything, it can't be anything, is tedious.
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Why not? You're entitled to pretend that if people aren't compelled to be vaccinated that old people will most certainly die in spite of the fact that in reality, the probability is far closer to nothing bad happening at all. I'm just choosing to live in the most probable version of reality. Either way, it doesn't matter. You'll likely get your way. I'm fairly confident we'll all be getting many, many boosters.
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photofly wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:35 pm
Telling a 20 year old unvaccinated couple that they can't go out to dinner does NOTHING to protect an octogenarian in a care home
This pretence from you that it's "all or nothing" and if it's not everything, it can't be anything, is tedious.
You're correct. I should not have said "nothing." That was a poor choice of words. I'm sure mathematically speaking it does offer some level of protection, probably in the order of sub-thousandths of a percent. "Effectively nothing" would have been more accurate.
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:54 pm
photofly wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:35 pm
Telling a 20 year old unvaccinated couple that they can't go out to dinner does NOTHING to protect an octogenarian in a care home
This pretence from you that it's "all or nothing" and if it's not everything, it can't be anything, is tedious.
You're correct. I should not have said "nothing." That was a poor choice of words. I'm sure mathematically speaking it does offer some level of protection, probably in the order of sub-thousandths of a percent. "Effectively nothing" would have been more accurate.
If you want people to respond to your arguments, they can only respond to the words that you do use, not the words you should have used.

But even had you said "effectively nothing" you would still be plainly and clearly wrong.
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Prove it using data and not anecdotes. I'll wait.
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How do you think COVID 19 is spread? Faries? Do you think it could it just possibly might have something to do with people in badly venitlated closed rooms close together, without masks on, like, uh, in restaurants?

No?

How then?

Pixies?

Cosmic rays?

Too much sunlight?

How do you catch COVID? How?
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