Finally, a cure I can get behind
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Re: Finally, a cure I can get behind
The dude is calling the "cure" pee pee? Does he still call his mommy to tell her he went poo poo too? Gets tucked in at night with his feety pajamas? Perhaps he's a closet golden showers sort of guy and the story is days from breaking on his activities with hookers in hotel rooms?
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Something wrong with that? They’re terribly practical in winter.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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Do you care that your source is shit and is basically lying to us?
TD;DR: ivermectin doesn't work for covid. There was some early promise, but all the recent trials show that it is ineffective. Some people have a weird fetish for ivermectin and are posting made-up shit like the study above to make it look like it works.
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Oh, you mean like referring to a Nobel prize winning medicine as horse dewormer?
Have you considered not reading it? The cognitive dissonance seems to be breaking you.
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How does a Nobel prize for use against parasitic infections make it automatically relevant to Covid?Vaticinator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:21 am Oh, you mean like referring to a Nobel prize winning medicine as horse dewormer?
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It is horse dewormer.Vaticinator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:21 am
Oh, you mean like referring to a Nobel prize winning medicine as horse dewormer?
Reading what? I did read the study you posted, and I pointed out why it's dogshite. You haven't addressed that yet.
Have you considered not reading it? The cognitive dissonance seems to be breaking you.
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Well, not exactly.CpnCrunch wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:48 amIt is horse dewormer.Vaticinator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:21 am
Oh, you mean like referring to a Nobel prize winning medicine as horse dewormer?
That's from the Alberta Health paper that photofly posted.Consumption of veterinary-grade ivermectin formulations, which contain ingredients not used in human medicines,
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You pointed out that the observations were subject to various biases and not controlled enough. Fair enough. If you feel so strongly about it, you should write PubMed and ask them to remove it. Try to keep the F bombs to a minimum. Apparently there are more strictly controlled trials underway, according to the paper posted by photo. Maybe they will find something, maybe they won't. Either way, it doesn't change the fact that you can't truthfully refer to human grade Ivermectin as horse dewormer.
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That was before I read the paper. Then I realised it uses ivmeta.com, which isn't peer reviewed, and it misrepresents the data (showing 18% benefit to mortality for Together, whereas the actual study was discontinued because it was no benefit). So you're basically posting lies and misinformation. Recent studies show that there are more side effects from IVM, and no benefit.Vaticinator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:14 pm You pointed out that the observations were subject to various biases and not controlled enough. Fair enough.
ivmeta is a website. It's not peer reviewed and not on PubMed (which is for peer reviewed studies).If you feel so strongly about it, you should write PubMed and ask them to remove it.
If you come on an aviation forum spouting deliberate lies and misinformation, you're going to get some fucking f bombs.Try to keep the F bombs to a minimum.
No. There HAVE BEEN quite a lot of RCTs, and they have found that there is no benefit to IVM and quite a lot of side effects.Apparently there are more strictly controlled trials underway, according to the paper posted by photo. Maybe they will find something, maybe they won't. Either way, it doesn't change the fact that you can't truthfully refer to human grade Ivermectin as horse dewormer.
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So, you're not going to address the serious problems with the study. Here is what it says:
https://ivmmeta.com/#sd_buonfrate
"Together.. (DB RCT)
18%
0.82 [0.44-1.52]
84mg"
(18% imrprovement in mortality).
But here is what the trial actually says:
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809
"The largest and highest quality ivermectin study published so far is the Together trial at the McMaster University in Canada. It found no benefit for the drug when it comes to Covid."
Here is the info from the trial itself: https://www.togethertrial.com/trial-specifications
"Ivermectin...stopped for futility".
So, it's basically lying, and it's not peer reviewed, and it's not even quoting peer reviewed studies.
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Ok. If you agree that it's not just horse dewormer I'll agree that you have the latest and greatest info. Great job. Now go see an anger management therapist.
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Try not to FREAK OUT, but I think I've found my error. I originally found that article through PubMed, which linked to the full article I posted. I bookmarked that link for future reference. Now, searching for it on PubMed, it appears to have been retracted, while the link I was accessing does not indicate a retraction. Lesson learned: bookmark the PubMed starting point and follow the link from there.CpnCrunch wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:23 pmivmeta is a website. It's not peer reviewed and not on PubMed (which is for peer reviewed studies).Vaticinator wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:14 pm If you feel so strongly about it, you should write PubMed and ask them to remove it.