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Sounds like it was possibly one of those gross over-correction inputs. I have seen that in the sim. Sim partner puts in full right rudder and we go off the right side of the runway, then full left rudder and we cross back over and go off the left side of the runway, etc. Of course the computer setup of the sim allows this to continue, snow doesn't.......

C-GBGZ, a Cessna 172 registered to the Brantford Flying Club, was rented by a member who
planned to conduct several touch-and-go night circuits on runway 23 at the Brantford Airport
(CYFD), Ontario, and was the sole occupant of the aircraft. The runway was mostly bare, with
some scattered patches of compact snow and ice. Following the first landing, when the pilot
applied power to begin the takeoff roll, the aircraft began to skid to the right. The pilot corrected to
the left, and the aircraft veered to the left, across the runway, towards the snow at the runway
edge. The pilot reduced power before the aircraft entered the snow. The pilot was uninjured. The
aircraft sustained damage to the nosewheel and propeller. The ELT activated as a result of the
runway excursion.
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C-FOKR, a privately registered Piper PA-46-600TP, was on a visual flight rules flight from the
Region of Waterloo International Airport (CYKF), Ontario, to the Stratford Municipal Airport (CYSA),
Ontario, with the pilot as sole occupant. During the landing roll on runway 17, the pilot felt the
aircraft swerving and attempted a correction before deciding to reject the landing. After he added
power for the go-around, the right main wheel entered the snowbank beside the runway, causing
the aircraft to exit the runway surface into an area of undisturbed snow. The aircraft collided with
some airport signage before the nosewheel sheared off, the aircraft came to a stop upright in a
snow covered area beside the runway. The pilot exited the aircraft uninjured, the aircraft had been
damaged significantly. The propeller was destroyed, and there was damage to the wing, cowling,
and engine mounts. The ELT was activated during the runway excursion.
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C-FRDN, a privately registered PA-46-350P was conducting a flight from Charles B. Wheeler
Downtown Airport (KMKC) Kansas City, MO to James Armstrong Richardson Intl (CYWG)
Winnipeg, MB. The aircraft was cleared to land on runway 36 at CYWG. Runway 36 was bare and
dry, upon touchdown the aircraft unexpectedly and violently turned to the left and exited the
runway. The aircraft made contact with compacted snow and sustained damage to the propeller
and the nose gear assembly. There were no injures to the pilot or to the passengers. ARFF did
attend.
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C-GOWH, a Canadian Aviation College Textron (Cessna) 172M, was conducting flight training at
Pitt Meadows Airport (CYPK) BC, with an instructor and student pilot onboard. During landing, the
aircraft touched down and encountered some unexpected slush and ice. The aircraft braking was
ineffective and the aircraft departed the paved surface at the end of the runway. Once on the grass
the aircraft continued until it hit a drainage ditch which caused a prop strike, damage to the left
wing, and small dents in the right stabilizer. The ELT did not activate. There were no injuries.
The aircraft was towed the company hangar for a maintenance assessment. At the time of this
report, repairs had not yet begun.
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C-GAKW, a Cessna 172L operated by A.L.M. By plane inc. performed circuits (take-offs and
landings) on runway 33 at the aerodrome of St-Mathieu-de-Beloeil, QC (CSB3). At the time of
landing in crosswind conditions, the aircraft was blown to the right. By
Subsequently, the aircraft ended up on a grassy part of the runway strip before
end up in coarse snow. The nose wheel got stuck in the snow and the aircraft
rolled over, ending up on his back. The pilot, alone on board, was not injured. There
emergency locator transmitter (ELT) has activated.
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A reminder that if you ever find yourself having to tow a stuck aircraft through snow, mud, etc , NEVER tow by the nose wheel. Always tow by the main gear with straps wrapped as low as you can.

https://youtu.be/meP2MGgqLFs

Years ago I had colleagues that did something similar to a turboprop twin frozen to the ramp. These are expensive repairs.
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Bede wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:56 am A reminder that if you ever find yourself having to tow a stuck aircraft through snow, mud, etc , NEVER tow by the nose wheel. Always tow by the main gear with straps wrapped as low as you can.

https://youtu.be/meP2MGgqLFs

Years ago I had colleagues that did something similar to a turboprop twin frozen to the ramp. These are expensive repairs.
Thanks,

I got a C337 stuck in gravel once after some poor taxi decision making(it looked like a nice area).

The helpful owner of the airstrip was doing the same thing. Fortunately, I recognized the danger and intervened. This video made me glad I did 25 years later.

We ended up digging some small trenches with wood planks to put in front of the mains, some plywood panel under the props(careful as it can get sucked up) and I was able to get enough forward momentum to be able to keep moving forward without sucking up stones.

Lucky escape.
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C-GZON, an Air Spray (1967) Ltd. Aero Commander 690 was conducting a training flight, as flight
ASB055, out of Red Deer (CYQF), AB with 2 flight crew on board. The aircraft started take-off roll
from Runway 17. At approximately 60 knots the nosewheel began to shimmy and the aircraft
veered towards the left side of the runway. The flight crew aborted the take off and tried to keep
the aircraft on the centerline. The aircraft continued to the left and exited the runway. The aircraft
came to a stop in a drainage ditch. The nose gear and left main gear collapsed and both propellers
were damaged. The flight crew were not injured and egressed from the aircraft on their own
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Be safe during the upcoming firefighting training season. A lot of aircraft (and pilots) haven't moved in 6 months.
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Looks like poor decision-making on this one. 1500 foot runway in a 182 during heavy rain.....

C-FHIW, a privately registered Cessna 182G, was conducting a flight under visual flight rules from
Tofino/Long Beach Airport (CYAZ), BC, to Duncan Airport (CAM3), BC, with 1 pilot and 1
passenger on board. The aircraft landed on Runway 31, touching down at or near the threshold at
a speed of approximately 70 knots. Heavy rain and wet runway conditions were observed at the
time of touch-down. Upon landing, the pilot retracted flaps and applied brakes. The braking and the
nose wheel steering appeared to be ineffective which is consistent with hydroplaning. With
approximately 500 feet of runway remaining, the pilot attempted to steer the aircraft off the left side
of the runway with the application of full left rudder, with no result. The aircraft exited the end of the
runway surface on or near the centerline. The paved surface ends 75 feet after the runway
threshold marking. A rough embankment, which drops approximately 10 feet over a distance of
approximately 45 feet, begins approximately 15 feet after that. The airplane nosed over and came
to rest inverted at the bottom of the embankment. There was no post-crash fire, and no activation
of the aircraft emergency locator transmitter. The pilot and passenger were able to egress the
aircraft via the pilot's door. There were no injuries. The aircraft was substantially damaged.


From TSB
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From TSB.....

C-GGUH, a Can-West Corp Air Charters Ltd. Cessna 208B was conducting a charter flight from
Fox Lake Aerodrome (CEC3), AB, to High Level Airport (CYOJ), AB. The aircraft lined up for
takeoff on Runway 26, which is 3600 feet long and constructed of sand and gravel. During the
takeoff roll, the pilot observed the airspeed reach approximately 65 knots. The pilot assessed that it
was taking longer than usual for the aircraft to lift off and was concerned about climb performance
and the presence of trees approximately 2000 feet past the end of the runway. Due to these
concerns, the pilot elected to abort the takeoff by reducing power to flight idle then max reverse,
selecting the flaps up and applying maximum braking. During the abort, the aircraft overran the
runway onto the frozen, snow-covered ground. During the overrun, the aircraft crossed over a dirt
berm and then veered to the right before coming to rest approximately 165 feet from the end of
Runway 26. There were no injuries.
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